Im Losing it over Cod4, I hope IW dosent make another Cod EVER!.

Playing anyone outside of you continent is pathetic, Imo they should of done what Insomniac did, Have local servers only for a while from launch and until the netcode was up to scratch then put global serves in via an update, Basicaly the game is broken and never should of shipped the way it did, Im also assuming that Activtion is not using dedicated serves and if thats is the case then shame on them, If Ea which is now the second biggist 3rd party publisher can have dedicated servers on all games then i cant see why Activision cant either and with them becoming ActiBlizzard i dont see why this isnt possible.

Atm the disc gets a good work out as a freezbee around the room every now and then, I just want to snap the disc in half sometimes but i aint that stupid, Im very dissapointed in any company who was apart of this product, Its has a 6hr sp campain which while amazing still makes me feel ripped off, The Mp as said before is complety broken and the stat system is worth nothing, If we had no lag ever my stats would be diffrent, Im at 1.95 kills per death but the lag kills me alot, I think honestly i would be in the mid to high twos, My stats i shoot with are 18.99% hit ratio, I know im better than that, I know i would be in mid twentys, I dont live in the Us which makes it even more painful, I live in Australia and if you not playing the locals you going to get a orange light at best.

I lost all respect for Iw, Activtion and Ms, The game is broken in alot of ways, Cod3 pretty much had no lag and when it did it wasnt that big of a problem, Also what gets me angry is the frame rate problems in the Mp, It actually stutters which i find shocking, Personaly im happy Iw wont be developing the next one, I found that Cod3 was pretty good and at least it had the basics down unlike Cod4.

I put this game, The Employees and even the Janitor in the building in the hall of shame, This game is PATHETIC.

Edit:

I also just broke my wireless headset because i just threw it at the ground, Im using the disc as a frisbee now and then and the controller is pretty strong so ill use that and pretend its Iw and bash it on the ground.

Also forgot got to mention that when it does work the game is the best, Imo if it ran well from the start and with a little bit of tweaking here and there over time it could of been one of the best if not the best mp around, This is why im really angry about it, I wonder if the Ps3 version is better online?.

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

mmackura

Ok thats fine, But what about everybodys stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

[QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

truegamer10111

Ok thats fine, But what about everybody stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

[QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

truegamer10111

Ok thats fine, But what about everybodys stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

So you want the stats to have a value to them? like what for instance? achievements?.... it was a goal of IW to not associate achievements w/ MP...

And your stats do have a value.. good stats = more kills/wins = more xp = new weapons unlocked/ level up.... I don't see your problem with the stats...

your just pissed off about the lag, same problem that we've all been having to deal with....

[QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

sarmini

Ok thats fine, But what about everybody stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

If you read my post, I have a kill death ratio of 1.89 and hit rate of 18.99% with a win ratio of like 99% wins, I dont know if these numbers suck but when you stand their and shoot someone and they dont die and turn around and shoot you, I think that might affect the whole stats system and more importantly its actually happening in 3 quarters of the games i play and i have a 8mps up and 1mps dl and its just not good enough.

Edit: Im at Level 37 in prestige mode with the first badge.

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

mmackura

[QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

truegamer10111

Ok thats fine, But what about everybody stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

If you read my post, I have a kill death ratio of 1.89 and hit rate of 18.99% with a win ratio of like 99% wins, I dont know if these numbers suck but when you stand their and shoot someone and they dont die and turn around and shoot you, I think that might affect the whole stats system and more importantly its actually happening in 3 quarters of the games i play and i have a 8mps up and 1mps dl and its just not good enough.

Edit: Im at Level 37 in prestige mode with the first badge.

hahahaahhahaha u say it sucks, yet you've played it to lvl 37 on Prestige? i think your just a little angry, give yourself a chance to calm down and im sure you'll be playing it in no time. and if you say your lag is your only missing one bar, i dont want to hear you complain, i live in Australia and deal with a lot more all the time

if you've noticed the lag w/ COD4 has subsided since the holiday season has kind of died off.....................

I haven't had very many problems w/ it in the past 2 wks. And don't you find it interesting that at the same time there are Live problems, problems arise w/ COD4 too.. doesnt seem just like a coincidence to me...

[QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

truegamer10111

Ok thats fine, But what about everybody stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

If you read my post, I have a kill death ratio of 1.89 and hit rate of 18.99% with a win ratio of like 99% wins, I dont know if these numbers suck but when you stand their and shoot someone and they dont die and turn around and shoot you, I think that might affect the whole stats system and more importantly its actually happening in 3 quarters of the games i play and i have a 8mps up and 1mps dl and its just not good enough.

Im not getting any problems with servers, so its probably your connection. To hate a game fore connection problems when they'll probably get it fixed soon, then thats just stupid.

[QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

sarmini

Ok thats fine, But what about everybody stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

LOL thats going on my top 10 posts ever

[QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

mmackura

Ok thats fine, But what about everybodys stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

So you want the stats to have a value to them? like what for instance? achievements?.... it was a goal of IW to not associate achievements w/ MP...

And your stats do have a value.. good stats = more kills/wins = more xp = new weapons unlocked/ level up.... I don't see your problem with the stats...

your just pissed off about the lag, same problem that we've all been having to deal with....

No i mean, I like to see my stats and reflect my skill level, When i have a higher kill/death ratio im obviously a better player and want these stats to reflect that, Also when their lower im obviously getting killed more and in the end it can mean a win or a loss, Personaly i dont care if i dont get the last badge, Its a waste of time and dosent reflect the skills a player has, Its the actually stats that the person has, Also id love not to be punished for quiting when i have a red light, It resulted in countless losses becuase i refuse to be owned by noobs, last thing, I hate being connected to a match when you on the losing side and the other team has like one kill to get and the other team is like 300pts behind.

[QUOTE="mmackura"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

truegamer10111

Ok thats fine, But what about everybodys stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

So you want the stats to have a value to them? like what for instance? achievements?.... it was a goal of IW to not associate achievements w/ MP...

And your stats do have a value.. good stats = more kills/wins = more xp = new weapons unlocked/ level up.... I don't see your problem with the stats...

your just pissed off about the lag, same problem that we've all been having to deal with....

No i mean, I like to see my stats and reflect my skill level, When i have a higher kill/death ratio im obviously a better player and want these stats to reflect that, Also when their lower im obviously getting killed more and in the end it can mean a win or a loss, Personaly i dont care if i dont get the last badge, Its a waste of time and dosent reflect the skills a player has, Its the actually stats that the person has, Also id love not to be punished for quiting when i have a red light, It resulted in countless losses becuase i refuse to be owned by noobs, last thing, I hate being connected to a match when you on the losing side and the other team has like one kill to get and the other team is like 300pts behind.

i think u need to learn... ITS JUST A GAME!!! NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR WIN/LOSS RATIO! THEY DONT LOOK AT IT AND THINK YOUR A LOSER! ONCE AGAIN ITS A GAME!!!

[QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

chaoscougar1

Ok thats fine, But what about everybodys stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

So you want the stats to have a value to them? like what for instance? achievements?.... it was a goal of IW to not associate achievements w/ MP...

And your stats do have a value.. good stats = more kills/wins = more xp = new weapons unlocked/ level up.... I don't see your problem with the stats...

your just pissed off about the lag, same problem that we've all been having to deal with....

No i mean, I like to see my stats and reflect my skill level, When i have a higher kill/death ratio im obviously a better player and want these stats to reflect that, Also when their lower im obviously getting killed more and in the end it can mean a win or a loss, Personaly i dont care if i dont get the last badge, Its a waste of time and dosent reflect the skills a player has, Its the actually stats that the person has, Also id love not to be punished for quiting when i have a red light, It resulted in countless losses becuase i refuse to be owned by noobs, last thing, I hate being connected to a match when you on the losing side and the other team has like one kill to get and the other team is like 300pts behind.

i think u need to learn... ITS JUST A GAME!!! NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR WIN/LOSS RATIO! THEY DONT LOOK AT IT AND THINK YOUR A LOSER! ONCE AGAIN ITS A GAME!!!

Playing anyone outside of you continent is pathetic, Imo they should of done what Insomniac did, Have local servers only for a while from launch and until the netcode was up to scratch then put global serves in via an update, Basicaly the game is broken and never should of shipped the way it did, Im also assuming that Activtion is not using dedicated serves and if thats is the case then shame on them, If Ea which is now the second biggist 3rd party publisher can have dedicated servers on all games then i cant see why Activision cant either and with them becoming ActiBlizzard i dont see why this isnt possible.

Atm the disc gets a good work out as a freezbee around the room every now and then, I just want to snap the disc in half sometimes but i aint that stupid, Im very dissapointed in any company who was apart of this product, Its has a 6hr sp campain which while amazing still makes me feel ripped off, The Mp as said before is complety broken and the stat system is worth nothing, If we had no lag ever my stats would be diffrent, Im at 1.95 kills per death but the lag kills me alot, I think honestly i would be in the mid to high twos, My stats i shoot with are 18.99% hit ratio, I know im better than that, I know i would be in mid twentys, I dont live in the Us which makes it even more painful, I live in Australia and if you not playing the locals you going to get a orange light at best.

I lost all respect for Iw, Activtion and Ms, The game is broken in alot of ways, Cod3 pretty much had no lag and when it did it wasnt that big of a problem, Also what gets me angry is the frame rate problems in the Mp, It actually stutters which i find shocking, Personaly im happy Iw wont be developing the next one, I found that Cod3 was pretty good and at least it had the basics down unlike Cod4.

