ECW Discussions Thread - August 1, 2006

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#101 Total-KO
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So who's this CM Punk guy? I heard he debuted on ECW the other night. :P
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#102 wallymartin
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A note about this thread: mrgab, I respect your opinion and I think it's unfair that the other posters in this thread have apparantly taken it a bit too personally. 

Onto my thoughts on the show:

Test/Knox vs Dreamer/Sandman was possibly the most ECWlike thing we've seen since it's return.  I loved it.  The ending kind of fell short, but overall it was very well done. 

I really liked the short Heyman/Sabu promo.  They did a great job of creating the right lockerroom atmosphere to compliment Heyman's current character.

My first time seeing CM Punk in a match, and I was very impressed.  Part of it may have been how insanely over he was with the crowd, but I'm not complaining.  Good to see it wasn't a squash.

Brooklyn Brawler?  Oh okay, he's Angle-meat.  I barely even consider this a match.  I wish Angle would stop slapping his opponent all the time.

And now the main event- The ECW crowd tore Batista and Show apart, and I loved it.  I really hope Vince was paying attention.  Unfortunately he probably was, but it ends up back-firing and he decides not to go back to an ECW arena.  I think The_Dude summed up the ME really well, so go back and read his thoughts on it.

A very good edition of ECW.  I'd watch it again.

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#103 carlito_is_cool
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this is not me this is my friend miles

i had no idea that cm punk was that impressive for a guy i barely even heard of the name "The Savior Of Pro Wrestling" fits him well. After hearing all that stuff he was bragging about i thought he was going to be another one of those generic garbage wrestlers that come and go. Good ECW debut for a guy who's initials are "Chick Magnet"Miles

ok...thats what he has to say

after the hype by pretty much everyone i think that the debut suited him well he has the most potential ive ever seen...bravo punk

Edit: Miles said don't flame him for not knowing who CM punk is he dosent know that much about roh and independent wrestling

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#104 Link256
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While I won't deny more than a few giggles at the crowd during the main event ("Change the Channel" being my favorite), I felt bad for both Show and Batista.  Even had they gone out there and delivered a match far better than they should have, the crowd would have crapped all over it.  Show has really been motivated and tried to up his game in ECW and even though he's not good, I still like Batista and I respected that they seemed to be trying, but they didn't have a chance.  Had WWE saved that one for the typical Smackdown crowd, it would have been pretty well recieved, but WWE didn't know their audience, and this audience let them hear it, loud and clear. It also made the match quite a bit more entertaining, I just wish WWE had unchained Styles for a night instead of making him and Tazz try to sell the match.The_Dude14

Yeah...I could not agree more... I notice it seem to really effect Batista...

Also...am I the only one who thinks that one fan talking trash to Batista pre-match was on the obnoxious side of things...? Granted...I am in favor of audience that makes their voice heard...however...I do not think Batista deserved that kind of treatment... In addition... what was Vince McMahon thinking? Did he want to anger the audience on purpose or what?

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#105 Link256
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After ECW On Sci-Fi went off the air, the Big Show and Batista teased getting back in the ring to wrestle more as the crowd booed. They entered the ring, smiled, shook hands, and hugged as fans threw garbage into the ring. The two then walked around ringside giving fans high fives as many of them cursed at them. Big Show eventually grabbed the mic and told the crowd to kiss his ass.

Live reports had the crowd being mixed with original ECW fans who hated all the WWE wrestlers and WWE fans who cheered the WWE guys.

Simon Dean and Fit Finlay were backstage at the show.

Recently eliminated Diva Search contestant Rebecca was seated in one of the balconies at the show.


Dark Match Results:Thanks to 411 reader Jim for the Dark Match Results.

Balls Mahony def. Rene Dupree

Roadkill def. Stevie Richards

London/Kendrik def. Little Guido/Tony Mamaluke

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/43602/Notes-On-What-Happened-After-ECW-Went-Off-The-Air-and-Dark-Match-Results.htm

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#106 hbk91
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Last time I checked, having an opinion was perfectly fine and acceptable, regardless if it goes down as one against a troop. I felt it was unjust for some of you to decide to gather up and argue against the mrgab in an intimidating manner. Sure, a civilised argument would have been fine but deciding to call him "hopeless" with other petty comments isn't, at all, just because he didn't follow the crowd.

What a way to ruin the discussions thread to what was an awesome show to chat about.

