WWEv Weekly - RAW, ECW, iMPACT!, SmackDown: WEEK 35

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#2 mrgab
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Time for Cena to go heel and HHH to take his title away... its bound to happen someday.
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#3 SeriousThreat
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If their really gonna try to have Cena/Trips happen right now, they might as well turn Cena heel. Thats just not gonna work.
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#4 mrgab
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Back to heel for Umaga, that was fast. Wonder if Carlito will go face and tag with Jeff to fight Kennedy and Umaga then.
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#5 wallymartin
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McMahon saying that Kennedy walks funny was rather, well, funny. :P
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#6 mrgab
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Just made my night, HHH's segment, especially the part with Carlito's sister

Already sick of this Cody Rhodes

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#7 Sponge_Fighter2
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Anybody else heard "Wrestling is Fake" chants during Carlito's Cabana?
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#8 mrgab
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O great, Linda McMahon will be on raw next week :roll:
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#9 Jackov
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Added the new ECW banner.
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#10 The_Dude14
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O great, Linda McMahon will be on raw next week :roll:mrgab
That should come with a Public Service Announcement. No one should be operating heavy machinery when she appears. Its dangerous.
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#11 Link256
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Added the new ECW banner.Jackov
Anyone but Punk... or The Miz. I am tired all of these constant Punk-Morrison matches. As bad Boogeyman as is, at least the guy would be change of pace. Obviously, I cannot same thing for CM Punk. In regards, The Miz, as far as I am concerned, he just plain sucks and while same could be said for Boogey, he is lot more "colorful" than Miz.

While I am not the biggest fan of Big Daddy V (or the name), the guy, outside of Punk (who, I have already stated my problem with), I would consider him to be better worker than Miz or Boogey. That, and in similar to the Boogey-Miz comparison, I would say he has more "interesting" (colorful) appeal than Miz. For that matter, most anyone does... when I think of boring, I think of Miz.

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#12 Link256
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O great, Linda McMahon will be on raw next week :roll:mrgab

As far as I am concerned, the only thing appealing about Linda is her use of the classic Wrestlemania theme. It rules.

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#13 Jackov
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The new SmackDown banner is up! BOOYAKA ('n' chit)!
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#14 lilhomes
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Look at the belly on rey haha.
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#15 The_Dude14
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Well, I didn't watch Raw. I got in late and when I flipped to Sci-Fi literally the second Triple H's theme hit. In the ring, Vince and Carlito stood, sheer instinct took over and I changed over to South Park and never looked back.

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#16 Link256
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[spoiler] Credit: Doug Metcalf & PWInsider.com

- Highlanders vs. Johnny Jeter and Ryan O'Reilly. The Highlanders win a squash in 7 minutes.

- Jillian Hall came out to sing. She was interrupted by and had a match with Mickey James. There was a nice electric chair spot and decent heat for Jillian, followed by "Let's go Mickey" chants. James won with the Mick Kick.

- Hacksaw Duggan vs. Jimmy Jack Cash was next. Sorry, but why is Hacksaw wrestling? They released Daniel Puder but keep paying Hacksaw? Ok, Hacksaw won.

- The Sandman vs. Mike Edwards. You can't let Sandman do arm drags and wrestle. It was sad to watch. I miss Philly Sandman. Sandman won.

- Snitsky vs. Super Crazy. It was a 5 star match, that is if your scale is out of 100. Snitsky wins. [/spoiler]
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- Hacksaw Duggan vs. Jimmy Jack Cash was next. Sorry, but why is Hacksaw wrestling? They released Daniel Puder but keep paying Hacksaw? Link256
Of all the people WWE has released (and if you've forgotten any, just tune into TNA for a reminder), this guy thinks that Daniel ****ing Puder is the one that should still be around?
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#18 Rage11
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Decent Raw IMO, it's good to have Triple H back around.
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#19 JC346
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Triple H looks great for being out for 8 months.

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#20 bulletproofcow
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[QUOTE="Link256"]

- Hacksaw Duggan vs. Jimmy Jack Cash was next. Sorry, but why is Hacksaw wrestling? They released Daniel Puder but keep paying Hacksaw? The_Dude14
Of all the people WWE has released (and if you've forgotten any, just tune into TNA for a reminder), this guy thinks that Daniel ****ing Puder is the one that should still be around?

I think he said that simply because Puder was released most recently.

