[QUOTE="mja2k3"]QUOTE]
Sabu saved that match. :|
mrgab
Sabu was there just to make them lame fans happy.
ECW fans are not lame they made the show halfway enjoyable.ECW Discussions Thread - August 1, 2006
[QUOTE="mja2k3"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]One waste of Batista with that.
Two, same old same old boring stuff done by sabu. So predictable.
mrgab
Sabu saved that match. :|
match was fine, a bit slowly done, and a waste of Bastista. Sabu was there just to make them lame fans happy.
The match sucked. :| And Batista isn't that good anyway, why would you put to big hosses in the main event at the Hammerstein Ballroom of all places.This CM Punk guy doesn't look like anything special. I see people acting like he is already some sort of legend, and he only does a few moves in this match. The main event was decent, but too bad the nerds at the Hammerstein Ballroom will think anyone over 6'0 and 200 lbs. sucks.Rage11
The Main-Event sucked..really badly.
And if you've watched CM Punk in ROH (especially CM Punk vs Joe matches) you would see why everybody thinks hes amazing.
This CM Punk guy doesn't look like anything special. I see people acting like he is already some sort of legend, and he only does a few moves in this match. The main event was decent, but too bad the nerds at the Hammerstein Ballroom will think anyone over 6'0 and 200 lbs. sucks.Rage11
Amazing that people who've never seen ROH are judging CM Punk already. Amazing.
Oh, and it's not that they think that anyone big sucks. It's just that Big Show & Batista suck, and they are the most non-ECW you can get.
This CM Punk guy doesn't look like anything special. I see people acting like he is already some sort of legend, and he only does a few moves in this match. The main event was decent, but too bad the nerds at the Hammerstein Ballroom will think anyone over 6'0 and 200 lbs. sucks.Rage11Well when we're talking about guys who really do suck then it's okay to boo. And as for Punk how can you judge a guy on his first match. You must not have seen his matches and promos from ROH then.
[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]One waste of Batista with that.
Two, same old same old boring stuff done by sabu. So predictable.
mja2k3
Sabu saved that match. :|
match was fine, a bit slowly done, and a waste of Bastista. Sabu was there just to make them lame fans happy.
The match sucked. :| And Batista isn't that good anyway, why would you put to big hosses in the main event at the Hammerstein Ballroom of all places.It should had been better, was too slow thanks to the Big Slow. Fans stupid chants and actions made it worse, then the predictable arrival and same actions in the beatdown didnt help it at all.
This CM Punk guy doesn't look like anything special. I see people acting like he is already some sort of legend, and he only does a few moves in this match. The main event was decent, but too bad the nerds at the Hammerstein Ballroom will think anyone over 6'0 and 200 lbs. sucks.Rage11
well it looks as if you think CM punk has just spawned out of the back of the wrestling industry's ass. are you somewhat, even CLOSELY familiar with his work in ROH? didnt think so..punk was great out there, what can i say? the fans paid to see him in all of his glory, and thats exactly what we got. none of that toned down type of crap that WWE usually does to their debuting wrestlers, we got to whitness some of the same edge that punk is famous for. to see the support for him at the end was a moment ill never forget. main event sucked, but i loved their "change the channel" chant :lol: and surprisingly the opening match was really well done, the spots that dreamer took were realistic enough to make me smile. im kinda glad that they gave angel such a short match, i dont think he could have pulled anything good out of it. he'll be back, dont worry. overall, a great episode of ECW. some ups, some downs, but very nice at the end of the day.
[QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]One waste of Batista with that.
Two, same old same old boring stuff done by sabu. So predictable.
mrgab
Sabu saved that match. :|
match was fine, a bit slowly done, and a waste of Bastista. Sabu was there just to make them lame fans happy.
The match sucked. :| And Batista isn't that good anyway, why would you put to big hosses in the main event at the Hammerstein Ballroom of all places.It should had been better, was too slow thanks to the Big Slow. Fans stupid chants and actions made it worse, then the predictable arrival and same actions in the beatdown didnt help it at all.
wow the only thing that made the match bearable was the fans....
The fans chants make ECW! It is a definte need of change every once in a while to hear fans go against what the WWE wants. That is partly way ONS rocked.
CM Punk's anaconda vice is cool. I can't believe you guys judge him so quickly. he did knee the **** of Justin Credible
[QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]One waste of Batista with that.
Two, same old same old boring stuff done by sabu. So predictable.
mrgab
Sabu saved that match. :|
match was fine, a bit slowly done, and a waste of Bastista. Sabu was there just to make them lame fans happy.
