GoWII Tactics/Tips Thread

Have some sort of fixation on Ronald McDonald do you Soul?...Must be some sort of clown fetish amirite? When will you resume your run?

Nice work in this thread so far GMG. It's shaping up nicely and I'm available to help if you need anything.MistryMan

I'm ready to discuss tactics/tips, whenever. I've got a lot I need to add, but I didn't exactly leave myself much room. Post 1 is filled. Post 2 and 3 are nearly so. Post 4 Is filled. Post 5 is still spacious. Post 6 is about 5/8th filled.

~I guess I should have left 7 empty spots to work with..

---Where shall we begin...we could start by discussing what any of you guys do in CotT and/or discuss what I've written down thus far.

Great job on the thread by the way, GMG. I'm suprised how fast you did it. I'm far too lazy.

Man, I wish I could work in fast food, but they only take 16+.

Oh, and concerning your note on the 5th post, I believe you should make special parts about the hardest fights.

Great job on the thread by the way, GMG. I'm suprised how fast you did it. I'm far too lazy.

Man, I wish I could work in fast food, but they only take 16+.

Oh, and concerning your note on the 5th post, I believe you should make special parts about the hardest fights.

omerhe

I'm a bit surprised too..it took about 3 days even though I've had this thread fora month or so. It really sped things along for me to have a working scanner and most of my notes written already in Word.

Since we are discussing tough fights..care to nominate a list of some good ones?..I'll toss a few out:

-1st Translator Fight

-pre-2nd Translator Fight

-Endurance Run

I will resume my Titan Translator Battle ASAP! Meaning, I will resume when I get the first chance.Soulxxx

Good to hear.

[QUOTE="omerhe"]

Great job on the thread by the way, GMG. I'm suprised how fast you did it. I'm far too lazy.

Man, I wish I could work in fast food, but they only take 16+.

Oh, and concerning your note on the 5th post, I believe you should make special parts about the hardest fights.

the-creeper

I'm a bit surprised too..it took about 3 days even though I've had this thread fora month or so. It really sped things along for me to have a working scanner and most of my notes written already in Word.

Since we are discussing tough fights..care to nominate a list of some good ones?..I'll toss a few out:

-1st Translator Fight

-pre-2nd Translator Fight

-Endurance Run

Well, I don't remember what pre- Translator 2 battle is, but the other two should be covered. Maybe the lowlands endurance to?

[QUOTE="the-creeper"]

[QUOTE="omerhe"]

Great job on the thread by the way, GMG. I'm suprised how fast you did it. I'm far too lazy.

Man, I wish I could work in fast food, but they only take 16+.

Oh, and concerning your note on the 5th post, I believe you should make special parts about the hardest fights.

omerhe

I'm a bit surprised too..it took about 3 days even though I've had this thread fora month or so. It really sped things along for me to have a working scanner and most of my notes written already in Word.

Since we are discussing tough fights..care to nominate a list of some good ones?..I'll toss a few out:

-1st Translator Fight

-pre-2nd Translator Fight

-Endurance Run

Well, I don't remember what pre- Translator 2 battle is, but the other two should be covered. Maybe the lowlands endurance to?

The battle before Translator 2 is Cerberus Breeders/Fates Juggernauts

~Do you mean the Pre-Icarus fights?

I just want to share a small tip. I've read in various places where people are having problems with the cursed remains elevator. In my NURs I would just launch the skeleton into the spikes on the ceiling to dispose of them quickly, they are only launchable when they start laughing, so create distance and move in for the launch when ready. Weapon of choice was SoD for the quick launch - just dont follow them up there X_X.

Btw, the banner at the top is sweet, although it seems that it has pictures of all magics except Euryale's head.

I just want to share a small tip. I've read in various places where people are having problems with the cursed remains elevator. In my NURs I would just launch the skeleton into the spikes on the ceiling to dispose of them quickly, they are only launchable when they start laughing, so create distance and move in for the launch when ready. Weapon of choice was SoD for the quick launch - just dont follow them up there X_X.

