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I actually agree with him.
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http://news.filefront.com/sesslers-soapbox-is-tired-of-the-bigots-on-xbox-live/
I actually agree with him.
First time I've agreed with Adam Sessler in a long time...MajorSport
Me too. Normally I cannot stand Adam Sessler, but I completely agree with him. That's the main reason why I don't play multi-player games on XBL other than Uno.
Sessler?! Not sarcastic??? Where's the jokes?
EDIT: Anyways, it really isn't that much of a problem. I honestly haven't heard too many offensive things on Xbox Live, and if I do, I'm most likely the one to have started it. And I won't change my ways either. Sessler forgot the first rule of the internet...
I agree with everything he said, not that any of it was news to me. I liked this part:
That's not how you're shocking. You're shocking by turning a clever phrase, not by throwing a bunch of hideous racist and homophobic slurs at anyone within earshot.
Sessler
Of course, people being loud-mouthed jerks is endemic to the entire online experience. Peoples' interupt between their brain and mouth vanishes when there are no consequences. In the real world, there's consequences: Getting fired from a job, getting thrown out of a store, or getting your nose broken. The worst thing that happens to anyone online is they get a forum account suspended, and it's not like there's a shortage of forums.
I don't really hear that much of this stuff when I play on Live. Pretty much the only thing I do play is Team Fortress. I've always held up its community as a bastion of maturity and a model for the more popular games to follow. Sessler's video only supports this belief in my mind.
Its a big difference between trash talking and just acting ignorant.
Ill trash talk sometimes if somebody gets on my nerves but ill never say anything that just goes too far.
Most of the crap I hear over XBL is crap against Americans... mostly by Brits... I wholeheartedly agree with him.Sessler?! Not sarcastic??? Where's the jokes?
EDIT: Anyways, it really isn't that much of a problem. I honestly haven't heard too many offensive things on Xbox Live, and if I do, I'm most likely the one to have started it. And I won't change my ways either. Sessler forgot the first rule of the internet...
GodLovesDead
[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]Most of the crap I hear over XBL is crap against Americans... mostly by Brits... I wholeheartedly agree with him.Sessler?! Not sarcastic??? Where's the jokes?
EDIT: Anyways, it really isn't that much of a problem. I honestly haven't heard too many offensive things on Xbox Live, and if I do, I'm most likely the one to have started it. And I won't change my ways either. Sessler forgot the first rule of the internet...
MattUD1
Interesting video.
I have my own theory on why people behave this way however.
As Adam Sessler said, he was called a pretty offensive word by someone who sounded like they were 10 years old. 10. Now think about that for a second. That 10 year old probably lives with their parents or some other form of guardian. They're also undoubtedly a minor. Kids tend to rebel against conventional standards that adults and society as a whole consider to be ethical and moral. Either perhaps as a way of getting back, or, here's a good one, it's been pent up in them so long they release it when no one's looking on people online, due to the internet's ability to have you remain "anonymous", as was said.
Now imagine a kid like that saying those things to their mother. They would get a spanking right quick or some other form of punishment. I'd rather not delve into the issue of parenting, but I feel parents these days have gotten really soft. This behavior typically goes unnoticed by the parent, and once they find out they can get away with it, they'll keep doing it. It's well known fact. It's like a criminal: They find they can get away with a crime at the time, they'll keep doing it because they know they won't be caught.
I won't go out of my way to say it's all young kids either doing this, I've heard some pretty nasty talk from 18 year olds, 21 year olds, even people as old as 30, on Xbox Live. These are the people who are supposed to be setting an example for the young people - oh, they're REALLY setting a good example alright. I wouldn't be surprised if they were the ones causing these kids to do this. It's like saying a racial slur to a young child - you keep saying it in their presence, they'll repeat you later.
At the same time, generalizing all 10 year olds or whatever demographic they are, as ALL like that, is also wrong. This also breeds offensive language, especially in a competitive environment such as online gaming. Which brings me to the whole issue of online gaming: It's not just Xbox Live. It never was. Though the video was about Xbox Live in particular, he made mention of PC gaming, and sadly it's true - it happens just as much with PC gaming and with any other console play I would imagine. Probably even more so with PC gaming, just in a different form. Not everyone may have a headset, but I assure you everyone has a keyboard, and will use that as their insultive weapon.
