WWE Elimination Chamber - February 21st, 2010

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#51 -Fromage-
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Are we all forgetting when Edge screwed Kofi out of his Elimination Chamber match? It could easily happen again.

I mean, Shawn has about 30 minutes to do it while Taker is making his entrance into the chamber.Mu5uk0

I see where you're coming from. After all R-Truth pretty much fits the bill for that much like Kofi did last year. But that seems too heel-ish of a tactic, but it would be the exact same thing they did last year.

What I could see happening for the SD chamber is that 5 guys come out, 4 in the pods one of the starters. Undertaker is the last guy, he comes down to the ring doing his sloooow walk to the chamber. All of a sudden out comes HBK who runs past Taker and into the chamber. The chamber locks, the match starts, and HBK can smile all cocky-like that he outsmarted the Undertaker. Doesnt make him too heel-ish.

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Elimination Chamber Update:

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World Heavyweight Title - Elimination Chamber Match
The Undertaker (c) vs. John Morrison vs. CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho vs. Rey Mysterio vs. R-Truth

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Gee, I wonder who won't make it into that match.
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#53 lilhbk
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[QUOTE="Link256"]

Elimination Chamber Update:

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World Heavyweight Title - Elimination Chamber Match
The Undertaker (c) vs. John Morrison vs. CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho vs. Rey Mysterio vs. R-Truth

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Gee, I wonder who won't make it into that match.

Yeah I can definitely see Shawn attacking Y2J, and taking his spot :D
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[QUOTE="Link256"]

Elimination Chamber Update:

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World Heavyweight Title - Elimination Chamber Match
The Undertaker (c) vs. John Morrison vs. CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho vs. Rey Mysterio vs. R-Truth

The_Dude14
Gee, I wonder who won't make it into that match.

The Undertaker ala Unforgiven 2008 when Punk didn't even make it into the championship scramble?
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I see where you're coming from. After all R-Truth pretty much fits the bill for that much like Kofi did last year. But that seems too heel-ish of a tactic, but it would be the exact same thing they did last year.

What I could see happening for the SD chamber is that 5 guys come out, 4 in the pods one of the starters. Undertaker is the last guy, he comes down to the ring doing his sloooow walk to the chamber. All of a sudden out comes HBK who runs past Taker and into the chamber. The chamber locks, the match starts, and HBK can smile all cocky-like that he outsmarted the Undertaker. Doesnt make him too heel-ish.

-Fromage-
So, the officials are going to mistake Michaels for 'Taker, and just lock the chamber?
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[QUOTE="-Fromage-"] I see where you're coming from. After all R-Truth pretty much fits the bill for that much like Kofi did last year. But that seems too heel-ish of a tactic, but it would be the exact same thing they did last year.

What I could see happening for the SD chamber is that 5 guys come out, 4 in the pods one of the starters. Undertaker is the last guy, he comes down to the ring doing his sloooow walk to the chamber. All of a sudden out comes HBK who runs past Taker and into the chamber. The chamber locks, the match starts, and HBK can smile all cocky-like that he outsmarted the Undertaker. Doesnt make him too heel-ish.

Razor-Lazor
So, the officials are going to mistake Michaels for 'Taker, and just lock the chamber?

Maybe he superkicks him on the way down?
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#58 Razor-Lazor
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[QUOTE="Razor-Lazor"][QUOTE="-Fromage-"] I see where you're coming from. After all R-Truth pretty much fits the bill for that much like Kofi did last year. But that seems too heel-ish of a tactic, but it would be the exact same thing they did last year.

What I could see happening for the SD chamber is that 5 guys come out, 4 in the pods one of the starters. Undertaker is the last guy, he comes down to the ring doing his sloooow walk to the chamber. All of a sudden out comes HBK who runs past Taker and into the chamber. The chamber locks, the match starts, and HBK can smile all cocky-like that he outsmarted the Undertaker. Doesnt make him too heel-ish.

trick_man01

So, the officials are going to mistake Michaels for 'Taker, and just lock the chamber?