I put this game, The Employees and even the Janitor in the building in the hall of shame, This game is PATHETIC.

Edit:

I also just broke my wireless headset because i just threw it at the ground, Im using the disc as a frisbee now and then and the controller is pretty strong so ill use that and pretend its Iw and bash it on the ground.

Also forgot got to mention that when it does work the game is the best, Imo if it ran well from the start and with a little bit of tweaking here and there over time it could of been one of the best if not the best mp around, This is why im really angry about it, I wonder if the Ps3 version is better online?.

truegamer10111

For me CoD1-2 were OK at best. I would've given them a 6/10 on fun. CoD3 was pretty good. Around a 7.5 at best. But CoD4 is in my top 10 games. I loved the single player and the mutliplayer is AWESOME. I give it a 9.5/10 on the funness scale. In my top 5 shooters. If it "sucked" how did it get to many good revewis and awards? Heck, they should've given IW the Nobel Peace Prize for having kids stay in and play CoD4 instead of going out and joining gangs.

[QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

sarmini

Ok thats fine, But what about everybody stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

If you read my post, I have a kill death ratio of 1.89 and hit rate of 18.99% with a win ratio of like 99% wins, I dont know if these numbers suck but when you stand their and shoot someone and they dont die and turn around and shoot you, I think that might affect the whole stats system and more importantly its actually happening in 3 quarters of the games i play and i have a 8mps up and 1mps dl and its just not good enough.

Im not getting any problems with servers, so its probably your connection. To hate a game fore connection problems when they'll probably get it fixed soon, then thats just stupid.

My connection is 8mps download and 1mps upload, If thats not enough then i think that Ms should have the option of local servers only, This should of never happend, Its rather sloppy imo, Iw should of done what Insominiac did and reease global servers by an update becuase the way they did it was obviouly pushed to get to as many people as possible with the year window of release between Cod3 to make as much money as possible, When it comes down to it Cod4 global servers suck, Plain and simple.

Btw i dont live in the Us and this is why you might not be getting the problems..

[QUOTE="truegamer10111"]

Playing anyone outside of you continent is pathetic, Imo they should of done what Insomniac did, Have local servers only for a while from launch and until the netcode was up to scratch then put global serves in via an update, Basicaly the game is broken and never should of shipped the way it did, Im also assuming that Activtion is not using dedicated serves and if thats is the case then shame on them, If Ea which is now the second biggist 3rd party publisher can have dedicated servers on all games then i cant see why Activision cant either and with them becoming ActiBlizzard i dont see why this isnt possible.

Atm the disc gets a good work out as a freezbee around the room every now and then, I just want to snap the disc in half sometimes but i aint that stupid, Im very dissapointed in any company who was apart of this product, Its has a 6hr sp campain which while amazing still makes me feel ripped off, The Mp as said before is complety broken and the stat system is worth nothing, If we had no lag ever my stats would be diffrent, Im at 1.95 kills per death but the lag kills me alot, I think honestly i would be in the mid to high twos, My stats i shoot with are 18.99% hit ratio, I know im better than that, I know i would be in mid twentys, I dont live in the Us which makes it even more painful, I live in Australia and if you not playing the locals you going to get a orange light at best.

I lost all respect for Iw, Activtion and Ms, The game is broken in alot of ways, Cod3 pretty much had no lag and when it did it wasnt that big of a problem, Also what gets me angry is the frame rate problems in the Mp, It actually stutters which i find shocking, Personaly im happy Iw wont be developing the next one, I found that Cod3 was pretty good and at least it had the basics down unlike Cod4.

I put this game, The Employees and even the Janitor in the building in the hall of shame, This game is PATHETIC.

Edit:

I also just broke my wireless headset because i just threw it at the ground, Im using the disc as a frisbee now and then and the controller is pretty strong so ill use that and pretend its Iw and bash it on the ground.

Also forgot got to mention that when it does work the game is the best, Imo if it ran well from the start and with a little bit of tweaking here and there over time it could of been one of the best if not the best mp around, This is why im really angry about it, I wonder if the Ps3 version is better online?.

SirFatalChaos

For me CoD1-2 were OK at best. I would've given them a 6/10 on fun. CoD3 was pretty good. Around a 7.5 at best. But CoD4 is in my top 10 games. I loved the single player and the mutliplayer is AWESOME. I give it a 9.5/10 on the funness scale. In my top 5 shooters. If it "sucked" how did it get to many good revewis and awards? Heck, they should've given IW the Nobel Peace Prize for having kids stay in and play CoD4 instead of going out and joining gangs.

Who said it sucked, This is what i said: Also forgot got to mention that when it does work the game is the best, Imo if it ran well from the start and with a little bit of tweaking here and there over time it could of been one of the best if not the best mp around, This is why im really angry about it.

I actually said the game is broken online.

[QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

truegamer10111

Ok thats fine, But what about everybody stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

If you read my post, I have a kill death ratio of 1.89 and hit rate of 18.99% with a win ratio of like 99% wins, I dont know if these numbers suck but when you stand their and shoot someone and they dont die and turn around and shoot you, I think that might affect the whole stats system and more importantly its actually happening in 3 quarters of the games i play and i have a 8mps up and 1mps dl and its just not good enough.

Im not getting any problems with servers, so its probably your connection. To hate a game fore connection problems when they'll probably get it fixed soon, then thats just stupid.

My connection is 8mps download and 1mps upload, If thats not enough then i think that Ms should have the option of local servers only, This should of never happend, Its rather sloppy imo, Iw should of done what Insominiac did and reease global servers by an update becuase the way they did it was obviouly pushed to get to as many people as possible with the year window of release between Cod3 to make as much money as possible, When it comes down to it Cod4 global servers suck, Plain and simple.

Btw i dont live in the Us and this is why you might not be getting the problems..

i live in australia and the best way to solve the server problems is i play at night, which is about 3 in the morning for americans, so basically i only get australian hosts and a full connection

[QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

truegamer10111

Ok thats fine, But what about everybody stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

If you read my post, I have a kill death ratio of 1.89 and hit rate of 18.99% with a win ratio of like 99% wins, I dont know if these numbers suck but when you stand their and shoot someone and they dont die and turn around and shoot you, I think that might affect the whole stats system and more importantly its actually happening in 3 quarters of the games i play and i have a 8mps up and 1mps dl and its just not good enough.

Im not getting any problems with servers, so its probably your connection. To hate a game fore connection problems when they'll probably get it fixed soon, then thats just stupid.

My connection is 8mps download and 1mps upload, If thats not enough then i think that Ms should have the option of local servers only, This should of never happend, Its rather sloppy imo, Iw should of done what Insominiac did and reease global servers by an update becuase the way they did it was obviouly pushed to get to as many people as possible with the year window of release between Cod3 to make as much money as possible, When it comes down to it Cod4 global servers suck, Plain and simple.

Btw i dont live in the Us and this is why you might not be getting the problems..

[QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

chaoscougar1

Ok thats fine, But what about everybody stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

If you read my post, I have a kill death ratio of 1.89 and hit rate of 18.99% with a win ratio of like 99% wins, I dont know if these numbers suck but when you stand their and shoot someone and they dont die and turn around and shoot you, I think that might affect the whole stats system and more importantly its actually happening in 3 quarters of the games i play and i have a 8mps up and 1mps dl and its just not good enough.

Edit: Im at Level 37 in prestige mode with the first badge.

hahahaahhahaha u say it sucks, yet you've played it to lvl 37 on Prestige? i think your just a little angry, give yourself a chance to calm down and im sure you'll be playing it in no time. and if you say your lag is your only missing one bar, i dont want to hear you complain, i live in Australia and deal with a lot more all the time

But i am from Australia as well, Im usually on an red or orange when not playing with a fellow Aus/Nz.

I put this game, The Employees and even the Janitor in the building in the hall of shame, This game is PATHETIC.truegamer10111

Yea, 8.36 million copies, this game is GARBAGE! /scarasm.

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

truegamer10111

Ok thats fine, But what about everybody stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

If you read my post, I have a kill death ratio of 1.89 and hit rate of 18.99% with a win ratio of like 99% wins, I dont know if these numbers suck but when you stand their and shoot someone and they dont die and turn around and shoot you, I think that might affect the whole stats system and more importantly its actually happening in 3 quarters of the games i play and i have a 8mps up and 1mps dl and its just not good enough.

Edit: Im at Level 37 in prestige mode with the first badge.

hahahaahhahaha u say it sucks, yet you've played it to lvl 37 on Prestige? i think your just a little angry, give yourself a chance to calm down and im sure you'll be playing it in no time. and if you say your lag is your only missing one bar, i dont want to hear you complain, i live in Australia and deal with a lot more all the time

But i am from Australia as well, Im usually on an red or orange when not playing with a fellow Aus/Nz.

then dont, trust me u play from about 9pm onwards and all u get is aussie hosts, just play another game till then

[QUOTE="truegamer10111"]
I put this game, The Employees and even the Janitor in the building in the hall of shame, This game is PATHETIC.jchaff

Yea, 8.36 million copies, this game is GARBAGE! /scarasm.

So basicaly as long as you and i know that the game has sold that many it actually dosent matter when i fire a full clip into someone and they walk away like nothings happend.

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

sarmini

Ok thats fine, But what about everybodys stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

So you want the stats to have a value to them? like what for instance? achievements?.... it was a goal of IW to not associate achievements w/ MP...

And your stats do have a value.. good stats = more kills/wins = more xp = new weapons unlocked/ level up.... I don't see your problem with the stats...

your just pissed off about the lag, same problem that we've all been having to deal with....