I only watched the Kennedy/Hardy match, as that was as much as my girlfriend could watch before wanting to change the channel.

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#21 wallymartin
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That was the first Raw I've watched in 6 months, and it still seemed like the same old thing. I missed out on half of a year of this stuff, I want to feel like I actually missed something. It's not a good sign for WWE that someone can skip their program for so long without feeling the need to watch. That's why their ratings are down.
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[QUOTE="The_Dude14"][QUOTE="Link256"]

- Hacksaw Duggan vs. Jimmy Jack Cash was next. Sorry, but why is Hacksaw wrestling? They released Daniel Puder but keep paying Hacksaw? bulletproofcow

Of all the people WWE has released (and if you've forgotten any, just tune into TNA for a reminder), this guy thinks that Daniel ****ing Puder is the one that should still be around?

I think he said that simply because Puder was released most recently.

I only watched the Kennedy/Hardy match, as that was as much as my girlfriend could watch before wanting to change the channel.

Puder was fired like two years ago....

Does he mean Dan Rodimer?

But didn't Rodimer quit becuase he got hurt andwas making less money then the job he had before?

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#23 fan211
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You know something? TNA is awful, nothing is good, I liked TNA when there was different champions now it Angle this, Angle that. And the best talent is like bowing down to the bad talent. TNA Mobile is awful as well, why doesn't TNA do this, "Do you Hate TNA? Text....something, something" Probably that should get new ratings.....well with the phone. And Pacman Jones?! Getting a push?! Well bring another wrestler and name him Ghost.

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#24 bulletproofcow
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[QUOTE="bulletproofcow"]

[QUOTE="The_Dude14"][QUOTE="Link256"]

- Hacksaw Duggan vs. Jimmy Jack Cash was next. Sorry, but why is Hacksaw wrestling? They released Daniel Puder but keep paying Hacksaw? TheGm86

Of all the people WWE has released (and if you've forgotten any, just tune into TNA for a reminder), this guy thinks that Daniel ****ing Puder is the one that should still be around?

I think he said that simply because Puder was released most recently.

I only watched the Kennedy/Hardy match, as that was as much as my girlfriend could watch before wanting to change the channel.

Puder was fired like two years ago....

Does he mean Dan Rodimer?

But didn't Rodimer quit becuase he got hurt andwas making less money then the job he had before?

Damn I'm out of it. Heres hoping he did, or else I look like a bigger asshat.
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#25 Link256
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-After RAW went off the air, the medical crew continued to work on John Cena's father. His father was eventually taken off on a stretcher with Cena walking by his side. As they left, Randy Orton returned to the ring and said that he was supposed to have a WWE Title match but now that Cena is busy with other things, the ref should raise his hand and declare him champion. Lillian Garcia was about to make the announcement when Triple H's music hit and he came down. Orton and Triple H had a match with Triple H winning via the Pedigree. Triple H then posed for awhile and also took time to give hand shakes and fives to all the fans around ringside and the fans along the ramp. [Credit: 411mania.com]

-WWE.com reports that John Cena's father suffered a cut under his eye from Randy Orton's kick on RAW and was held overnight at the hospital. Cena's father does have a background in wrestling as he has been working the New England indie scene as a manager for awhile now. [Credit: PWInsider.com]

-WWE.com has another update on John Cena's father, stating he has a "Grade III concussion" but did not suffer any brain damage. [Credit: PWInsider.com]

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#26 Stargazmo69
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Can someone please tell me the ACTUAL ECW theme song? There is a new theme every week.

Can someone aslo tell me why Morrison sucks on the mic so much?

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#27 Link256
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Can someone aslo tell me why Morrison sucks on the mic so much?

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As far as I am concerned, in regards tonight, he came off as fourth rate version of The Rock.

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#28 tman93
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Morrison is great on the mic, his lines arnt.
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#29 Stargazmo69
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I dunno, IMO he doesn't deliver his lines with any conviction at all. Whenever he speaks i cringe, but I guess that could be because of his awful lines. Tuesday night delight hahaha. The Miz line did make me laugh though.
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#30 tman93
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I really like this Balls/Kelly/Miz thing fude. Im sure it will lead to the break up to extrem expose or something, and a matchat Unforgiven between Balls and Miz.

Its actually a fun little fude.

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#31 tman93
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Wow, couldnt they just give him the title two days ago?