Maybe he superkicks him on the way down?

What I was getting at is how the officials will just lock the Chamber because HBK beat 'Taker to it.

But I guess that IS EXACTLY what they did last year with Kofi and Edge. That being said, I don't believe WWE would do the exact same thing two years in a row.

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#59 sephy37
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Someone could just beat up R-Truth in the back. Thats what they did to Punk when Jericho won the title in the scramble.

I hope Booker T debuts and beats down R-Truth. 

"THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE BLACK GUY ON SMACKDOWN, SUCKA"

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#60 Mu5uk0
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Someone could just beat up R-Truth in the back. Thats what they did to Punk when Jericho won the title in the scramble.

I hope Booker T debuts and beats down R-Truth. 

"THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE BLACK GUY ON SMACKDOWN, SUCKA"

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And then Cryme Time sneak away quietly.  

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#61 prostreet678
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Unless Edge is loosing his WM shot, I think it is safe to say Taker dropping the belt here.

I agree.

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#62 sephy37
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lol, John Cena is more black than Cryme Time.
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#63 lilhbk
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Booker T is back in the wwe?!?

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Rumor is ____ winning the SD Chamber...

[spoiler] John Morrison [/spoiler]

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#65 Razor-Lazor
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Source?
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Source?Razor-Lazor

He's the effing shaman of sexy. Its obvious. Logic is my source.

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[QUOTE="Razor-Lazor"]Source?sephy37

He's the effing shaman of sexy. Its obvious. Logic is my source.

I knew about the. ROGC I didn't know there was a JMGC.
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#68 Dark_Hylian8
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Im thinking that it will be HBK vs Edge here for the right to face Taker.
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[QUOTE="Razor-Lazor"]Source?sephy37

He's the effing shaman of sexy. Its obvious. Logic is my source.

Logic also told you Kofi Kingston was going to win the Royal Rumble, might want to re-evaluate the reliability of your logic.
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Im thinking that it will be HBK vs Edge here for the right to face Taker.Dark_Hylian8
The two opponents he had the best matches with, IMO.
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#71 Mu5uk0
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Im thinking that it will be HBK vs Edge here for the right to face Taker.Dark_Hylian8

Why would Edge agree to that? He already has the right to face Taker.

Also, Taker isn't winning the EC. 

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[QUOTE="Dark_Hylian8"]Im thinking that it will be HBK vs Edge here for the right to face Taker.Mu5uk0

Why would Edge agree to that? He already has the right to face Taker.

Also, Taker isn't winning the EC. 

It sounds logical, they both need matches.

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#73 Link256
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It makes lot more logical sense to keep Edge not wrestling much as possible. The dude suffered a serious injury. The dude came back from said serious injury early. From everything I have heard, it is the kind of injury that ends careers. The Rock suffered the same injury 3-4 years ago on the set of The Game Plan, and still is not the same.

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#74 SonicRenegade84
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To have.....

Taker/HBK II: Taker will need to lose, while HBK someway makes an impact on the Smackdown EC.

Edge/Jericho: Edge will need to cost Jericho the title at EC, while at the same time Jericho wins the EC :lol:.

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#75 sephy37
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To have.....

Taker/HBK II: Taker will need to lose, while HBK someway makes an impact on the Smackdown EC.

Edge/Jericho: Edge will need to cost Jericho the title at EC, while at the same time Jericho wins the EC :lol:.

SonicRenegade84

Edge doesn't need to do anything to Jericho. All Jericho has to do is win and Edge can pick him as the champ he wants to face. You're overthinking it.

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#76 Link256
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Elimination Chamber Update:

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Vacant WWE Divas Title
Maryse vs. Gail Kim

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Elimination Chamber Update:

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Intercontinental Title
Drew McIntyre (c) vs Kane

 

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Elimination Chamber Update:

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Intercontinental Title
Drew McIntyre (c) vs Kane

 

Dark_Hylian8
Well, at least it gives Kane something to do.
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#79 Dark_Hylian8
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Yeah, lose. By countout or DQ.
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#80 Link256
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Yeah, lose. By countout or DQ.Dark_Hylian8
That, or just plain loose.
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#81 Dark_Hylian8
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[QUOTE="Dark_Hylian8"]Yeah, lose. By countout or DQ.Link256
That, or just plain loose.