Btw, the banner at the top is sweet, although it seems that it has pictures of all magics except Euryale's head.

MistryMan

I too did that at one time but I prefer to just crush them outright for some reason..perhaps during my next GK:TM:NUR I'll record that for video exampe. Maybe the fight with 4 Cyclops Brutes just before it aswell.(using the trick of making them jump off the cliff)

~I'll put Bow canceling in the 6th post and remove the extra stats for CotT. (leaving them for FAQs) Also, adding a bit on invincibility frames

NOTE: The banner also has some mistakes in names/spellings

-Typhoon's Bane

-Rage of Kronos

-Posiedon's Rage

I'll worry about asking for corrects from curlfro at a later time

[QUOTE="MistryMan"]

I just want to share a small tip. I've read in various places where people are having problems with the cursed remains elevator. In my NURs I would just launch the skeleton into the spikes on the ceiling to dispose of them quickly, they are only launchable when they start laughing, so create distance and move in for the launch when ready. Weapon of choice was SoD for the quick launch - just dont follow them up there X_X.

Btw, the banner at the top is sweet, although it seems that it has pictures of all magics except Euryale's head.

the-creeper

I too did that at one time but I prefer to just crush them outright for some reason..perhaps during my next GK:TM:NUR I'll record that for video exampe. Maybe the fight with 4 Cyclops Brutes just before it aswell.(using the trick of making them jump off the cliff)

~I'll put Bow canceling in the 6th post and remove the extra stats for CotT. (leaving them for FAQs) Also, adding a bit on invincibility frames

NOTE: The banner also has some mistakes in names/spellings

-Typhoon's Bane

-Rage of Kronos

-Posiedon's Rage

I'll worry about asking for corrects from curlfro at a later time

That would be the fault of the Official God of War II website, not mine. And yes, the head of Euryale wasn't included in the magic listing for some reason.

~ Oh, and thank you MistryMan. :)

Great Job creeper! Where did you get that from? GoW 2 official guide or something?

Anyway, my favorite combo in GoW 2 is Tartarus' Rage. Is this combo stronger than Spirit?

I know that Spirit is more powerful but is much slower that Tartarus' Rage. Which tactic is stronger? Roll back, combo without hitting anything and then hit with Spirit or use Tartarus' Rage repeatedly?

Great Job creeper! Where did you get that from? GoW 2 official guide or something?

Anyway, my favorite combo in GoW 2 is Tartarus' Rage. Is this combo stronger than Spirit?

I know that Spirit is more powerful but is much slower that Tartarus' Rage. Which tactic is stronger? Roll back, combo without hitting anything and then hit with Spirit or use Tartarus' Rage repeatedly?

Pablo_Heroin

Long story short, I used what little info the guide gave me to make these measurements in Arena of the Fates *controlled environment*

~Tartarus Rage is 5 damage, 5 damage then 10 damage. Spirit is 36 damage all at once. TR is a bit underpowered really. I'd rather the move be 10, 10, 30 for all the trouble of using it..without raw power it isn't worth anything to me

If given max blades I'd go for a square, triangle, triangle, triangle combo LONG before L1+triangle. If I'm going for a hit, it best be strong and gaurantee my safety...or at least get the job done in a hurry

EDIT for GREAT JUSTICE

After examining MistryMan's tactic I found that almost any time they weren't preparing to attack/attacking, you could launch them. Laughter was provoked by keeping your distance from them and any attempts they made to reach the gears were another wide opening to launch them. For the benefit of those who like visualAID(s) I madeTHIS video.

