Riningan's progress

Already beaten the God NUR+ Centaur Sacrifice then have you?

~If you haven't read it already, I suggest you lookover my God PAIN coverage and FiveGlory's latest video series (perhaps the other as well since it IS a God NUR+) *this one being a God PAIN*

FiveGlory: There's a tad more to their handling then that but that's a solid base to build off of.

Riningan: You should visit alt.TUGOWU and read over a bunch of the runs I did in GoW1. I address these things in detail. Also refer to FiveGlory's videos.

It's not just you. There's more to success with getting them airborne then was already noted here. Hades Minotaurs are the FAR easier version of a Tormentor. IF you don't feel like looking over ALL of the run coverages I give for PAIN variants, I could eventually look through for relevant coverage and post copypasta. You would benefit more if you read and understood all I shared however.

For the whole fight? Very cheap but very effective. Progress is progress.

~Wouldn't the Satyrs have been better addressed with Punt rape?

You'll want either to get good with it or using FiveGlory's chest exploit (11 Hades Satyr) in conjunction with proper Blades or non-Punt Artemis handling *refer to other runs I've covered* for a satyr. Grab whoring would be an option for the latter but seriously....that can get trying.

~You'll get it with practice. It won't even likely take you that long to get a handle on it, Spike and Homerun

What about it do you have trouble with? Landing the bounce? Aiming the launch?

Refer to "3lonn" on YouTube. *FiveGlory* His coverage of 11 Hades Satyrs in a God PAIN run are what concern you. Check out the other videos as well.

Homerun technique practice..sounds fun. You're very close to wrapping this run up.

~I'll probably have to ask various users to review their 'listing' in the Specialty Run thread concerning what they have done since the last update >___>

Well time for an update. I have gotten to the save point before the fight with Ares. The only part I had any trouble with was the conveyor belt room until I found a sweet spot at the exit of the room-the first step of the doorway which won't activate the flamethrowers and keeps me from moving on the conveyors-after killing all the archers with grabs, so I only had to deal with the harpies and as soon as they dive bombed me, I rolled forward to escape the attack and would grab them whenever I had the chance. The only other place I had trouble with was the 11 satyrs fight because the last hit of punt would sometimes send them in inexplicable trajectories. Next is Ares1 to complete this run, I forsee no problems for this fight.

BTW: I just bought a camera and was wondering how I could record gameplay footage? I mean like addam's vids.

(Recording) Couldn't tell you.

(Conveyor) You've seen/heard other such strategies have you not?

(Satyrs) Takes practice and a bit of care to avoid undesirable outcomes such as a stuck Satyr.

(Ares1) Indeed.

Sounds good. Have you learned how to trick in GoW1 yet Riningan? Sounds like you got a RAW deal with Ares fireballs.

Accidental activation of the glitch? Were you using petrification? Or perhaps a clone grabbed you as you grabbed the family..

~What's next?

I don't know how to trick in GoW1 but I was able to trick twice during Ares1 but I don't know how I did it- I was trying to use PR to trick through his HAMMERTIME but since I have a controller with overly sensitive direction buttons that causes me to sometimes select a different magic than the one I want, anyways I ended up selecting ZF twice in a row and going through his attack unscathed. As for the family moving glitch I grabbed the family at the same time as the clone grabbed me.

What's next? Hmm, well when I get GoW2 back from a friend that I let borrow it, I'll probably do a TMNUR.

(Clones) Version 1 then

(Tricking) Would you like to know how? It's not hard.

(Next) GoWII Titan NUR? Why not a NUR+?

Tricking: yes I would like to know how

Why a NUR instead of a NUR+? Because I don't think I could do a NUR+ on this game. It was easier in the last game because most enemies could be infinite grabbed, air grabbed, or OH'ed to death without worrying about taking damage.

You can handle it.

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The 'trick' is in the "unsheathing" (sword summon) animation for Artemis (which lasts a bit longer than TB/EH or possibly even CR's window).

v1 - Switch to Artemis. You cannout switch back to the Blades whilst airborne just by pressing L1+R1 so if you're working with the Blade and want to use v1, too bad.