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#107 AcolyteV1
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Well, my lack of Sky Sports means I missed the show, but it sounds like a really good one ^_^. Punk's debut is something I really want to see, after recently getting chance to see some of his RoH matches. I'm sure it's not going to live up to Punk vs Austin Aries where he won the RoH title, but still, it's a debut, what can you expect? I figure it took Carlito over a year to even debut his finisher, so as long as Punk fairs better than that, I'll be a happy camper :p. The rest of the show sounds decent, too. Part of me wants to see it just to hear the crowd's reaction :p

EDIT: Oh! I just got to watch Punk's debut (god bless YouTube :p).  Damn, that was a frikkin fantastic debut!  After reading the comments here, I was expecting a pretty lacklustre debut, but I really enjoyed that match.  Punk's version of the tarantula looks wicked, actually more painful and plausible than Tajiri's, I think.  Man, and that jab / spinning chop combo, or the running knee to the corner followed by a bulldog.... man, and people are saying he's saving his better moeveset for another match!?  Roll on those matches then!
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#108 KevyR
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Well, last night show was something. I enjoy the first match, even though the ending was kinda crap!..... Punk was really well-recieved by the fans, and I guess they been watching ROH and whatnot..... Angle returning made me happy. The head-butt to the Brooklyn Brawler was kinda funny to me, and it was a legit head-butt. I'm surprise it didn't hurt him or if it did, he did a good job of keeping his face straight..... The crowd reaction to Batista/Show was humorous and all, but I do feel bad that the fans really made Show and Batista match feel really terrible. And the match was okay, but they should've never wrestle in the ECW hostile crowd venue. Should've save that for another SD! event. Overall it was a decent show, and I sure hope at Summerslam, they add a Sabu vs. Big Show match to the lineup, and possibly add RVD to the mix.
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#109 thatguytony
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Wow, this thread got really nasty! I enjoyed the show alot; especially the tag match which was classic ECW(as far as I'm concerned). The Angle squash match was funny and that headbutt was nasty. Was happy with Punk's debut and expect greater matches to follow. The crowd was vintage ECW and funny as hell. Though, I'm really getting tired of fans throwing crap at the wrestlers. Even if I'm not a fan of a wrestler I respect that they go out there and bust their asses(and risk injury)to put on a show. I can't imagine it is easy to go out and perform in front of an audience that hostile.
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#110 Kotenks
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I ownder what will happen next week.

RVD has to have a match/promo. Kurt has to have a match. Punk will probably gte an angle or another match. Big show/ Sabu needs to be pushed more

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#111 sephy37
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I ownder what will happen next week.

RVD has to have a match/promo. Kurt has to have a match. Punk will probably gte an angle or another match. Big show/ Sabu needs to be pushed more

Kotenks

it'll probably be Knox & Test vs. Sabu.

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#112 TheGm86
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The crowd was vintage ECW and funny as hell. Though, I'm really getting tired of fans throwing crap at the wrestlers. Even if I'm not a fan of a wrestler I respect that they go out there and bust their asses(and risk injury)to put on a show. I can't imagine it is easy to go out and perform in front of an audience that hostile.
thatguytony

It happens....Like at Wrestlemania 3 they where throwing garbage at Andre The Giant!....It happens....would I do it. probable not....Unless it was Joe....I'd nail him with a can of slim fast....and when he comes to confront me I'd give him a Purple Nurple and make him tap! (D.T.T.S.S. rule in a effect)

Saw the match on Youtube (So pissed that I missed the show) good match.. I'm glad the guy knows how the sell a move...witch for some reason not that many people know how to do today. That knee was nasty.

And if you guys don't like when people say Meh about Punk don't dare go near Gamefaqs...The Punk hate over this massive...

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#113 wwervin
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Ok after reading a couple of posts from you guys I kinda see that some of us are "ganging up" on mrgab and I just wanna go on record here as saying I'm not trying to be mean to you or anything like that, I respect your opinion but it is true that not everyone will agree with it. Anyway let's all drop it now and look forward to next week's show.

Also during Show's match, did anyone else catch that "Take a shower!" chant? :P I thought it was hillarious how Show smelled his own armpit and laughed about it, great way to play to the crowd. He also took it upon himself to flip the crowd off at one point which just shows he's a great heel. I felt kinda bad for Big Show. For Batista....not that much so. Batista has always been loved in the WWE, the fans have always eaten him up with a spoon and I think it's about time he got some crowd heat. He looked as if he couldn't handle the crowd IMO. A funny part of it was during his entrance, that one kid slapped his backside and Tista turns around looking all mean at the kid. The kid is obviously about to wet himself he looks scared to death. Then Batista turns around and the kid starts cursing him out. Lmao. The crowd should have showed more respect to Big Show especially by not throwing toilet paper, but overall I liked the crowd.

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#114 mja2k3
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Last time I checked, having an opinion was perfectly fine and acceptable, regardless if it goes down as one against a troop. I felt it was unjust for some of you to decide to gather up and argue against the mrgab in an intimidating manner. Sure, a civilised argument would have been fine but deciding to call him "hopeless" with other petty comments isn't, at all, just because he didn't follow the crowd.