Cleanly to a heel Champion who is the underdog in the match? Unlikely. Either interference, countout, or DQ will happen here. Kane may be buried all the time on Smackdown, but not that badly.

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#83 Link256
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WWE is clearly high on McIntrye, and as you have already mentioned, the WWE is not above having Kane doing jobs, to put it lightly.

With that being said, I agree that interference, or some sort illegal tactic will most likely be involved in the decision.

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#84 SonicRenegade84
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Well, with all those matches placed, I have this going in....

RAW EC: Sheamus wins

Smackdown EC: Jericho wins

Gail vs Maryse: Maryse due to using a heel move on Gail

McIntyre vs Kane: Intyre RETAINS.

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#85 LEGOslayer
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Well, with all those matches placed, I have this going in....

RAW EC: Sheamus wins

Smackdown EC: Jericho wins

Gail vs Maryse: Maryse due to using a heel move on Gail

McIntyre vs Kane: Intyre RETAINS.

SonicRenegade84
I really hope WWE isn't stupid enough to allow Sheamus to main event any Wresltemania.
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#86 SonicRenegade84
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[QUOTE="SonicRenegade84"]

Well, with all those matches placed, I have this going in....

RAW EC: Sheamus wins

Smackdown EC: Jericho wins

Gail vs Maryse: Maryse due to using a heel move on Gail

McIntyre vs Kane: Intyre RETAINS.

LEGOslayer

I really hope WWE isn't stupid enough to allow Sheamus to main event any Wresltemania.

Only reason I say he wins is because this ppv will decide Sheamus' future. Will he win and go on to become a full-fledged main eventer? Or will he lose and end up at the bottom of the well and be forgotten before Wrestlemania comes around?

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#87 Dark_Hylian8
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Wrong. His future will decide his future, which is exactly where his first title reign should have started. The Future. As in, >6 months since debut future.
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#88 The_Dude14
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Honestly, I think WWE is committed to justifying this Sheamus Experiment and I'm afraid that means he keeps until Mania. I think he'd have lost by now if WWE weren't committed.

In other words, they are committed to failure.

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Latest from the rumor mill:

[spoiler] John Morrison to win, Morrison vs. Punk in a gimmick match at WM [/spoiler]

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Our EC Facts:

Total Chamber Matches to Date: 9
RAW EC: 6
SD! EC: 2 (One joint with ECW)
ECW EC: 2 (One joint with SD!)

Most Appearances in EC: Triple H and Chris Jericho (5)
Most Wins in EC: Triple H (4)
Most Appearances Without a Win: Chris Jericho (5)
Most Defended Title: World Heavyweight Championship (4)

Longest Elimination Chamber Match: Survivor Series 2002 (39:20)
Shortest Elimination Chamber Match: SummerSlam 2003 (19:12)
Longest Entry in Elimination Chamber Match: Triple H, Survivor Series 2002 (39:20)
Shortest Entry in Elimination Chamber Match: John Cena, No Way Out 2009 (1:29)

Most Successful Entry Number: 5 [Third to leave a chamber pod] (5 Wins)
Least Successful Entry Number: 2 [Starting the match] & 4 [Second to leave a chamber pod] (0 Wins)

Most EC Matches in Home Town: N/A (Randy Orton will become the first man to do this at the Elimination Chamber PPV)

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Just some more facts...

Where World titles are defended, There has been 7 EC that have had a world title on the line. 4WHC, 1ECW and 2WWE.

Out of those EC's, there has been only two successful title defences: Triple H in the 2nd EC and John Cena in the 4th EC.

There has been 4 title changes in EC: Shawn Michaels in the 1st, Bobby Lashley in the 5th, Triple H in the 8th and Edge in the 9th.

HHH and Cena have both entered the EC as the champion twice, more than anybody else.