No i mean, I like to see my stats and reflect my skill level, When i have a higher kill/death ratio im obviously a better player and want these stats to reflect that, Also when their lower im obviously getting killed more and in the end it can mean a win or a loss, Personaly i dont care if i dont get the last badge, Its a waste of time and dosent reflect the skills a player has, Its the actually stats that the person has, Also id love not to be punished for quiting when i have a red light, It resulted in countless losses becuase i refuse to be owned by noobs, last thing, I hate being connected to a match when you on the losing side and the other team has like one kill to get and the other team is like 300pts behind.

i think u need to learn... ITS JUST A GAME!!! NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR WIN/LOSS RATIO! THEY DONT LOOK AT IT AND THINK YOUR A LOSER! ONCE AGAIN ITS A GAME!!!

Ok so basicaly both of you have confirmed the whole leveling and stat system means nothing and should of not even bean included?.

[QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

truegamer10111

Ok thats fine, But what about everybody stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

If you read my post, I have a kill death ratio of 1.89 and hit rate of 18.99% with a win ratio of like 99% wins, I dont know if these numbers suck but when you stand their and shoot someone and they dont die and turn around and shoot you, I think that might affect the whole stats system and more importantly its actually happening in 3 quarters of the games i play and i have a 8mps up and 1mps dl and its just not good enough.

Edit: Im at Level 37 in prestige mode with the first badge.

Why create a new Gamespot acct to start yourt post? Why not show us ur gamer score and name? Also I have never heard of a ISP that offers 8MB Up w/ only 1MB down. I would suggest a new ISP...or learn what your talking about by calling your ISP. Call of Duty isnt for every one. It can be hard and frustrating especially when a host has bad ISP and causes lag for you. I would suggest playing a different game since it seems that this game frustrates you so muuch and that cant be good for your health.

It's just your internet that's making you lag, I have never lagged while playing a console game online, not even once. You should get it checked out or something, before you break the disc. Then we wouldn't be able to play online with you if you do. People get the lag here and there, and there's just some better players than others so you can't blame it all on the game. The best thing to do is suck it up and move on.SPD_WeBmAsTaH

Its the global servers, Basicaly most Americans wont know about it until they play outside the Us and when im playing with mostly locals the Americans kick up a stick and leave, Anyone outside there local servers will know even with a 20mb cable connection, You will suffer major lag , I dont mind getting killed by better players, The problem is when i die its just because its mostly just lag.

I wouldnt care so much if i didnt love Cod4 but i love it, I play at least 3 hrs a day when its running well but its getting annoying, I mean i could play a whole host of other games which i havent finished which include Ac, Fear, R6 Vega and a whole lot of others but the point is i dont and really i just want to play Cod4 without getting in a match and being punished for quitting because of a poor connection.

[QUOTE="truegamer10111"]

Playing anyone outside of you continent is pathetic, Imo they should of done what Insomniac did, Have local servers only for a while from launch and until the netcode was up to scratch then put global serves in via an update, Basicaly the game is broken and never should of shipped the way it did, Im also assuming that Activtion is not using dedicated serves and if thats is the case then shame on them, If Ea which is now the second biggist 3rd party publisher can have dedicated servers on all games then i cant see why Activision cant either and with them becoming ActiBlizzard i dont see why this isnt possible.

Atm the disc gets a good work out as a freezbee around the room every now and then, I just want to snap the disc in half sometimes but i aint that stupid, Im very dissapointed in any company who was apart of this product, Its has a 6hr sp campain which while amazing still makes me feel ripped off, The Mp as said before is complety broken and the stat system is worth nothing, If we had no lag ever my stats would be diffrent, Im at 1.95 kills per death but the lag kills me alot, I think honestly i would be in the mid to high twos, My stats i shoot with are 18.99% hit ratio, I know im better than that, I know i would be in mid twentys, I dont live in the Us which makes it even more painful, I live in Australia and if you not playing the locals you going to get a orange light at best.

I lost all respect for Iw, Activtion and Ms, The game is broken in alot of ways, Cod3 pretty much had no lag and when it did it wasnt that big of a problem, Also what gets me angry is the frame rate problems in the Mp, It actually stutters which i find shocking, Personaly im happy Iw wont be developing the next one, I found that Cod3 was pretty good and at least it had the basics down unlike Cod4.

I put this game, The Employees and even the Janitor in the building in the hall of shame, This game is PATHETIC.

Edit:

I also just broke my wireless headset because i just threw it at the ground, Im using the disc as a frisbee now and then and the controller is pretty strong so ill use that and pretend its Iw and bash it on the ground.

Also forgot got to mention that when it does work the game is the best, Imo if it ran well from the start and with a little bit of tweaking here and there over time it could of been one of the best if not the best mp around, This is why im really angry about it, I wonder if the Ps3 version is better online?.

