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#101 MrCycleCancel
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Well many a learned scholar has said that a problem shared is a problem for two people. Or something similar.

Is it best to remain silent and have the world believe you to be a fool or to vocalise your thoughts and remove all doubt?

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#102 Mr-Serpent
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A rhetorical question to be sure, but I somewhat lean towards the former answer. Why, you may ask?

Who is the more foolish, the one who stays quiet amongst others, or the one who assumes such a man is a fool without contact?

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#103 Alucard_rules
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Both, for the world is void of any kind of being other than fools with the passing of the great George Carlin.
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#104 MrCycleCancel
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Darn it chaps, If only I could think of some viable "tactips" to contribute to this fine thread
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#105 Kuro-sama
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Is there any source that tells us how much damage enemies deal to Kratos? Or is that something that requires testing? Since I don't have anything else to do in GoW at the moment I could test/record some of this in AotF.
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#106 MrCycleCancel
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I do not recall seeing such a thing
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#107 MrStarkiller
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I never got around to that sort of painstaking testing. If I don't do it, it isn't going to get done. At all. GoW1, GoWII and CoO taught me that much.
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#108 Kuro-sama
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On "Spartan" it seems some of the enemies don't do enough damage to accurately test. I would have to test it on Titan if I were going to do it at all, multipliers could be added from there. Unfortunately I return to school later this evening, so I don't think I'll be able to get very far.
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#109 MrCycleCancel
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Do we really need to know how much damage each attack does to us?

Wouldn't a better plan be to not get hit?

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#110 optiow
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Do we really need to know how much damage each attack does to us?

Wouldn't a better plan be to not get hit?

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well Mr CC does have a point there.

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#111 Kuro-sama
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That's true, but it is good to be thorough, is it not? Regardless I am sadly no longer with my PS2. Next time I have access to it I will have a new copy of GoWII, when I may test this and I will CERTAINLY begin my TMNUR.
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#112 MrStarkiller
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optiow: He does but it doesn't apply well enough for it to matter.

Gent: Not really. We technically didn't need to know how strong everything was but it certainly helped to know...though that case is just slightly different.

It's less about warning how much a player REALLY wants to avoid one attack while mocking another...and more just TO KNOW in of itself. Get it?

Kuro: I...don't think you know how to either. I have the right tools as is and experience in related fields. It's hard to explain how I'd even go about this as I haven't thought it through..but I could whip up ideas quickly enough should I decide to do it. Some attacks would be harder to measure then others...

Do you even have the GoW1, GoWII or CoO guides?

It should be NORMAL first...I had to make an exception for GoW1 because I needed attacks to deal 1 damage but because I had the guide to reverse the value to 'normal' it wasn't a big deal...though testing got ugly fast as I found just how 'odd' the values really were....not nearly as neat as with GoWII to say the least about that experience..

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#113 Kuro-sama
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You mean the guide that the pictures in Tactics/Tips are from?

 

I have GoWII, but not GoW1 or CoO.  

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#114 MrStarkiller
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The very same

~GoWII would be the easiest of the 3 to test for sure.

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#115 Kuro-sama
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CoO follows with the first GoW as far as "arbitrary" numbers are concerned?
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#116 MrStarkiller
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Something like that.
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#117 optiow
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CoO follows with the first GoW as far as "arbitrary" numbers are concerned?Kuro-sama

I need to play CoO, see what it is like.

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#118 MrCycleCancel
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Good. Trust me.

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#119 Kuro-sama
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Perhaps for my birthday I should ask for the "Kratos PSP" that comes with the game.
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#120 optiow
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Good. Trust me.

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So I shall get it then, altough I heard it was a tad short.

Perhaps for my birthday I should ask for the "Kratos PSP" that comes with the game.Kuro-sama

Kratos PsP?

sad, but cool!

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#121 optiow
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Yes I have a question (yes another one...groan) I do not see the benifits of legion of the souls, it seems to do only minimal damage when I use it, any tips on getting maximum efficency from it?
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#122 MrStarkiller
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I could get into all that but I've forgotten where the 'Soul' focused run coverage was done. I'd have to find it before giving this question a proper go.

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#123 Mr-Lucifer
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To save MrSK some time, I'll say this:

You are getting maximum efficieny. That's it, they suck, worthless, don't bother with them.

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#124 MrCycleCancel
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Thirded. Legion of Souls sucks so hard that it blows.

Go figure.

MAX BH gives MASSIVE DAMAGE. One shot killing of grunts. Forget the specials, MotK is usable/spammable

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#125 MrStarkiller
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Flick are for:

-Cheap but slow tactics abusing sweet spots and the like (1/3rd a point of damage per hit *not even qualified as 'chip')

-padding, sustaining, etc. a combo with BH

-creating an opening *stun*, lock or even juggle *downed foes*.