What a way to ruin the discussions thread to what was an awesome show to chat about.

hbk91

My bad. When I meant hopeless I didn't mean that he was hopless. I was trying to say that he doesn't understand what we were trying to say because he wasn't really listening to us.
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#115 To_The_End99
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this ecw is going to be good
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#116 JoHn-CeNa346
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I missed CM Punk's debut cause i lost power. WTF! It finally turned on before Angle's match. Who did Punk face?
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#117 Chicago_Nut
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I missed CM Punk's debut cause i lost power. WTF! It finally turned on before Angle's match. Who did Punk face?JoHn-CeNa346
He faced Justin Credible, former ECW World Champion, current ECW jobber.
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#118 WWEMAN101
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this ecw is going to be goodTo_The_End99

why would you post that 3 days after the show aired?

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#119 hbk91
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[QUOTE="To_The_End99"]this ecw is going to be good
WWEMAN101

why would you post that 3 days after the show aired?


You've got to bear in mind that the show doesn't air at the same time as others more fortunate. For one, us in the UK haven't had the chance to catch up with this edition since it airs every Sunday. Doesn't stop some individuals though...

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#120 WWEMAN101
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[QUOTE="WWEMAN101"][QUOTE="To_The_End99"]this ecw is going to be good
hbk91


why would you post that 3 days after the show aired?


You've got to bear in mind that the show doesn't air at the same time as others more fortunate. For one, us in the UK haven't had the chance to catch up with this edition since it airs every Sunday. Doesn't stop some individuals though...

How was I supposed to know that?

Also, was the question directed at you? I'm sure that he (or she) can answer the question him or herself.

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#121 hbk91
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[QUOTE="hbk91"]

[QUOTE="WWEMAN101"][QUOTE="To_The_End99"]this ecw is going to be good
WWEMAN101


why would you post that 3 days after the show aired?


You've got to bear in mind that the show doesn't air at the same time as others more fortunate. For one, us in the UK haven't had the chance to catch up with this edition since it airs every Sunday. Doesn't stop some individuals though...


How was I supposed to know that?

Also, was the question directed at you? I'm sure that he (or she) can answer the question him or herself.


Well for one, not all countries are kept updated with the weekly shows on the day it originally airs, so I am just pointing that out, regardless of any specifications to timings whatsoever.

Oh and although that wasn't directly questioned at me, I felt it was right to offer some justification otherwise just so you know beforehand. As I said, not everyone gets to watch the shows on time.

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#122 mja2k3
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[QUOTE="WWEMAN101"][QUOTE="hbk91"]

[QUOTE="WWEMAN101"][QUOTE="To_The_End99"]this ecw is going to be good
hbk91


why would you post that 3 days after the show aired?


You've got to bear in mind that the show doesn't air at the same time as others more fortunate. For one, us in the UK haven't had the chance to catch up with this edition since it airs every Sunday. Doesn't stop some individuals though...


How was I supposed to know that?

Also, was the question directed at you? I'm sure that he (or she) can answer the question him or herself.


Well for one, not all countries are kept updated with the weekly shows on the day it originally airs, so I am just pointing that out, regardless of any specifications to timings whatsoever.

Oh and although that wasn't directly questioned at me, I felt it was right to offer some justification otherwise just so you know beforehand. As I said, not everyone gets to watch the shows on time.

Not only that but Mena can do whatever the hell he wants. He runs the union damnit
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#123 WWEMAN101
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[QUOTE="hbk91"][QUOTE="WWEMAN101"][QUOTE="hbk91"]

[QUOTE="WWEMAN101"][QUOTE="To_The_End99"]this ecw is going to be good
mja2k3


why would you post that 3 days after the show aired?


You've got to bear in mind that the show doesn't air at the same time as others more fortunate. For one, us in the UK haven't had the chance to catch up with this edition since it airs every Sunday. Doesn't stop some individuals though...


How was I supposed to know that?

Also, was the question directed at you? I'm sure that he (or she) can answer the question him or herself.


Well for one, not all countries are kept updated with the weekly shows on the day it originally airs, so I am just pointing that out, regardless of any specifications to timings whatsoever.

Oh and although that wasn't directly questioned at me, I felt it was right to offer some justification otherwise just so you know beforehand. As I said, not everyone gets to watch the shows on time.

Not only that but Mena can do whatever the hell he wants. He runs the union damnit

So. That's fine, to be honest, I would have responded the same way to anyone who posted the same thing. It's not like I should just pretend to agree with someone just because they run the union. If he tells me to do something, I'll do it, but as of now I'm just responding the way I always do,.

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#124 hbk91
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So. That's fine, to be honest, I would have responded the same way to anyone who posted the same thing. It's not like I should just pretend to agree with someone just because they run the union. If he tells me to do something, I'll do it, but as of now I'm just responding the way I always do.WWEMAN101

And I respect that.

Let's get back on the topic now. Any further thoughts on the show may be discussed in here till the next edition of ECW.