The match sucked. :| And Batista isn't that good anyway, why would you put to big hosses in the main event at the Hammerstein Ballroom of all places.It should had been better, was too slow thanks to the Big Slow. Fans stupid chants and actions made it worse, then the predictable arrival and same actions in the beatdown didnt help it at all.
Wait wait wait.....So you're expecting some sort of 4 star match from CM Punk and a Wrestlemania like of a match with Big Show and Batista?
:| I dont see any logic in that. Heres my short two cents. Theres no way they're gonna make Punk have a great match and pull out all of his big moves in his debut match cause it aint savin anything for his later career, and Batista is overrated crap, and Big Show is overweight crap.
Yeah sorry, I just needed to say that.
[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]One waste of Batista with that.
Two, same old same old boring stuff done by sabu. So predictable.
Chicago_Nut
Sabu saved that match. :|
match was fine, a bit slowly done, and a waste of Bastista. Sabu was there just to make them lame fans happy.
The match sucked. :| And Batista isn't that good anyway, why would you put to big hosses in the main event at the Hammerstein Ballroom of all places.It should had been better, was too slow thanks to the Big Slow. Fans stupid chants and actions made it worse, then the predictable arrival and same actions in the beatdown didnt help it at all.
Wait wait wait.....So you're expecting some sort of 4 star match from CM Punk and a Wrestlemania like of a match with Big Show and Batista?
:| I dont see any logic in that. Heres my short two cents. Theres no way they're gonna make Punk have a great match and pull out all of his big moves in his debut match cause it aint savin anything for his later career, and Batista is overrated crap, and Big Show is overweight crap.
Yeah sorry, I just needed to say that.
Quoted for truth. Batista is a piece of crap in the ring.[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]One waste of Batista with that.
Two, same old same old boring stuff done by sabu. So predictable.
Chicago_Nut
Sabu saved that match. :|
match was fine, a bit slowly done, and a waste of Bastista. Sabu was there just to make them lame fans happy.
The match sucked. :| And Batista isn't that good anyway, why would you put to big hosses in the main event at the Hammerstein Ballroom of all places.It should had been better, was too slow thanks to the Big Slow. Fans stupid chants and actions made it worse, then the predictable arrival and same actions in the beatdown didnt help it at all.
Wait wait wait.....So you're expecting some sort of 4 star match from CM Punk and a Wrestlemania like of a match with Big Show and Batista?
:| I dont see any logic in that. Heres my short two cents. Theres no way they're gonna make Punk have a great match and pull out all of his big moves in his debut match cause it aint savin anything for his later career, and Batista is overrated crap, and Big Show is overweight crap.
Yeah sorry, I just needed to say that.
Hey the way they and everyone built up Punk, was expecting more than an average match, for people that have never seen punk do want to know whats the hypes for, and for what they showed, wasnt warrented. Theres the logic simplified.
Batista is far from overrated.
Now thats quoted for truth.
[QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]One waste of Batista with that.
Two, same old same old boring stuff done by sabu. So predictable.
mrgab
Sabu saved that match. :|
match was fine, a bit slowly done, and a waste of Bastista. Sabu was there just to make them lame fans happy.
The match sucked. :| And Batista isn't that good anyway, why would you put to big hosses in the main event at the Hammerstein Ballroom of all places.It should had been better, was too slow thanks to the Big Slow. Fans stupid chants and actions made it worse, then the predictable arrival and same actions in the beatdown didnt help it at all.
Wait wait wait.....So you're expecting some sort of 4 star match from CM Punk and a Wrestlemania like of a match with Big Show and Batista?
:| I dont see any logic in that. Heres my short two cents. Theres no way they're gonna make Punk have a great match and pull out all of his big moves in his debut match cause it aint savin anything for his later career, and Batista is overrated crap, and Big Show is overweight crap.
Yeah sorry, I just needed to say that.
Hey the way they and everyone built up Punk, was expecting more than an average match, for people that have never seen punk do want to know whats the hypes for, and for what they showed, wasnt warrented. Theres the logic simplified.
Batista is far from overrated.
Now thats quoted for truth.
its a 1 hour show, its his debut, its justin credible, stop judging him on first appearance, he made the amtch great for what time he had
batista is overrated
quoted for the lies, colberts gonna kill you
[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="Chicago_Nut"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]One waste of Batista with that.
Two, same old same old boring stuff done by sabu. So predictable.
straven_marven
Sabu saved that match. :|
match was fine, a bit slowly done, and a waste of Bastista. Sabu was there just to make them lame fans happy.