SirFatalChaos

For me CoD1-2 were OK at best. I would've given them a 6/10 on fun. CoD3 was pretty good. Around a 7.5 at best. But CoD4 is in my top 10 games. I loved the single player and the mutliplayer is AWESOME. I give it a 9.5/10 on the funness scale. In my top 5 shooters. If it "sucked" how did it get to many good revewis and awards? Heck, they should've given IW the Nobel Peace Prize for having kids stay in and play CoD4 instead of going out and joining gangs.

Blek...I liked 1 and 2 but I was so done w/ WWII games way before CoD...playing games like RTCW and MoH for years not to mention the slew of other WWII games. I couldnt stomach 3. Wasnt the same as the first 2.

[QUOTE="SirFatalChaos"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"]

Playing anyone outside of you continent is pathetic, Imo they should of done what Insomniac did, Have local servers only for a while from launch and until the netcode was up to scratch then put global serves in via an update, Basicaly the game is broken and never should of shipped the way it did, Im also assuming that Activtion is not using dedicated serves and if thats is the case then shame on them, If Ea which is now the second biggist 3rd party publisher can have dedicated servers on all games then i cant see why Activision cant either and with them becoming ActiBlizzard i dont see why this isnt possible.

Atm the disc gets a good work out as a freezbee around the room every now and then, I just want to snap the disc in half sometimes but i aint that stupid, Im very dissapointed in any company who was apart of this product, Its has a 6hr sp campain which while amazing still makes me feel ripped off, The Mp as said before is complety broken and the stat system is worth nothing, If we had no lag ever my stats would be diffrent, Im at 1.95 kills per death but the lag kills me alot, I think honestly i would be in the mid to high twos, My stats i shoot with are 18.99% hit ratio, I know im better than that, I know i would be in mid twentys, I dont live in the Us which makes it even more painful, I live in Australia and if you not playing the locals you going to get a orange light at best.

I lost all respect for Iw, Activtion and Ms, The game is broken in alot of ways, Cod3 pretty much had no lag and when it did it wasnt that big of a problem, Also what gets me angry is the frame rate problems in the Mp, It actually stutters which i find shocking, Personaly im happy Iw wont be developing the next one, I found that Cod3 was pretty good and at least it had the basics down unlike Cod4.

I put this game, The Employees and even the Janitor in the building in the hall of shame, This game is PATHETIC.

Edit:

I also just broke my wireless headset because i just threw it at the ground, Im using the disc as a frisbee now and then and the controller is pretty strong so ill use that and pretend its Iw and bash it on the ground.

Also forgot got to mention that when it does work the game is the best, Imo if it ran well from the start and with a little bit of tweaking here and there over time it could of been one of the best if not the best mp around, This is why im really angry about it, I wonder if the Ps3 version is better online?.

truegamer10111

For me CoD1-2 were OK at best. I would've given them a 6/10 on fun. CoD3 was pretty good. Around a 7.5 at best. But CoD4 is in my top 10 games. I loved the single player and the mutliplayer is AWESOME. I give it a 9.5/10 on the funness scale. In my top 5 shooters. If it "sucked" how did it get to many good revewis and awards? Heck, they should've given IW the Nobel Peace Prize for having kids stay in and play CoD4 instead of going out and joining gangs.

Who said it sucked, This is what i said: Also forgot got to mention that when it does work the game is the best, Imo if it ran well from the start and with a little bit of tweaking here and there over time it could of been one of the best if not the best mp around, This is why im really angry about it.

I actually said the game is broken online.

Well if your opinion counts then so does any one elses...and most ppl find that CoD 4 IS the best MP experience atm. Change your ISP and play in short spurts to avoid frustration and the trouble of making a new acct in the Gamespot forum just to complain and make up phony stats.

Your Ignorance reflects what you said in your post. Compared w/games like gears and Even Halo, the lag in COD4 is nothing. Your so called "lag" kills are prolly something called the martyrdom perk which drops a grenade when u die. But I wouldnt want to make yourself seem any dumber so ill leave it at that.honkyjoe

Lets get this at the way **** ***, Ive played Cod4 to presitge mode at level 37, I basicaly know the ins and outs of the game, This is what a hear from you mouth blah blah, I dont care what happens in Halo 3 which runs perfect for me btw and Geow, Im having the worst lag ever and i know what it is, Its because live is rubbish, The serves are top far away and its unplayable oustide your local serves, It not aa bad for americans because theirs a whole host of games set up which you can join, But outside that you will be forced to join a global server and thus have one of the worst gaming experiences ever.

[QUOTE="jchaff"]

[QUOTE="truegamer10111"]
I put this game, The Employees and even the Janitor in the building in the hall of shame, This game is PATHETIC.truegamer10111

Yea, 8.36 million copies, this game is GARBAGE! /scarasm.