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#32 fan211
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^Because Punk is the new Batista.
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#33 Stargazmo69
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But you know whats not a fun little fued Tman? CM Punk and Morrison III. This is getting ridiculous, don't get me wrong I love Punk, but enough is enough with their fued I don't feel like watching them have matches anymore. Did anyone else find it kind of weird that Boogeyman was out for 70% of the match because the Miz kneed him? That one knee knocked Boogeyman out for practically the entire match and left CM Punk to just wail on Miz. Bad main event IMO not a great ECW overall. A bit too many commercials to, or was it just me?
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#34 The_Dude14
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Well, maybe the 13th time will be the charm for Punk. Or is it 14th? I've lost count.

I'm not entirely sure why that needed to be a 4-Way, as it was pretty much CM Punk vs Mizanin when it mattered, with Boogeyman just disappearing for most of the match (not complaining about that), while V removed himself. I'm not trying to complain, its just a curious choice when 2 of the guys were non-factors for more than half of the match.

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#35 Stargazmo69
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Well, maybe the 13th time will be the charm for Punk. Or is it 14th? I've lost count.

I'm not entirely sure why that needed to be a 4-Way, as it was pretty much CM Punk vs Mizanin when it mattered, with Boogeyman just disappearing for most of the match (not complaining about that), while V removed himself. I'm not trying to complain, its just a curious choice when 2 of the guys were non-factors for more than half of the match.

The_Dude14

Exactly! Why is Miz even in the main event scene? Get Burke and Dreamer in there and take Miz and Boogeyman out.

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Raw was alot of fun last night, I like it alot, the Triple H and Vince Segment on Calito's Cabana was funny as hell, I laughed so hard, I mean you knew that is where Triple H was going with it, and i'm talking about Vince loving, well you know.......... Co#$.

WWE did a good job placing Umagaas theIC Champion, I was a little surprised when I heard Jeff Hardy's music, but at least now Umaga will face Jeff at Unforgivin, I just kindof had a really funny feeling that Umaga was going to do that.

Randy Orton still will hopefully get another shot against Cena, only this time, Orton will win and hold the Championship for a while maybe till Royal Rumble or so, and have Kenndey or Triple H taketha Championship from Orton.

ECW was better this week just 'cause I liked how Morrison talked on the mic, even though having all of these fummy nicknames are kindof stupid, he can roleplay but stop calling yourself all these funny nicknames.

Balls Mohoney, The Miz, andKelly Kelly feud is getting better, and better, I also enjoyed the Richards Vs. Thorn rivaly will not end tonight if anything this will put more gasonto the fire.

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Anyone think that ECW is alot better thanRaw/Smackdown nowadays? Now that HHH and Rey returned/ and me may see a new WWE title holder that may change (Its gets repetive, not that I dont like Cena.
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Their going to put the belt back on HHH. Trips injury is the only reason why Cena has held the belt for so long, it was on rental.
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Anyone think that ECW is alot better thanRaw/Smackdown nowadays? Now that HHH and Rey returned/ and me may see a new WWE title holder that may change (Its gets repetive, not that I dont like Cena.tman93

Umm no, ECW is a lot worse, RAW isnt that much better overall but at least has some ok parts like HHH/Vince segment which was funny, especially with Carlitos sister part.

Actually why even having this past weeks ECW main match, dont think there was a person anywhere in the world that didnt know Punk was going to win... in that match, what happened to Boogeyman? I can see Big Daddy V falling and doing his turtle impression where he cant get up once he falls on his back.

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From everything I've read about the Triple H segment on Raw, I'd wager John Cena could have done the exact same segment and you guys would rip on it like there was no tomorrow. It may have to do with the deliverary of it all but I think it has more to do with the Lord and Savior of the WWE returning. He could have shown up and literally pissed on the audience and many would have thought it was the greatest segment since Sliced Bread #2. Nothing I've read about the segment has made me regret in the slightest skipping it.

As long as he has that belt, I really don't think there's any way Cena can win over the haters. He could go out and put on, literally, the greatest wrestling match of all time and people would still say he sucked, was carried through the match and be pissed off that he won.

Anyone think that ECW is alot better thanRaw/Smackdown nowadays? Now that HHH and Rey returned/ and me may see a new WWE title holder that may change (Its gets repetive, not that I dont like Cena.tman93
I think it kinda works along the same lines as my theory about TNA's abberation of good shows towards the end of their FSN run and on the internet. They don't care. They don't care, so they don't bother to really cook up anything elaborate, they give the guys simple, easy to follow stories (CM Punk's quest for the belt, Balls/Mizanin/Kelly, Thorne can't beat Stevie)and let them wrestle it out. Because they don't care, Vince mostly stays away freeing up TV time for there to be more quality wrestling on ECW than there is on Raw. Its become kinda like Velocity, except it doesn't quite have the talent Velocity had going for it.