The match sucked. :| And Batista isn't that good anyway, why would you put to big hosses in the main event at the Hammerstein Ballroom of all places.It should had been better, was too slow thanks to the Big Slow. Fans stupid chants and actions made it worse, then the predictable arrival and same actions in the beatdown didnt help it at all.
Wait wait wait.....So you're expecting some sort of 4 star match from CM Punk and a Wrestlemania like of a match with Big Show and Batista?
:| I dont see any logic in that. Heres my short two cents. Theres no way they're gonna make Punk have a great match and pull out all of his big moves in his debut match cause it aint savin anything for his later career, and Batista is overrated crap, and Big Show is overweight crap.
Yeah sorry, I just needed to say that.
Hey the way they and everyone built up Punk, was expecting more than an average match, for people that have never seen punk do want to know whats the hypes for, and for what they showed, wasnt warrented. Theres the logic simplified.
Batista is far from overrated.
Now thats quoted for truth.
its a 1 hour show, its his debut, its justin credible, stop judging him on first appearance, he made the amtch great for what time he had
batista is overrated
quoted for the lies, colberts gonna kill you
great? that was at best average, nothing special to it. Stop judging it just because you adore that wrestler.
Think what you want about Batista, thats your opinion.
[QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]One waste of Batista with that.
Two, same old same old boring stuff done by sabu. So predictable.
mrgab
Sabu saved that match. :|
match was fine, a bit slowly done, and a waste of Bastista. Sabu was there just to make them lame fans happy.
The match sucked. :| And Batista isn't that good anyway, why would you put to big hosses in the main event at the Hammerstein Ballroom of all places.It should had been better, was too slow thanks to the Big Slow. Fans stupid chants and actions made it worse, then the predictable arrival and same actions in the beatdown didnt help it at all.
But you need to understand that the fans is what ECW is all about. It isn't really just the hardcore, weapons, beating women, it's about entertaining the crowd. And the crowd is what makes ECW great the way they voice their opinions. If you're expecting the same old, 2 big guys fighting a slow match, WWE style match (no matter how wattered down this ECW is) you're in the wrong place. It pains me to see people like you judge the show because of the crowd's actions. And CM Punk had a great match for his debut. I don't know what you were expecting but this is just a 1 hour show, it's not like a PPV, don't expect a huge high quality match from a guy just debuting. We were lucky to get what we got from the first match of the show, since this isn't a PPV. If this doesn't make any sense to you...or if you just flat out don't agree with me...then I really don't think ECW is your type of show.This CM Punk guy doesn't look like anything special. I see people acting like he is already some sort of legend, and he only does a few moves in this match. The main event was decent, but too bad the nerds at the Hammerstein Ballroom will think anyone over 6'0 and 200 lbs. sucks.Rage11I wouldn't call them nerds - and doing so seems kind of lame - and I actually agree with them. I'm not a hardcore ECW fan by I thought CM Punk was impressive. Maybe not impressive as the hype has made him seem, but still impressive. I'm sure once he fights someone like Kurt Angle and/or given more time for a match we'll get to see how talented he truly is. As for the rest of the show, the Angle match was boring, the main event was lame (if they're not going to make every match hardcore, fine... but at least make the title matches "extreme"), and more vampires. Oh, and Shannon Moore! YAY! He's... not very good. He was a jobber on Smackdown, then a jobber on TNA... what do they expect from him on ECW? The opening tag team match was good, though, and I liked the finish. In the end, the crowd was what I enjoyed most. I wish they wouldn't throw trash in the ring - I thought the match was boring, but I have too much respect for both men, especially Show, to even think that trash throwing would be acceptable - but most of their chants made me laugh. I wish ECW would be two hours long so that matches could be longer. I loved the RVD chant. He returns next week, I hope!
Well I think the show started off great but ended badly. I believe that it had the potential to be one of the best shows so far, even with ought RVD, but fell short in the end. I think having Punk's debut & Angle's return on the same night and at ECW's home venue was a smart move. However, having only one hour for the entire show hurt, more the Angle match then the Punk match.
The tag match was great and done right, IMO, for the home crowd. The interferance and spanking helped the match and the feuds.
CM Punk's match was good. I can't wait to see him get better opponents though so I can really see Punk in a great match. I didn't expect Punk to be as popular as he was, but apparently ECW fans=ROH fans. I'm just guessing, but I think Punk v Angle would be a great match if done correctly. As for Punk's in ring skills, I can't judge with this being the first time I've seen him, but I think I'll enjoy him shortly.
What was Brawler doing in an ECW ring? Did he wrestle for ECW before? As for the match itself, I didn't like it. It simply was too short for being Angle's return match.