So basicaly as long as you and i know that the game has sold that many it actually dosent matter when i fire a full clip into someone and they walk away like nothings happend.

To call the game pathetic in one post and then turn around and say its so great in another only proves that this whole post is about how upset you are about getting PWND on the MP part of the game. Take it easy...if you arent having fun dont play..come back to it later and maybe the tides will turn...or maybe your just no good at the game and its time to trade it in for an easier game. Games are for fun. Enjoy.

[QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="SirFatalChaos"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"]

Playing anyone outside of you continent is pathetic, Imo they should of done what Insomniac did, Have local servers only for a while from launch and until the netcode was up to scratch then put global serves in via an update, Basicaly the game is broken and never should of shipped the way it did, Im also assuming that Activtion is not using dedicated serves and if thats is the case then shame on them, If Ea which is now the second biggist 3rd party publisher can have dedicated servers on all games then i cant see why Activision cant either and with them becoming ActiBlizzard i dont see why this isnt possible.

Atm the disc gets a good work out as a freezbee around the room every now and then, I just want to snap the disc in half sometimes but i aint that stupid, Im very dissapointed in any company who was apart of this product, Its has a 6hr sp campain which while amazing still makes me feel ripped off, The Mp as said before is complety broken and the stat system is worth nothing, If we had no lag ever my stats would be diffrent, Im at 1.95 kills per death but the lag kills me alot, I think honestly i would be in the mid to high twos, My stats i shoot with are 18.99% hit ratio, I know im better than that, I know i would be in mid twentys, I dont live in the Us which makes it even more painful, I live in Australia and if you not playing the locals you going to get a orange light at best.

I lost all respect for Iw, Activtion and Ms, The game is broken in alot of ways, Cod3 pretty much had no lag and when it did it wasnt that big of a problem, Also what gets me angry is the frame rate problems in the Mp, It actually stutters which i find shocking, Personaly im happy Iw wont be developing the next one, I found that Cod3 was pretty good and at least it had the basics down unlike Cod4.

I put this game, The Employees and even the Janitor in the building in the hall of shame, This game is PATHETIC.

Edit:

I also just broke my wireless headset because i just threw it at the ground, Im using the disc as a frisbee now and then and the controller is pretty strong so ill use that and pretend its Iw and bash it on the ground.

Also forgot got to mention that when it does work the game is the best, Imo if it ran well from the start and with a little bit of tweaking here and there over time it could of been one of the best if not the best mp around, This is why im really angry about it, I wonder if the Ps3 version is better online?.

secondomen

For me CoD1-2 were OK at best. I would've given them a 6/10 on fun. CoD3 was pretty good. Around a 7.5 at best. But CoD4 is in my top 10 games. I loved the single player and the mutliplayer is AWESOME. I give it a 9.5/10 on the funness scale. In my top 5 shooters. If it "sucked" how did it get to many good revewis and awards? Heck, they should've given IW the Nobel Peace Prize for having kids stay in and play CoD4 instead of going out and joining gangs.

Who said it sucked, This is what i said: Also forgot got to mention that when it does work the game is the best, Imo if it ran well from the start and with a little bit of tweaking here and there over time it could of been one of the best if not the best mp around, This is why im really angry about it.

I actually said the game is broken online.

Well if your opinion counts then so does any one elses...and most ppl find that CoD 4 IS the best MP experience atm. Change your ISP and play in short spurts to avoid frustration and the trouble of making a new acct in the Gamespot forum just to complain and make up phony stats.

1. Ive just said its not because of my isp, Heck people with 20mb connection have problems.

2. These are my stats, Deal with it.

3. I tried like last week but gamespot was a bit buggy and tried again today and it work, I didnt sign up just to post the topic.

[QUOTE="sarmini"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="mmackura"]

well look at it this way... The reason why COD3 was "better" online was b/c it sucked and no one played it... and the reason why COD4 is kinda screwd online is because the servers have been screwed up for EVERYBODY... MS has acknowledged the problem and is giving away Undertow now for free... So IW didn't do anything wrong... the servers have just been screwed up b/c the game is immesly popular, and a whole bunch of people played over the Holidays... THAT is why you have lag, not because the GAME sucks, but because the servers were overloaded.

the game is definately not something I'd be using a a frisbee.

truegamer10111

Ok thats fine, But what about everybodys stats being complety ******, Basicaly the stats mean nothing now and the whole thing imo has fell apart.

So you want the stats to have a value to them? like what for instance? achievements?.... it was a goal of IW to not associate achievements w/ MP...

And your stats do have a value.. good stats = more kills/wins = more xp = new weapons unlocked/ level up.... I don't see your problem with the stats...

your just pissed off about the lag, same problem that we've all been having to deal with....