Here is the list of eliminators since the 1st EC, along with the number of eliminations they have had:

Jericho (7) (special praise to Jericho for getting the most eliminations)

Triple H (6)

Taker (5)

Goldberg (3)

Carlito (3)

HBK (3)

Batista (3)

Test (2)

Lashley (2)

Mysterio (2)

Edge (2)

J. Hardy (1)

Booker T (1)

Orton (1)

Masters (1)

Cena (1)

RVD (1)

Finlay (1)

(pretty strange that Cena has had more successful defences and only one elimination)

There has been eight eliminations that have required multiple finisher moves.

Before there was two EC's on a PPV, New York was the place for the most EC's, two (2002 and 2006).

Kane should be noted for having the worst luck in EC, having appeared in three, no wins (having been eliminated 3rd in 2002, 2nd in 2006 and 1st last year) and no eliminations.

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I've only seen, in full length, the 2002, 2003, 2005 and 2006 Elimination Chamber matches. I have yet to see the other EC matches. I have no desire to see the ECW Chamber match since I know it has crap written all over it.
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#93 Razor-Lazor
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I've only seen, in full length, the 2002, 2003, 2005 and 2006 Elimination Chamber matches. I have yet to see the other EC matches. I have no desire to see the ECW Chamber match since I know it has crap written all over it.KevyR
Last year's were great. You should check them out.
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#94 KevyR
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[QUOTE="KevyR"]I've only seen, in full length, the 2002, 2003, 2005 and 2006 Elimination Chamber matches. I have yet to see the other EC matches. I have no desire to see the ECW Chamber match since I know it has crap written all over it.Razor-Lazor
Last year's were great. You should check them out.

Yeah I heard they were pretty good. I'll have a look at the No Way Out DVD sometime soon or wherever I can see it for "free."
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#95 sephy37
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Ever since they started doing EC at No Way Out, all the SD chambers were better than the Raw ones. I'd recommend checking those out.
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My take on the Elimination Chambers:

1. 2002: Its the first and, IMO, still the best. It drags a little in between RVD's elimination, until it comes down to HBK-Triple H, but when it gets to HBK-Triple H it defines epic. You gotta give props to Trips for his effort in the match, turning in one of his finest performances of the year with his throat crushed. The pops at the end of this match rank as some of the loudest I've ever heard translate to DVD.

2. Raw Elimination Chamber 2008: I have a hard time not putting this one at #1, because just about everything works, IMO. I think it is simply the intangibles that put 02 over it, IMO. You start with HBK-Jericho and they give you a taste of what it to come from them. Umaga turns in the performance of his career (and, sadly, life, RIP) as the dominant moster. JBL does nothing to diminish the match. Hardy turns in his obligatory fall off a tall thing, but also turns in a quality performance as the hottest thing going in WWE at the timea, and Trips is no slouch here either, he gives Hardy a lot (he let him kick out of the f'n PEDIGREE!), making Hardy look much better than he did when he actually beat Trips at Armageddon. Its not the belt, its not for a title, otherwise it may be #1. I also really would have liked to see more HBK-Hardy in the match. That was a missed opportunity.

3. Raw Elimination Chamber 2009: Why in the hell did it take WWE so long to put Rey in an Elimination Chamber? Rey is, without a doubt in my mind, the MVP of the match and produces a highlight reel of stuff in the course of the match. This one starts with Rey-Jericho and they carry the match almost all the way to the end. Of all the guys out of place in the Chambers for this year (Knox, Kozlov, Kane and Show), Knox probably acquits himself the best, surprisingly. And when it gets down to Rey-Edge, its just perfect face-heel and Rey-Edge give the match that I've been expecting them to give but they never seemed to do.

4. Smackdown Elimination Chamber 2009: There is one glaring flaw with this match. His name is Kozlov. It starts off all good with Hardy-Edge and the surprise elimination, then Kozlov enters and the fun is over for a long while. The pieces get picked up by the end and gets especially good when it comes down to Trips and Taker, who don't always perform well against each other, but they do here.