Now this is the sort of thing I get back as a reward for doing these threads..feedback other then praise..tactics/tips from other pros is always a treat. For if it cannot be expanded upon, it is almost always at its best already..this is one such tactic. A true marvel for NURs

I've got a question about weapons upgrades. What are the most important items to upgrade in the game, and how many levels are there to upgrade? Would I get pwned by later bosses if I don't have a certain weapon maxed out? I've got my blades of athena on level 3. I haven't upgraded my other items yet because I don't have enough red orbs. I'm on chapter 5 by the way. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I've got a question about weapons upgrades. What are the most important items to upgrade in the game, and how many levels are there to upgrade? Would I get pwned by later bosses if I don't have a certain weapon maxed out? I've got my blades of athena on level 3. I haven't upgraded my other items yet because I don't have enough red orbs. I'm on chapter 5 by the way. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

s84

That is a matter of opnion to be perfectly honest. I've been doing Spear of Destiny vids but that sort of asks for elite players only. The BoO isn't really something I like to endorse..the alternate weapon of choice is the Hammer for most newcomers as with some minor exploiting of it...the weapon is quite devastating. If you refer to the posts I've made above you can see the damage numbers along with the HP of enemies/bosses and even the percentile differences for difficulties.

Bosses won't be your biggest concern. Rather tough, non-boss fights will by your primary trouble. You'll understand in time.

~This is more of a sumbit/discuss a tactic/tip thread then an advice/help thread. If you have questions concerning the information I give I'd be happy to discuss them with you. If and when you have trouble, make your own thread to ask any/all questions you have throughout your time here or use the 'Help' thread

NOTE: First time players use the Blades, Titan runners learn to use the Hammer, those who are already masters learn to use everything else

thanks for the tips GMG they helped me out a lot in my god mode run, still not sure about doing titan mode yetcoolgamer6

Whenever you're ready, I'll assist you.

[QUOTE="coolgamer6"]thanks for the tips GMG they helped me out a lot in my god mode run, still not sure about doing titan mode yetthe-creeper

Whenever you're ready, I'll assist you.

Excellent. I will be fully doing an Athena:Titan Mode:MAX run with:

Primary - Spear of Destiny and Typhon's Bane

Secondary - Athena's Blades and Euryale's Head

Urn of Olympus - I'd love to use it like I normally would with Athena but I'm doing some testing with Typhon's Bane so...

I need help with the second encounter with the colossuscoolgamer6

In order of importance:

-Did you already read the information supplied in this thread concerning said fight?

-I like to know what a member has at the time of the fight *in your case I already know* and what they've been doing up until this point *asking for assistance*

-This thread is for submition/discussion of tactics/tips..technically speaking, assistance isn't part of its purpose

For the moment I'll let this be the grounds for discussing your Titan run. Read what I've said thus far and respond. If done soon enough I may be able to assist you before the time I decide to turn in as I've started to set a pattern for my sleep *incredibly odd for me*

~About 50 minutes more is what I can offer

[QUOTE="coolgamer6"]I need help with the second encounter with the colossusthe-creeper

In order of importance:

-Did you already read the information supplied in this thread concerning said fight?

-I like to know what a member has at the time of the fight *in your case I already know* and what they've been doing up until this point *asking for assistance*

-This thread is for submition/discussion of tactics/tips..technically speaking, assistance isn't part of its purpose

For the moment I'll let this be the grounds for discussing your Titan run. Read what I've said thus far and respond. If done soon enough I may be able to assist you before the time I decide to turn in as I've started to set a pattern for my sleep *incredibly odd for me*

~About 50 minutes more is what I can offer

[QUOTE="the-creeper"]

[QUOTE="coolgamer6"]I need help with the second encounter with the colossuscoolgamer6

In order of importance:

-Did you already read the information supplied in this thread concerning said fight?