This is exactly part of the reason I got out of Xbox Live and online gaming in general a while back. If you try to make intelligent conversation with anyone out there, probably 75% of the time they're going to be one of these people. It's a sad but true fact. If I ever do online gaming, I remain totally silent.
Either way, good video, and good post. Brings up a good discussion on a serious issue.
I don't particulary like how he singled out Live. He should play some PSN and do some online PC gaming, it's no different than Live.Soda-Jack
Actually, I've played them all, Live is by far the worst.
[QUOTE="Soda-Jack"]I don't particulary like how he singled out Live. He should play some PSN and do some online PC gaming, it's no different than Live.Mau-Justice
Actually, I've played them all, Live is by far the worst.
I'd have to agree. Somehow the Live headset lobotomises it's wearer, cutting their mental age in half
I don't particulary like how he singled out Live. He should play some PSN and do some online PC gaming, it's no different than Live.Soda-Jack
I don't think he singled it out. He started with it to have a specific example and a frame of reference. If you listen to his wording, he starts with XBL but references online in general.
Perhaps this an issue that affects people differently. For me, the ranting and unsound chatter you find whilst gaming on live has no affect on me. I could care less, what is said to me and moreover, who is saying it. I'll be damn*d if I'm going to let a few mindless idiots hinder my experience while I'm on live.
As a female gamer, I retain my fair-share of comments from boisterous 12 yr. olds that have probably never even touched a woman, but it doesn't bother me. They can call me a b*tch or any other profanity they can conjure up within their joke of a vocabulary, but it will not force me to waiver or completely check my character at the door and reply to such things.
These types of individuals, are seeking to invoke anger from you, why give them the satisfaction of acknowledging they successfully did so. This is life! There will always be some uneducated drone, whether it be on live or in your day to day life, that will seek, to bring you down to their level and for the life of me, I'll never understand why people let them do so.
Well, i'm English and i get a lot of **** on Xbox live. Xbox live is the main culprit, but only because it comeswith voice chat so easily accessible with the inclusion of the headset in the box. I'm not saying we don't give it back because i also hear English kids being racist and ignorant. To be honest, i don't often go on live anymore because im sick of it in general. readingfc_1
GOD I HATE THAT THE MOST. i for one think its cool to play with people from other countrys but then i get some D bag on my team who screams out brit, or wet back, or Chink God i hate that.
saw it yesterday. and yeah i agree too. people should have to take a test to get an xbox 360 mic.http://news.filefront.com/sesslers-soapbox-is-tired-of-the-bigots-on-xbox-live/
I actually agree with him.
kurama2002
This is the main reason I rarely use a headset during online play UNLESS I'm in a party of friends, I'm in private chat or if there is a chance the players might not act like idiots. I play games like RBSV2 (and similiar games that wouldn't appeal to young'uns) a good bit because you NEVER find them on. Mainly becuase they only pick up on the huge, hyped games.
CoD 4, Halo 3, Gears of War (although, that's gotten better) and GTA IV are ones to avoid.
Whether everyone wants to admit it or not everyone is racist in some way and some people take a holier then thou approach and say they are better then everyone else even though they are guilty of the same thingsvideokidandrewYou either believe your skin color is superior to another skin color, or you don't. That is racism... What you are talking about is prejudiced.
I think we can all agree that public forum + open mic = smacktard
So let's turn this discussion into something a little more constructive. What do you do to handle it? I think one of the worse things you can do is give in and not game online anymore. The signal that sends to the offenders is that their tactics actually work. They got a rise out of you and forced you offline.
I would think it more useful to use the tools MS provides us:
Using these items, I have rarely run into bad apple in the past couple years.
Any other suggestions?
not a big fan of adam sessler... he always seemed a bit odd to me, but I tolerate him because I love xplay. Thank god someone with some sort of mouthpiece said this... good for him.
A new found respect for adam sessler. I also do not want to be lumped in with these idiots.
I agree with everything he said, not that any of it was news to me. I liked this part:
[quote="Sessler"]
That's not how you're shocking. You're shocking by turning a clever phrase, not by throwing a bunch of hideous racist and homophobic slurs at anyone within earshot.
Palantas
Seriously... A witty comment > anything. Nothing shuts someone up quite like a quick whiff of intelligence once and a while.
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