The main event was your typical WWE match. I think the best part was the chanting from the crowd. I figured Sabu would interfere and I think that saved the fans from completely rioting and taring down the building.
[QUOTE="Kotenks"]No matter what kind of match Punk had tonight, you would have said the same thing.mrgab
If he could have at least had one impressive and not the usual move, then might have thought differently.
That tarantual type move wasn't impressivve to you?[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]One waste of Batista with that.
Two, same old same old boring stuff done by sabu. So predictable.
wwervin
Sabu saved that match. :|
match was fine, a bit slowly done, and a waste of Bastista. Sabu was there just to make them lame fans happy.
The match sucked. :| And Batista isn't that good anyway, why would you put to big hosses in the main event at the Hammerstein Ballroom of all places.It should had been better, was too slow thanks to the Big Slow. Fans stupid chants and actions made it worse, then the predictable arrival and same actions in the beatdown didnt help it at all.
But you need to understand that the fans is what ECW is all about. It isn't really just the hardcore, weapons, beating women, it's about entertaining the crowd. And the crowd is what makes ECW great the way they voice their opinions. If you're expecting the same old, 2 big guys fighting a slow match, WWE style match (no matter how wattered down this ECW is) you're in the wrong place. It pains me to see people like you judge the show because of the crowd's actions. And CM Punk had a great match for his debut. I don't know what you were expecting but this is just a 1 hour show, it's not like a PPV, don't expect a huge high quality match from a guy just debuting. We were lucky to get what we got from the first match of the show, since this isn't a PPV. If this doesn't make any sense to you...or if you just flat out don't agree with me...then I really don't think ECW is your type of show.Read previous messages for answers to the Punk match.
I judge the show based on my views, the dumb chants just made me want to mute the show. But the stupid tossing of garbage is uncalled for.
Ok, well, Im done arguing, somebody else can do it for me. Well then, I enjoyed ECW mainly for the crowd. They were great, and freakin loud as heck. They tried to mute the crowd but no such thing could happen. :lol:
Tag Match was good while it lasted, but bad finish. CM Punk's debut was a mark out moment for me. I liked some of his moves, and some of those kicks were brutal. A pretty good match honestly, and Im not just saying that cause Im a MegaMark for Punk. Its a nice change to the jobber debut matches the WWE gives.
Batista vs Big Show was LAME! But the crowd was insanely great, I could really see it affecting them in the match. Plus, they dont even make it extreme rules? What the hell is Vince thinking? Overall, a worthwhile show, mainly for the crowd.
[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="Kotenks"]No matter what kind of match Punk had tonight, you would have said the same thing.mja2k3
If he could have at least had one impressive and not the usual move, then might have thought differently.
That tarantual type move wasn't impressivve to you?When I saw it the first 100 times from tajiri it was.
[QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="Kotenks"]No matter what kind of match Punk had tonight, you would have said the same thing.mrgab
If he could have at least had one impressive and not the usual move, then might have thought differently.
That tarantual type move wasn't impressivve to you?When I saw it the first 100 times from tajiri it was.
Except it wasn't anything like Tajiri's[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="Kotenks"]No matter what kind of match Punk had tonight, you would have said the same thing.mja2k3
If he could have at least had one impressive and not the usual move, then might have thought differently.
That tarantual type move wasn't impressivve to you?When I saw it the first 100 times from tajiri it was.
Except it wasn't anything like Tajiri'sPersonally, I like Tajiris better.
[QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="Kotenks"]No matter what kind of match Punk had tonight, you would have said the same thing.mrgab
If he could have at least had one impressive and not the usual move, then might have thought differently.
That tarantual type move wasn't impressivve to you?When I saw it the first 100 times from tajiri it was.
Except it wasn't anything like Tajiri'sPersonally, I like Tajiris better.
Clearly nothing any ECW/CM Punk faithful say to you will change your mind... so I think we should all stop arguing and whatnot. I think it is wrong to judge CM Punk after one match... so maybe we should just leave it at that?[QUOTE="wwervin"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]One waste of Batista with that.
Two, same old same old boring stuff done by sabu. So predictable.
mrgab
Sabu saved that match. :|
match was fine, a bit slowly done, and a waste of Bastista. Sabu was there just to make them lame fans happy.
The match sucked. :| And Batista isn't that good anyway, why would you put to big hosses in the main event at the Hammerstein Ballroom of all places.It should had been better, was too slow thanks to the Big Slow. Fans stupid chants and actions made it worse, then the predictable arrival and same actions in the beatdown didnt help it at all.