-I like to know what a member has at the time of the fight *in your case I already know* and what they've been doing up until this point *asking for assistance*

-This thread is for submition/discussion of tactics/tips..technically speaking, assistance isn't part of its purpose

For the moment I'll let this be the grounds for discussing your Titan run. Read what I've said thus far and respond. If done soon enough I may be able to assist you before the time I decide to turn in as I've started to set a pattern for my sleep *incredibly odd for me*

~About 50 minutes more is what I can offer

That answers one of my two questions for you. The other being, 'What are you doing exactly in that fight?' I prefer to have that information before moving on. *step by step..detailed..that's what I like..though making it detailed to the point of being convulted is undesirable*

Right now you have:

MAX Blades

MAX PR *non-Urn*

~There isn't much to figure out on my part. I suppose it would help if I simply made a video demonstration that wasn't to riddled with tricks. I'd prefer to not have to make another video so soon. Only about 20 minutes left before I turn in. I need that info before we continue.

[QUOTE="coolgamer6"][QUOTE="the-creeper"]

[QUOTE="coolgamer6"]I need help with the second encounter with the colossusthe-creeper

In order of importance:

-Did you already read the information supplied in this thread concerning said fight?

-I like to know what a member has at the time of the fight *in your case I already know* and what they've been doing up until this point *asking for assistance*

-This thread is for submition/discussion of tactics/tips..technically speaking, assistance isn't part of its purpose

For the moment I'll let this be the grounds for discussing your Titan run. Read what I've said thus far and respond. If done soon enough I may be able to assist you before the time I decide to turn in as I've started to set a pattern for my sleep *incredibly odd for me*

~About 50 minutes more is what I can offer

That answers one of my two questions for you. The other being, 'What are you doing exactly in that fight?' I prefer to have that information before moving on. *step by step..detailed..that's what I like..though making it detailed to the point of being convulted is undesirable*

Right now you have:

MAX Blades

MAX PR *non-Urn*

~There isn't much to figure out on my part. I suppose it would help if I simply made a video demonstration that wasn't to riddled with tricks. I'd prefer to not have to make another video so soon. Only about 20 minutes left before I turn in. I need that info before we continue.

[QUOTE="the-creeper"][QUOTE="coolgamer6"][QUOTE="the-creeper"]

[QUOTE="coolgamer6"]I need help with the second encounter with the colossuscoolgamer6

In order of importance:

-Did you already read the information supplied in this thread concerning said fight?

-I like to know what a member has at the time of the fight *in your case I already know* and what they've been doing up until this point *asking for assistance*

-This thread is for submition/discussion of tactics/tips..technically speaking, assistance isn't part of its purpose

For the moment I'll let this be the grounds for discussing your Titan run. Read what I've said thus far and respond. If done soon enough I may be able to assist you before the time I decide to turn in as I've started to set a pattern for my sleep *incredibly odd for me*

~About 50 minutes more is what I can offer

That answers one of my two questions for you. The other being, 'What are you doing exactly in that fight?' I prefer to have that information before moving on. *step by step..detailed..that's what I like..though making it detailed to the point of being convulted is undesirable*

Right now you have:

MAX Blades

MAX PR *non-Urn*

~There isn't much to figure out on my part. I suppose it would help if I simply made a video demonstration that wasn't to riddled with tricks. I'd prefer to not have to make another video so soon. Only about 20 minutes left before I turn in. I need that info before we continue.

Two things:

1. What worked for you?

2. When you need help again, please supply the desired information so I can offer optimum assistance

[QUOTE="coolgamer6"][QUOTE="the-creeper"][QUOTE="coolgamer6"][QUOTE="the-creeper"]

[QUOTE="coolgamer6"]I need help with the second encounter with the colossusthe-creeper

In order of importance:

-Did you already read the information supplied in this thread concerning said fight?

-I like to know what a member has at the time of the fight *in your case I already know* and what they've been doing up until this point *asking for assistance*

-This thread is for submition/discussion of tactics/tips..technically speaking, assistance isn't part of its purpose

For the moment I'll let this be the grounds for discussing your Titan run. Read what I've said thus far and respond. If done soon enough I may be able to assist you before the time I decide to turn in as I've started to set a pattern for my sleep *incredibly odd for me*

~About 50 minutes more is what I can offer

That answers one of my two questions for you. The other being, 'What are you doing exactly in that fight?' I prefer to have that information before moving on. *step by step..detailed..that's what I like..though making it detailed to the point of being convulted is undesirable*

Right now you have:

MAX Blades

MAX PR *non-Urn*

~There isn't much to figure out on my part. I suppose it would help if I simply made a video demonstration that wasn't to riddled with tricks. I'd prefer to not have to make another video so soon. Only about 20 minutes left before I turn in. I need that info before we continue.