I'd definately like to see a changeup thrown for the ECW match at Unforgiven. Since ECW is only allowed a maximum of one match per PPV, hows about allowing more than just Punk and Nitro to get that exposure. Next week, Nitro complains to Estrada about Punk being #1 Contender... again and how he's beaten him, like, 37 times. Estrada agrees, but says that he cannot revoke Punk's Title shot, but then states that it won't be Punk vs Nitro at the PPV. Instead it'll be a 4-way elimination match and makes two matches to determine the other 2 participants. It's pretty much the RVD-EEC D2D (figure that one out) story all over again, but whatever, the worst part about that story was that Lashley ended up with the belt in a craptacular match that saw the only two guys people were interested in among the first 3 eliminations. It can come down to Nitro vs Punk anyway with the Elimination rule, but get some other guys involved. I'd make the two matches for the other entrants Stevie vs Kevin Thorne, with Stevie scoring another upset to really piss Thorne off, and Balls vs Mizanin vs Burke, bringing together that story, with Burke advancing, allowing Balls vs Mizanin to have even more reason to be after each other. Then, you've got Nitro vs Punk vs Stevie vs Burke for the ECW Title, which would at least be a little different than another Nitro vs Punk. It'd also give you some more matches to play with leading up to the PPV. Just throwing out some Wednsday morning booking, but I thought it would make for a more interesting match.

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#41 Link256
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From everything I've read about the Triple H segment on Raw, I'd wager John Cena could have done the exact same segment and you guys would rip on it like there was no tomorrow. It may have to do with the deliverary of it all but I think it has more to do with the Lord and Savior of the WWE returning. He could have shown up and literally pissed on the audience and many would have thought it was the greatest segment since Sliced Bread #2. Nothing I've read about the segment has made me regret in the slightest skipping it.

The_Dude14

I thought segment (as whole) was decent, however, nothing I would call "amazing."

In regards to your comments about John Cena, I would say it depends. In the past, I have mentioned, on more than one occasion, that one of John Cena's biggest problem is his delivery. In general, it feels forced. However, I would say in the past 2 weeks, as far as I am concerned, so far, the guy has been noticeable improved, from both standpoint of delivery and script writing, and while Triple H was surprisingly good this past week (as far as I am concerned, it had due with delivery --- I could care less about the hype surrounding the guy), in that regard, I would put him no higher than John Cena. For that matter, I would say they are about even.

By the way, for whatever it is worth, as far as I am concerned, despite its flaws, I would say the segement involving Orton-Vince-Cena, from last week, was more entertaining than one involving Vince-Carlito-HHH.

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#42 Stargazmo69
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From everything I've read about the Triple H segment on Raw, I'd wager John Cena could have done the exact same segment and you guys would rip on it like there was no tomorrow. It may have to do with the deliverary of it all but I think it has more to do with the Lord and Savior of the WWE returning. He could have shown up and literally pissed on the audience and many would have thought it was the greatest segment since Sliced Bread #2. Nothing I've read about the segment has made me regret in the slightest skipping it.

The_Dude14

Yeah except HHH is actually funny. John Cena is like a soap opera actor, he over does every line and it's just not funny. He tries soooooo hard, jokes aren't supposed to be forced, which is why the Rock and Chris Jericho had such great mic skills, they were very natural on the mic and they didn't over-do any of their jokes. I'm not a John Cena 'hater' so to speak, but I just want the John Cena fans to understand why people get annoyed with him. It's good to understand both sides of the argument.

In terms of the segment itself, in my opinion I don't really think is was as funny as a lot of people are making it out to be. I mean I chuckled a few times because there were some funny lines and the music was hilarious, but it's not like it was the best segment ever.

And if anyone pissed on the audience, even John Cena it would be the funniest segment in the history of segments.

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#43 Stargazmo69
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Damnit Link I had to go to the bathroom was I was writing my post and you beat me to it....you've won this round.....

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#44 Link256
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Damnit Link I had to go to the bathroom was I was writing my post and you beat me to it....you've won this round.....