But you need to understand that the fans is what ECW is all about. It isn't really just the hardcore, weapons, beating women, it's about entertaining the crowd. And the crowd is what makes ECW great the way they voice their opinions. If you're expecting the same old, 2 big guys fighting a slow match, WWE style match (no matter how wattered down this ECW is) you're in the wrong place. It pains me to see people like you judge the show because of the crowd's actions. And CM Punk had a great match for his debut. I don't know what you were expecting but this is just a 1 hour show, it's not like a PPV, don't expect a huge high quality match from a guy just debuting. We were lucky to get what we got from the first match of the show, since this isn't a PPV. If this doesn't make any sense to you...or if you just flat out don't agree with me...then I really don't think ECW is your type of show.Read previous messages for answers to the Punk match.
I judge the show based on my views, the dumb chants just made me want to mute the show. But the stupid tossing of garbage is uncalled for.
I did, you're basically saying that he didn't do any impressive moves and that it was your typical match. I don't agree with you. The tarantula rope move was done well, his brutal kicks to Credible, and what about that clothesline off the ropes. The knee to Credible looked cool to me, and his Anaconda Vice move looked awesome. If you ask me, you're only trying to "go against the grain" here and argue us to try and be different.
I agree with you that CM Punk was overhyped, but even so he looked pretty great to me. Just accept the fact that his match did what it intended to, to entertain us, the fans. If it didn't entertain you, it's like I said, ECW isn't the right show to be watching.
[QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="Kotenks"]No matter what kind of match Punk had tonight, you would have said the same thing.mrgab
If he could have at least had one impressive and not the usual move, then might have thought differently.
That tarantual type move wasn't impressivve to you?When I saw it the first 100 times from tajiri it was.
Oh, you mean how Batista does the Batista bomb, the same move a million other wrestlers use?
[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="Kotenks"]No matter what kind of match Punk had tonight, you would have said the same thing.Zork-Ness
If he could have at least had one impressive and not the usual move, then might have thought differently.
That tarantual type move wasn't impressivve to you?When I saw it the first 100 times from tajiri it was.
Except it wasn't anything like Tajiri'sPersonally, I like Tajiris better.
Clearly nothing any ECW/CM Punk faithful say to you will change your mind... so I think we should all stop arguing and whatnot. I think it is wrong to judge CM Punk after one match... so maybe we should just leave it at that?thats what we do here, judge matches and wrestlers. so nothing wrong there.
[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="wwervin"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"][QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="mja2k3"] [QUOTE="mrgab"]One waste of Batista with that.
Two, same old same old boring stuff done by sabu. So predictable.
wwervin
Sabu saved that match. :|
match was fine, a bit slowly done, and a waste of Bastista. Sabu was there just to make them lame fans happy.
The match sucked. :| And Batista isn't that good anyway, why would you put to big hosses in the main event at the Hammerstein Ballroom of all places.It should had been better, was too slow thanks to the Big Slow. Fans stupid chants and actions made it worse, then the predictable arrival and same actions in the beatdown didnt help it at all.
But you need to understand that the fans is what ECW is all about. It isn't really just the hardcore, weapons, beating women, it's about entertaining the crowd. And the crowd is what makes ECW great the way they voice their opinions. If you're expecting the same old, 2 big guys fighting a slow match, WWE style match (no matter how wattered down this ECW is) you're in the wrong place. It pains me to see people like you judge the show because of the crowd's actions. And CM Punk had a great match for his debut. I don't know what you were expecting but this is just a 1 hour show, it's not like a PPV, don't expect a huge high quality match from a guy just debuting. We were lucky to get what we got from the first match of the show, since this isn't a PPV. If this doesn't make any sense to you...or if you just flat out don't agree with me...then I really don't think ECW is your type of show.Read previous messages for answers to the Punk match.
I judge the show based on my views, the dumb chants just made me want to mute the show. But the stupid tossing of garbage is uncalled for.
I did, you're basically saying that he didn't do any impressive moves and that it was your typical match. I don't agree with you. The tarantula rope move was done well, his brutal kicks to Credible, and what about that clothesline off the ropes. The knee to Credible looked cool to me, and his Anaconda Vice move looked awesome. If you ask me, you're only trying to "go against the grain" here and argue us to try and be different.
I agree with you that CM Punk was overhyped, but even so he looked pretty great to me. Just accept the fact that his match did what it intended to, to entertain us, the fans. If it didn't entertain you, it's like I said, ECW isn't the right show to be watching.
I am stating my opinion, my feelings on the hype over an average debut match. I enjoyed the first tag team match, that was entertaining, this punk match wasnt. You guys are just defending your favorite wrestlers and cant see anyone elses opinions.