Two things:

1. What worked for you?

2. When you need help again, please supply the desired information so I can offer optimum assistance

Agreed.

Talking to oneslf is a sign of insanity isn't it addaminsain?

Yes.

I might try the translator fight using MotK and weapon switch cancelling. Can't go any worse than everything else I have tried.

The king of multiple posting returns. With a valid reason for doing so this time. (I think)A use for the ground version of Tartarus Rage.

Admittedly, it is in bonus play and in a skippable fight but there is a use for it. 2minutes 10 seconds into the fight is where I begin using it.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gVyN_n1gQ8E

sorry its not a hyperlink not sussed that out yet.

The king of multiple posting returns. With a valid reason for doing so this time. (I think)A use for the ground version of Tartarus Rage.

Admittedly, it is in bonus play and in a skippable fight but there is a use for it. 2minutes 10 seconds into the fight is where I begin using it.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gVyN_n1gQ8E

sorry its not a hyperlink not sussed that out yet.

addaminsain

Nice, but I didn't realize you could get invincibility frames from TB. That would have helped a lot on my TM:NUR+ and GK:TM:NUR.

[QUOTE="addaminsain"]

The king of multiple posting returns. With a valid reason for doing so this time. (I think)A use for the ground version of Tartarus Rage.

Admittedly, it is in bonus play and in a skippable fight but there is a use for it. 2minutes 10 seconds into the fight is where I begin using it.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gVyN_n1gQ8E

sorry its not a hyperlink not sussed that out yet.

Alucard_rules

Nice, but I didn't realize you could get invincibility frames from TB. That would have helped a lot on my TM:NUR+ and GK:TM:NUR.

In part 2 of the fight I trick through every one of his shots / fireballs, till I run out of magic.

GKTMNUR without bow tricking. You are a hero!

That's called Bow Canceling. 'Tricking' (like canceling) uses the draw animation..so they are technically one in the same.

So long as you use the 'draw' and aren't using the left analog to move or attack right away..the 'draw' offers invincibility briefly as does EH and CR. When using AQ and PR you are invulnerable throughout.

That's called Bow Canceling. 'Tricking' (like canceling) uses the draw animation..so they are technically one in the same.

So long as you use the 'draw' and aren't using the left analog to move or attack right away..the 'draw' offers invincibility briefly as does EH and CR. When using AQ and PR you are invulnerable throughout.

fightmastermax

I'll have to try that out once I'm done with DMC4, HL2;HL2Ep.1+2.(I've beaten DMC4, but I'm playing SoS mode, and trying to beat Bloody Palace[farthest I've gotten is like level 27 :( ])

I agree,

Neutral left analog = tricking. Draws then replaces bow.

Any direction on left analog = faster cancelling. The bow does not get put away it just disappears.

For more bow tricking fun and the video of the Titan Storm (GK:TM:MAX) method of taking out Thesus. The end stages need tidying it gets messy when I resort to the BoA.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U-g-IVWaUzM

(how do I insert hyperlinks? anyone?)

Is it o.k to keep plugging my vids here? Would another location be more suitable. No one seems to complain so I will presume so unless told other wise.

BoO Head Trick Theseus vid uploading today.

I feel so cheap advertising my vids. Not so cheap as to stop me doing it though.

000H :idea: OOOH

Since I don't have much use in this thread I'll give a quick explanation on hyperlinking.