No i mean, I like to see my stats and reflect my skill level, When i have a higher kill/death ratio im obviously a better player and want these stats to reflect that, Also when their lower im obviously getting killed more and in the end it can mean a win or a loss, Personaly i dont care if i dont get the last badge, Its a waste of time and dosent reflect the skills a player has, Its the actually stats that the person has, Also id love not to be punished for quiting when i have a red light, It resulted in countless losses becuase i refuse to be owned by noobs, last thing, I hate being connected to a match when you on the losing side and the other team has like one kill to get and the other team is like 300pts behind.

i think u need to learn... ITS JUST A GAME!!! NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR WIN/LOSS RATIO! THEY DONT LOOK AT IT AND THINK YOUR A LOSER! ONCE AGAIN ITS A GAME!!!

Ok so basicaly both of you have confirmed the whole leveling and stat system means nothing and should of not even bean included?.

The stats are just another perk of playing the game..and playing it well. It means nothing unless it means somethig to you. Dont take it personally if your stats suck. Why not include them? Also earning ranks allows you to unlock arms. It would be boring if you had everything unlocked at the get go. It adds to the longevity of the game and also adds a sense of accomplishment.

[QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="jchaff"]

[QUOTE="truegamer10111"]
I put this game, The Employees and even the Janitor in the building in the hall of shame, This game is PATHETIC.secondomen

Yea, 8.36 million copies, this game is GARBAGE! /scarasm.

So basicaly as long as you and i know that the game has sold that many it actually dosent matter when i fire a full clip into someone and they walk away like nothings happend.

To call the game pathetic in one post and then turn around and say its so great in another only proves that this whole post is about how upset you are about getting PWND on the MP part of the game. Take it easy...if you arent having fun dont play..come back to it later and maybe the tides will turn...or maybe your just no good at the game and its time to trade it in for an easier game. Games are for fun. Enjoy.

You didnt real original post eh, i cleary said the Mp is awsome and is pretty much failing imo due to these problems, But i dont think most americans will know what im talking about though which is why this topic will fall of death ears.

[QUOTE="honkyjoe"]Your Ignorance reflects what you said in your post. Compared w/games like gears and Even Halo, the lag in COD4 is nothing. Your so called "lag" kills are prolly something called the martyrdom perk which drops a grenade when u die. But I wouldnt want to make yourself seem any dumber so ill leave it at that.truegamer10111

Lets get this at the way **** ***, Ive played Cod4 to presitge mode at level 37, I basicaly know the ins and outs of the game, This is what a hear from you mouth blah blah, I dont care what happens in Halo 3 which runs perfect for me btw and Geow, Im having the worst lag ever and i know what it is, Its because live is rubbish, The serves are top far away and its unplayable oustide your local serves, It not aa bad for americans because theirs a whole host of games set up which you can join, But outside that you will be forced to join a global server and thus have one of the worst gaming experiences ever.

I dont think even w/ lag this game could ever be called "one of the worst gaming experiences ever" period. You even said you play 3 hours a day and that you love the game. Again your proving the point that you need to take a break from the game and come back to it fresh and PWN some nubs.

[QUOTE="secondomen"][QUOTE="truegamer10111"][QUOTE="jchaff"]

[QUOTE="truegamer10111"]
I put this game, The Employees and even the Janitor in the building in the hall of shame, This game is PATHETIC.truegamer10111

Yea, 8.36 million copies, this game is GARBAGE! /scarasm.

So basicaly as long as you and i know that the game has sold that many it actually dosent matter when i fire a full clip into someone and they walk away like nothings happend.

To call the game pathetic in one post and then turn around and say its so great in another only proves that this whole post is about how upset you are about getting PWND on the MP part of the game. Take it easy...if you arent having fun dont play..come back to it later and maybe the tides will turn...or maybe your just no good at the game and its time to trade it in for an easier game. Games are for fun. Enjoy.

You didnt real original post eh, i cleary said the Mp is awsome and is pretty much failing imo due to these problems, But i dont think most americans will know what im talking about though which is why this topic will fall of death ears.

Lag is lag and it can happen to any one any where. Its been experienced by every one here. To say because we are American we wont understand is ignorant. Just take it easy and come back when your fresh. You sound burned out...you must have played it alot to get Prestige and back up to rank 37...understandable you have burned out. Lag is frustrating no matter where you are...but its something that you will have to deal w/ in a non-perfect world.

I'm just starting to play COD4..previously been hooked on that other best selling FPS. I can definitely say it is a lot of fun. My only issue is a combination of lag and or collusion? (not sure if its the right tech term..not down with the hardcore technical jargon of video games these days). Often when trying to lay low and snipe my camera view is totally screwed I can't even looked in certain directions..its all jacked up especially when in the grass and / or amongst other objects. Its been really bad twice now, its hopefully lag, if not the game is in definite need of a patch. Other than that I think its a great game2up2down

Keep in mind that if your near a wall and your prone your feet will prevent you from making turns.