Oh, you mean how Batista does the Batista bomb, the same move a million other wrestlers use?
JML897
im sorry i just watched that match again and that was dam impressive, nothing can please you and yer just trying to go against the crowdstraven_marven
Get over it guys, not everyone agrees with you, thats all you are annoyed at.
[QUOTE="JML897"]
Oh, you mean how Batista does the Batista bomb, the same move a million other wrestlers use?
mrgab
im sorry i just watched that match again and that was dam impressive, nothing can please you and yer just trying to go against the crowdstraven_marven
Get over it guys, not everyone agrees with you, thats all you are annoyed at.
Mrgrab, I'm not trying to put you down or anything, but at this point you just seem like you're trying to promote havoc. Your opinion is fine and all but you have to let other people express their opinions without backlashing. You say that no one else can "can't see anyone else's opinion"... but the same thing holds true for you. People are defending Punk but you just stay strong with your opinion... which is fine, but you shouldn't insult or complain about them doing the same thing. Also, you triple posted... doesn't that seem a bit exessive? Also, does anyone know if Brawler is going to be an ECW wrestler now? Tazz was promoting him like he was the newest member of the team... God, I hope not...[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="JML897"]
Oh, you mean how Batista does the Batista bomb, the same move a million other wrestlers use?
Zork-Ness
im sorry i just watched that match again and that was dam impressive, nothing can please you and yer just trying to go against the crowdstraven_marven
Get over it guys, not everyone agrees with you, thats all you are annoyed at.
Mrgrab, I'm not trying to put you down or anything, but at this point you just seem like you're trying to promote havoc. Your opinion is fine and all but you have to let other people express their opinions without backlashing. You say that no one else can "can't see anyone else's opinion"... but the same thing holds true for you. People are defending Punk but you just stay strong with your opinion... which is fine, but you shouldn't insult or complain about them doing the same thing. Also, you triple posted... doesn't that seem a bit exessive? Also, does anyone know if Brawler is going to be an ECW wrestler now? Tazz was promoting him like he was the newest member of the team... God, I hope not...All I was doing was stating my view, my opinion, and get bashed down by a group.
I state my opinion like everyone else and just because its different, they all have to say I'm doing this to be different, I dont care for that type of rudeness.
ok so ECW was decent tonight. Punk's debut was great and it would awesome seeing him pull off the kick and punch combo he learned from Joe. i'm disappointed he didn't use a lot of his usual moves. no shining wizard, Welcome to Chicago MotherF*****, Pepsi Twist, the Plunge, etc. i bet they are saving some of those for a bigger match.
the crowd was great, i laughed everytime the WWE production crew had to turn down the volume so the crowd wasn't as audible.
and does anyone else hate the Shannon Moore vignettes? the music makes me want to throw the remote at the tv.
well, IMHO, I think this is the best ECW show we have seen yet. even without and RVD appearance. the Internet fans were alive and ready tonight! :P
the opening match was better than I expected. however, it had a lame finish. LMFAO @ dreamer and Kelly, was I the only one who thought he was going to pile drive her?
Kurt angle v. the Brooklyn brawler was...a waste? I don't want to say unnecessary because it's Kurt's welcome back match, but he could of faced balls mahoney or someone else, even thought he's a face.
Batista v. Big show was truly, worthless.having batista fight him was completely worthless, and I hope the wwe was listening to the crowd, and took some notes. this match was really slow, and not only on the big show's part but batista's too. Sabu interfering at the end kind of made it worth it, because those chair shots were pretty sick. and not only did I think sabu was going to come, but RVD as well. they let orton come back early, and this would of been the PERFECT time to let rvd back.
now, time for what was imo, the MOTN.
cm punk v. Justin credible. I don't want to sound like the classic smark, because I have only seen one match of punks before, but he really impressed me tonight. like a lot.Punk was not repetitive at all. and I'm surprised he used the different moves that he did. the crowd was WAY over for him, but that will probably change next week. and punks music was,..mediocore. I am really looking forward to his future matches, against a real opponent.
To mrgab:
It's true, not everyone agrees, but I do see why they (as well as me) are somewhat annoyed. Your opinion doesn't really make that much sense. You can't base that much importance on a guy's debuting match. He's got his entire career ahead of him, and you judge him so poorly after his first match. And it's not like it was a horrible match where I would have to agree with you, the guy was actually good. Maybe some overhyping played its part here, but like I said even though he was hyped I still enjoyed his match. It was fast paced, had lots of action, not a squash, and contained some excellently executed moves.