NOTE: "juggles" being one thing it does fairly well if you care to use them with the BH. Bow Tricking/Canceling basically replaces this approach before players ever realize such an alternative exists for any particular foe

-interupting lesser attacks and baiting attacks/reactions

Legion are for:

-The same but at 1/5th a point of damage per hit with 3 at once

-Bounce/liift properties *though they don't stay out without the BH so the usefulness of this drops signficantly*

NOTE: Both look marginaly less crap in GK Titan conditions due to the absurd weakness of other attacks versus what they would usually be able to do.

NOTE2: Neither are effected by difficulty settings

Sadly they both have plenty of downsides:

-Short life span/reach, few hits, little power, etc.

-No effect on statues or even some living targets like bosses

-Disappear when the BH isn't equipped/out

-Relatively few targets are tied up well by either while taking damage

NOTE: I feel that as they are, it wouldn't be so horrible if flick and legion could hit all proper targets while staying virtually the same in other respect..if only the power were increased to flick being 1 damage per hit and Legion was at least 1/2 a point of damage per hit.

Gent: There's one obviously good/spammable special per sub.

Lucifer: A kind gesture.

~All that just off the top of my head. I have no idea where that 'soul focus' run was covered.

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#126 MrCycleCancel
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Summary. Souls Suck.

Shang Tsung anyone?

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#127 Mr-Lucifer
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No thanks, I'll pass.
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#128 MrCycleCancel
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Meh.

Too young.

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#129 MrStarkiller
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Shang Tsung was hilarious. Shao Kahn was better.

~Tactics/Tips?

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#130 Alucard_rules
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Shang Tsung was awesome in MK3.
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#131 MrStarkiller
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Indeed. However, he was no Shao Khan.

PROOF

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#132 Kuro-sama
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I've never really liked the MK series. They didn't appeal to me nearly as much as other fighting games.
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#133 Alucard_rules
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Indeed. However, he was no Shao Khan.

PROOF

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MrSK:Duh, he was a boss. Besides, the guy didn't really use Shang Tsung's fireballs, only once, and that was a single. I got really good at all of Shang Tsung's fireball techniques. Kuro:I haven't really played an MK game since 3, and the fighting games I've bought since then have been few, I'm not into fighting games in general, but MK always had that nice, brutal feel to it, and was complicated, but not quite as much so as Virtua Fighter, some of the combos in VF4 were insanely hard to do. I tried to master the ninja guy, but there were one or two that still eluded me I think, but some of the big combos for the other guys were just insane.
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#134 optiow
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Hmm, so the souls are ustless then.

Thanks, that question had been pestering me for a while now.

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#135 MrStarkiller
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Kuro: "It's OFFICIAL. You suck."

Alucard: "Don't make me laugh." "You will NEVER win."

optiow: "You will die Mortal!"

~"HAHAHAHAHA! I WIN"

NOTE: "FLAWLESS VICTORY"

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#136 optiow
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O-kay...Mr SK, are you feeling okay?
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#137 MrCycleCancel
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dOUBLE FLAWLESS
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#138 MrStarkiller
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Gent: "FINISH HIM!"

optiow: "That..was PATHETIC!"

~"You're still trying to win?" "Excllent"

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#139 Killzone333
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Just testing something...

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#140 MrStarkiller
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Providing it's relevant to what this thread entails...go on...

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#141 Killzone333
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It's not.

Darn, it did not work. Can you ask your buddy addam something for me?

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#142 MrStarkiller
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I'd expected as much.

Pity that.

He's surely listening. Why not say it here for all to see? Is it 'intensely private'? How sweet.

~You will learn..

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#143 Killzone333
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No it's not private.

After he comments, he has little 'statements' at the bottom of each of his comments. For example, "Also known as the Gent". How do you put those comments?

Can you seriously answer the question? Or will you make some stupid remark like usual?

And by the way, I do have a private question.

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#144 MrStarkiller
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Oh you...

A private and public question. You said there was just one and that it wasn't public. Yet now you have a private one. Are you being honest I wonder..

It's a signature. Edit your preferences. Notice I have one too...except it's not a cutesy message. He's the desired remark though, "LEARN2INTERNETS".

~Care to share boy-o?

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#145 Killzone333
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I don't feel comfortable asking the private one hear.
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#146 Kuro-sama
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I don't feel comfortable asking the private one hear.Killzone333

 

*here

 

I have a sig too. You can just go to your profile and change it in your preferences.  

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#147 MrStarkiller
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KZ333: Then what's your gameplan boy-o? You don't exactly have any of his contact info. You're not part of alt.TUGOWU.

~Consider your actions wisely..

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#148 Killzone333
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(*chin scratch while frowning*)