You have to click new message to start with, you can't do it in quick reply. Highlight the thing you want, and click the button that looks like a chain link *there should be a broken one next to it*, then paste the link into the box and press OK/Apply *I forget*. That's about all there is to it.

More shameless prostituting of my wares.

Theseus, Bonus Play. Blade of Olympus. Cliched, I know, thats why I didn't use Divine Retribution or the bow to aim. Would have used Divine Absolution for a total lulzfest but that move just sucks so many kinds of ass that I can't find a use for it

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5dDtNeH6f6k

No real merit to it just a bit of tricking through attacks, yes I do bear a grudge against Theseus but that is it for now. Unless anyone can think of other ways to reap him. Comments welcome.

0000H :idea: OOOOh

Alternate tactics (and Altering Slash) use for bous play in the BK fight

parts 1+2 with short description http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CHl__Gc31Sc

parts 3+4 'trick'tastic mate, I might try it with a level 1 hammer one day, just to see. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MzC2opPtty

let me know what you think folks.

cyclops says oooh :idea:

Have been getting some interesting results with the use of Charged WB against the BK on his horsey phase.

The number of hits scored with each shot seems to vary according to the proximity when the shot is fired.

Hit counts with each shot have ranged between 86 and 312.

Knowing that he has 180HP it would appear that each shot is registering 4 times more hits than it is doing in HP damage, best guess is that it is also registering hits on the swarm of souls around him leading to a falsely high count.

More interesting than this (not difficult I know) is the fact I managed to unhorse him with just THREE Charge WB.

According to previous thinking this should have only done 75HP (or 72 can't remember if it was thought to do 24 or25) damage but did at least 2.4 times that amount.

The three shots scored 238, 298 and 244 hits respectively for a total of 780 hits for 75MP spent.

to remove all 180 of the BK's HP with 3 shots suggests they were averaging 60HP each. If this is true for all fights (here's hoping) then the Charged Wind Blast is a spicy meatball indeed

This all leads me to think that the amount of damage that CWB does varies according to distance, a bit like a shotgun really. Will do more testing. Perhaps on Euryale, where if the same hold true I should be able to destroy her with three point blank CWB per pillar.

Sorry if I went to press early on this before knowing ALL the facts but its my first discovery and I was excited about it.

Sad, I know.

Have been getting some interesting results with the use of Charged WB against the BK on his horsey phase.

The number of hits scored with each shot seems to vary according to the proximity when the shot is fired.

Hit counts with each shot have ranged between 86 and 312.

Knowing that he has 180HP it would appear that each shot is registering 4 times more hits than it is doing in HP damage, best guess is that it is also registering hits on the swarm of souls around him leading to a falsely high count.

More interesting than this (not difficult I know) is the fact I managed to unhorse him with just THREE Charge WB.

According to previous thinking this should have only done 75HP (or 72 can't remember if it was thought to do 24 or25) damage but did at least 2.4 times that amount.

The three shots scored 238, 298 and 244 hits respectively for a total of 780 hits for 75MP spent.

to remove all 180 of the BK's HP with 3 shots suggests they were averaging 60HP each. If this is true for all fights (here's hoping) then the Charged Wind Blast is a spicy meatball indeed

This all leads me to think that the amount of damage that CWB does varies according to distance, a bit like a shotgun really. Will do more testing. Perhaps on Euryale, where if the same hold true I should be able to destroy her with three point blank CWB per pillar.

Sorry if I went to press early on this before knowing ALL the facts but its my first discovery and I was excited about it.

Sad, I know.

addaminsain

I'll be dropping by that fight myself quite soon. Guess it is time for a little testing of WB. I trust you know where to find HP values for bosses and their stages...or is this not accurate?

~Onward

I'll be dropping by that fight myself quite soon. Guess it is time for a little testing of WB. I trust you know where to find HP values for bosses and their stages...or is this not accurate?

~Onward

No no, those rough approximations are fine by me. :) They haven't let me down so far.

I had No joy with Euryale on the pillars,