I may be wrong here (and I know you'll try and say I am) but to me it feels like you don't want to be just another follower of the guy, so you are trying to make it out to be like he's someone that shouldn't be wrestling. And the way you point out every flaw in the show (even though some of the flaws *cough, the crowd* aren't flaws) it feels like you don't like the show. No one is exactly forcing you to watch it, you need to remember that. If it doesn't entertain you (which is ok, everyone is entitled to opinions) then you don't have to sit through it, there's much better things to do instead (trust me, I never watch SD! on Fridays anymore I'm usually out so I just tape it).
I hope that cleared up some of this debate, I know you won't agree with my points but just try to see it from my perspective. You just look like a tough critic in my opinion, just loosen up and enjoy the show.
I agree... though I hate Shannon Moore in general. So I guess I'm biased.ok so ECW was decent tonight. Punk's debut was great and it would awesome seeing him pull off the kick and punch combo he learned from Joe. i'm disappointed he didn't use a lot of his usual moves. no shining wizard, Welcome to Chicago MotherF*****, Pepsi Twist, the Plunge, etc. i bet they are saving some of those for a bigger match.
the crowd was great, i laughed everytime the WWE production crew had to turn down the volume so the crowd wasn't as audible.
and does anyone else hate the Shannon Moore vignettes? the music makes me want to throw the remote at the tv.
sephy37
It's true, not everyone agrees, but I do see why they (as well as me) are somewhat annoyed. Your opinion doesn't really make that much sense. You can't base that much importance on a guy's debuting match. He's got his entire career ahead of him, and you judge him so poorly after his first match. And it's not like it was a horrible match where I would have to agree with you, the guy was actually good. Maybe some overhyping played its part here, but like I said even though he was hyped I still enjoyed his match. It was fast paced, had lots of action, not a squash, and contained some excellently executed moves.I may be wrong here (and I know you'll try and say I am) but to me it feels like you don't want to be just another follower of the guy, so you are trying to make it out to be like he's someone that shouldn't be wrestling. And the way you point out every flaw in the show (even though some of the flaws *cough, the crowd* aren't flaws) it feels like you don't like the show. No one is exactly forcing you to watch it, you need to remember that. If it doesn't entertain you (which is ok, everyone is entitled to opinions) then you don't have to sit through it, there's much better things to do instead (trust me, I never watch SD! on Fridays anymore I'm usually out so I just tape it).
I hope that cleared up some of this debate, I know you won't agree with my points but just try to see it from my perspective. You just look like a tough critic in my opinion, just loosen up and enjoy the show.
wwervin
With the hype and the way the match didnt live up to the hype, it was a match. I've seen lesser hype with better results in the past(remember this is my opinion, so if it annoys you people for me not to agree with you, dont worry about it, I dont control ECW)
Every week, there are many who point out every match for each brand, good points and bad points, why cant I do the same? And I dont just point out the flaws, I liked that tag team match, that was the match of the night.
[QUOTE="wwervin"]It's true, not everyone agrees, but I do see why they (as well as me) are somewhat annoyed. Your opinion doesn't really make that much sense. You can't base that much importance on a guy's debuting match. He's got his entire career ahead of him, and you judge him so poorly after his first match. And it's not like it was a horrible match where I would have to agree with you, the guy was actually good. Maybe some overhyping played its part here, but like I said even though he was hyped I still enjoyed his match. It was fast paced, had lots of action, not a squash, and contained some excellently executed moves.I may be wrong here (and I know you'll try and say I am) but to me it feels like you don't want to be just another follower of the guy, so you are trying to make it out to be like he's someone that shouldn't be wrestling. And the way you point out every flaw in the show (even though some of the flaws *cough, the crowd* aren't flaws) it feels like you don't like the show. No one is exactly forcing you to watch it, you need to remember that. If it doesn't entertain you (which is ok, everyone is entitled to opinions) then you don't have to sit through it, there's much better things to do instead (trust me, I never watch SD! on Fridays anymore I'm usually out so I just tape it).
I hope that cleared up some of this debate, I know you won't agree with my points but just try to see it from my perspective. You just look like a tough critic in my opinion, just loosen up and enjoy the show.
mrgab
With the hype and the way the match didnt live up to the hype, it was a match. I've seen lesser hype with better results in the past(remember this is my opinion, so if it annoys you people for me not to agree with you, dont worry about it, I dont control ECW)
Every week, there are many who point out every match for each brand, good points and bad points, why cant I do the same? And I dont just point out the flaws, I liked that tag team match, that was the match of the night.