5. 2005: This is a very solid Chamber match, overall, which it had to be because the show around it was atrocious. Coin-flip between this one and the first one for the best talent roster to appear in a Chamber (but guys like Benoit and Jericho don't really seem to benefit from the Chamber the way RVD or Rey did). It served its purpose, advancing a bunch of stories (Edge-HBK, Trips-Orton, Trips-Batista), but it lacks the standout moments and sequences of the above matches. Plus, it was all pretty perfunctory, Trips getting another Title win (Wasn't this for a vacated title), while Benoit and Jericho were largely non-factors beyond bringing workrate.

6. 2003: Your opinion on this match probably hinges upon your opinion of Bill Goldberg. I'm sure many can't get by the way Goldberg mows through Jericho, HBK and Orton. There's also the fact that Triple H ridiculously retains, despite being injured, which made it a Chamber in the first place, making everyone but Goldberg and the H non-factors. The match also largely ignores a lot of its potential. However, I find the match to be flawed but fun. This was as over as Goldberg got in WWE and, while the booking may repulse many, watching Goldberg wreck folks was a lot of fun, it played to his strengths, and the crowd dug it. It was the type of stuff that got Golberg over in the first place that WWE never seemed to understand. Triple H retaining remains a HUGE mistake, though.

7. Smackdown Elimination Chamber 2008: Gah, who's idea was it to put Khali and Big Daddy V in a Chamber match? Although, honestly, V gives a good accounting for himself. Better than poor MVP. They make a good move by building this match around Taker-Batista, as those two, inexplicably, seem to bring the best out of each other. Finlay takes some gruesome punishment, as well.

8. 2006: The most memorable part of this match isn't even part of this match, that being Edge cashing in MITB. While it may not be as bad as a match dominated by Chris Masters and Carlito sounds on paper, it is simply nowhere near as memorable as the other matches are and a Chamber should be. It is seriously forgotten two minutes later when Edge is wearing the belt (kind of like Edge's loss to a 100 year old man earlier that night).

9. "Extreme" Elimination Chamber: Ugh, I'm just better off not getting started. One of the best decisions I ever made was not going to this show.

I think that's all of them.

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#97 Razor-Lazor
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Ever since they started doing EC at No Way Out, all the SD chambers were better than the Raw ones. I'd recommend checking those out.sephy37
I haven't seen either, but was the SmackDown EC at NWO 2008 actually better than Raw's? I mean, SmackDown's had 'Taker and MVP, but it also had Batista, Khali, Big Daddy V, and Finlay. Raw's on the other hand, had JBL and Umaga as its cons, but for pros, it had Jericho, Michaels, Jeff Hardy, and Triple H.

I'm not doubting you, I'm just having a hard time believing that SD's was better than Raw's that night.

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Ever since they started doing EC at No Way Out, all the SD chambers were better than the Raw ones. I'd recommend checking those out.sephy37
2008: Smackdown EC: Taker vs Batista vs Big Daddy V vs Khali vs Finlay vs MVP
Raw EC: HBK vs Y2J vs Umaga vs JBL vs Jeff Hardy vs Triple H

I vehemently disagree.

2009: Smackdown EC: Edge vs Hardy vs KOZLOV vs Big Show vs Taker vs Trips
Raw EC: Rey vs Jericho vs Kane vs Knox vs Edge vs John Cena

I disagree with less intensity.

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2008 had Big Daddy V, you proved my point. SD is always better.
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I haven't seen either, but was the SmackDown EC at NWO 2008 actually better than Raw's? I mean, SmackDown's had 'Taker and MVP, but it also had Batista, Khali, Big Daddy V, and Finlay. Raw's on the other hand, had JBL and Umaga as its cons, but for pros, it had Jericho, Michaels, Jeff Hardy, and Triple H.

I'm not doubting you, I'm just having a hard time believing that SD's was better than Raw's that night.Razor-Lazor

MVP was in the match for, like, 2 minutes before Taker MDK'ed him out.

And Umaga was not a negative for Raw's Chamber. He was ON that night.