:x

Stargazmo69

If anything, while our comments similar, I would say you did better job of going of describing yourself (as in, among other things, going into detail) than I did. :wink:

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#45 iloverikku11
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I don't hate John Cena at all, but I would really like to see the title change ands to anyone.
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#46 General_Slaye
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I don't hate John Cena at all, but I would really like to see the title change ands to anyone.iloverikku11

Should happen at Unforgiven, it is most likely that Orton will get a rematch for the title.

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From everything I've read about the Triple H segment on Raw, I'd wager John Cena could have done the exact same segment and you guys would rip on it like there was no tomorrow. It may have to do with the deliverary of it all but I think it has more to do with the Lord and Savior of the WWE returning. He could have shown up and literally pissed on the audience and many would have thought it was the greatest segment since Sliced Bread #2. Nothing I've read about the segment has made me regret in the slightest skipping it.

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Yeah except HHH is actually funny. John Cena is like a soap opera actor, he over does every line and it's just not funny. He tries soooooo hard, jokes aren't supposed to be forced, which is why the Rock and Chris Jericho had such great mic skills, they were very natural on the mic and they didn't over-do any of their jokes. I'm not a John Cena 'hater' so to speak, but I just want the John Cena fans to understand why people get annoyed with him. It's good to understand both sides of the argument.

In terms of the segment itself, in my opinion I don't really think is was as funny as a lot of people are making it out to be. I mean I chuckled a few times because there were some funny lines and the music was hilarious, but it's not like it was the best segment ever.

And if anyone pissed on the audience, even John Cena it would be the funniest segment in the history of segments.

Oh come on. "Everyone's done it with Carlito's sister"...Cena uses those same kinds of jokes and people bash them. I do understand why people are fed up with Cena, but IMO this is just another example of blind hating, or just going along with the fad for booing/hating Cena. It was very evident at SummerSlam while minutes after Batista, that's right, Batista gets a standing ovation, Cena is nearly booed out of the building.

John Cena on the mic is basically a Rock version 2. Same types of jokes, immature childish cracks at other wrestlers. Except The Rock is seen as a great comedian to fans and Cena is just "attracting young kids". And you're saying Cena over does lines while Triple H brought back the "Vince loves c0cks" joke Monday night? Like that's fresh hilarious stuff there right? While I do agree Triple H can be funny on the mic, Cena has proven he's a lot better. I don't remember Cena overdoing any lines in the past few months. The farthest back I can remember is his ho jokes on Lita during his feud with Edge.

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#48 Link256
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Oh come on. "Everyone's done it with Carlito's sister"...Cena uses those same kinds of jokes and people bash them. I do understand why people are fed up with Cena, but IMO this is just another example of blind hating, or just going along with the fad for booing/hating Cena. It was very evident at SummerSlam while minutes after Batista, that's right, Batista gets a standing ovation, Cena is nearly booed out of the building.

John Cena on the mic is basically a Rock version 2. Same types of jokes, immature childish cracks at other wrestlers. Except The Rock is seen as a great comedian to fans and Cena is just "attracting young kids". And you're saying Cena over does lines while Triple H brought back the "Vince loves c0cks" joke Monday night? Like that's fresh hilarious stuff there right? While I do agree Triple H can be funny on the mic, Cena has proven he's a lot better. I don't remember Cena overdoing any lines in the past few months. The farthest back I can remember is his ho jokes on Lita during his feud with Edge.

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The difference is delivery (as in, not what is said --- its how something is said). Triple H and The Rock can, where as John Cena, more often tha not, cannot --- end of story.

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Now hold the phone The Rock Triple H and Cena are all funny in their own way.

The Rock liked to shine things up, and turn it sideways, and sticks stuff up their monkey a$#.

Triple H likes to say stuff like S*ck it, and Vince loves C#cks.

And Cena Likes to Ryhme stuff and make sick jokes like saying Carlito likes to eat Bananas than Apples.

So everybody has their own way to make people laugh.

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- WWE RAW did a 3.2 rating on Monday, down from a 3.7 last week. The drop is largely due to the show airing on Sci-Fi. The show did hours of 3.0 and 3.3. The RAW replay that aired on USA Network at 11PM ET did a 1.0 rating off hours of 1.1 and 0.9.

- The US Open, airing in RAW's Monday night timeslot, did a 1.0 rating.

- ECW On Sci-Fi did a 1.3 rating on Tuesday night, down from a 1.7 the previous week.

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