No one is saying you can't, we want you to say your opinions, but I think most of us just have a problem with the way you're judging his debut. It's just not right to grade a guy who in my opinion had a good match, so tough based on 1 performance you've seen from him (which was good). That's why people aren't agreeing with you. I think it's kind of like the first week of ECW. Everyone got overhyped, it was terrible, and they blew it off. BUT....this is where it gets better, those of us who didn't abandon ECW after 1 show, the guy's who stuck through it, returned the following week to experience a great show. So it isn't enough to watch 1 match from him. You have to give it time.[QUOTE="mrgab"][QUOTE="wwervin"]It's true, not everyone agrees, but I do see why they (as well as me) are somewhat annoyed. Your opinion doesn't really make that much sense. You can't base that much importance on a guy's debuting match. He's got his entire career ahead of him, and you judge him so poorly after his first match. And it's not like it was a horrible match where I would have to agree with you, the guy was actually good. Maybe some overhyping played its part here, but like I said even though he was hyped I still enjoyed his match. It was fast paced, had lots of action, not a squash, and contained some excellently executed moves.I may be wrong here (and I know you'll try and say I am) but to me it feels like you don't want to be just another follower of the guy, so you are trying to make it out to be like he's someone that shouldn't be wrestling. And the way you point out every flaw in the show (even though some of the flaws *cough, the crowd* aren't flaws) it feels like you don't like the show. No one is exactly forcing you to watch it, you need to remember that. If it doesn't entertain you (which is ok, everyone is entitled to opinions) then you don't have to sit through it, there's much better things to do instead (trust me, I never watch SD! on Fridays anymore I'm usually out so I just tape it).
I hope that cleared up some of this debate, I know you won't agree with my points but just try to see it from my perspective. You just look like a tough critic in my opinion, just loosen up and enjoy the show.
wwervin
With the hype and the way the match didnt live up to the hype, it was a match. I've seen lesser hype with better results in the past(remember this is my opinion, so if it annoys you people for me not to agree with you, dont worry about it, I dont control ECW)
Every week, there are many who point out every match for each brand, good points and bad points, why cant I do the same? And I dont just point out the flaws, I liked that tag team match, that was the match of the night.
No one is saying you can't, we want you to say your opinions, but I think most of us just have a problem with the way you're judging his debut. It's just not right to grade a guy who in my opinion had a good match, so tough based on 1 performance you've seen from him (which was good). That's why people aren't agreeing with you. I think it's kind of like the first week of ECW. Everyone got overhyped, it was terrible, and they blew it off. BUT....this is where it gets better, those of us who didn't abandon ECW after 1 show, the guy's who stuck through it, returned the following week to experience a great show. So it isn't enough to watch 1 match from him. You have to give it time.I'm sure he will do more in future matches, but I didnt care for this first one which is why I said what I said. I judged the hype and that particular match. I have been watching every week since its return(not the old days though). The shows have improved gradualy, each show having at least one good match. If I enjoy his match next week, I will say so. If I dont like say an Angle match like this week, I will say I didnt like it.
Well, I really enjoyed ECW tonight. From a top to bottom perspective, I think this was ECW's best effort to date and probably one of the better free wrestling shows we may see, seeing where both TNA and WWE seem to be heading.
Can't ask for a much better way to start the show than that match and have in any way realistic expectations. Very nice, entertaining match with solid brutality. Hell, Kelly's role didn't even bother me too much.
Why does Sabu talk now? I liked it more when he didn't talk.
I liked Punk's debut match. It was a smart choice to give his in-ring debut to Hammerstein as they treated him like a star. Nice little showcase and Justa Jobber didn't look too pathetic for once.Â
I got a kick out of the Brooklyn Brawler's ECW debut. I got a bigger kick out of the fact he got a pretty respectful reaction. The headbutt saved this poor match. Show that one to that obnoxious kid that keeps saying "wrestling is fake."
I loved that huge "RVD" chant at the Big Show. Tonight was really the opportune moment to bring him back, 30 days or no. The crowd woulda gone banana.
While I won't deny more than a few giggles at the crowd during the main event ("Change the Channel" being my favorite), I felt bad for both Show and Batista. Even had they gone out there and delivered a match far better than they should have, the crowd would have crapped all over it. Show has really been motivated and tried to up his game in ECW and even though he's not good, I still like Batista and I respected that they seemed to be trying, but they didn't have a chance. Had WWE saved that one for the typical Smackdown crowd, it would have been pretty well recieved, but WWE didn't know their audience, and this audience let them hear it, loud and clear. It also made the match quite a bit more entertaining, I just wish WWE had unchained Styles for a night instead of making him and Tazz try to sell the match.
A DQ in an ECW Title match. *sigh*
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