Ex1: (starting with Blades) Attack/effect is about to connect, L1+R1 to let it slide through you as the Blade is pulled out. If you're satisfied you can switch back (sheathing does NOT trick) or just press the attack as you please.

Ex2: (starting with Artemis) L1+R1, L1+R1...not terribly hard to get

v2 - Use a spell, grab, etc. with Artemis out for a forced 'sheath' that auto-unsheathes afterwards. Since you won't want to worry about spending MP you can just draw Zf (fastest) or MG...beware the delay of waiting out the 'draw' before the 'unsheathing' occurs..you'll have to get used to this. Obviously this way allows air tricking but at the cost of MP.

If you didn't know, rapid tricking (Ex: L1+R1 repeatedly) fools AI of early all foes into forgetting where you are/ceasing attacks. (GoW1)

I think I'll do a normal NUR first and if I feel that I can do it, a NUR+ afterwards.

So that's how you do tricking in this game. I already knew about the rapid weapon switching causing every enemy except archers and bosses to quit attacking.

...So be it.

Rapid tricking has more exceptions than that...but you'll do fine believing that. It's a useful trick to toy with for tactical approaches.

Indeed. The 'rapid trick' is just tricking...done rapidly..with the purpose no longer being the tricking itself..but the AI glitch. The 'window' during this trick is possibly longer than what we get even with CR and it's free...it takes a little getting used to v2's delay however. It certainly helps even if you're a Blades player...when you use it to negate the initial HAMMERTIME strike (guard break)...then you can just evade/block/parry/trick the next one. I love it. There aren't a lot of thigs that foil it in GoW1.

Sorry for not posting in a while-had computer problems. Anyways time for an update. The BK is defeated, here's my tactics for the fight:

Stage 1: I dodged his initial charge and then quick rolled to the front of him where he can only do hammer swings. I blocked his swings while getting in hits between his swings.

Stage 2: I don't need to go over this one.

Stage 3: This part gave me the most trouble because it's tedious and I have a short attention span. Basically I just tricked through each of his swings followed by square, triangle.

Stage 4: By this point I was getting impatient so I went ape**** with RotT on him(I had full health so I could afford to just rage through.

Currently I am at the temple of Eyurale just before I face the cyclopi and their riders.

All very standard.

~Progress is a good thing. Please continue.

TM1 isn't too bad. I don't expect that you should have a lot of trouble.

Sorry guys for not posting in a while, I got sidetrack because I had bought DMC3 Special Edition and just beat it yesterday. I'll have some progress to report by Tuesday.rininganboy

DMC3 SE, this late? Damn. How was the game? DMD will be quite the thrill.

~ Would you mind if I posted here to provide help should you need it?

Agreed, especially since he is fixed, and while harpies being there would be nice for alt.OH, without the Spear o' Destiny it is a little more trouble nabbing them anyway. Just bait the pound, build up Might of Hercules, retreat, rinse, lather, repeat.Alucard_rules

TM1 does not have harpies in the fight. TM2 does. Also, Spirit of Hercules is what you meant I hope. Tsk tsk.

'You're out of touch, I'm out of time'

- Laters dudes.

[QUOTE="rininganboy"]Sorry guys for not posting in a while, I got sidetrack because I had bought DMC3 Special Edition and just beat it yesterday. I'll have some progress to report by Tuesday.Demonic_Phoenix

DMC3 SE, this late? Damn. How was the game? DMD will be quite the thrill.

~ Would you mind if I posted here to provide help should you need it?

Agreed, especially since he is fixed, and while harpies being there would be nice for alt.OH, without the Spear o' Destiny it is a little more trouble nabbing them anyway. Just bait the pound, build up Might of Hercules, retreat, rinse, lather, repeat.Alucard_rules

TM1 does not have harpies in the fight. TM2 does. Also, Spirit of Hercules is what you meant I hope. Tsk tsk.

'You're out of touch, I'm out of time'

- Laters dudes.

I probably thought you were talking about TM2. And yes, I meant Spirit. It's been a while since I've played, sue me.Alucard_rules

I'd rather just laugh at you.

How is inFamous going? Or are you playing another game now?

(Atlas Lift) Noted.

(PS3) I have one of my own at this point. I'll keep the PS2 for now though. Still have need of it.

(Price) Not my area of expertise.