Just got 720P, looks not much better?

Had this TV for years, just realised it is 720P (well, 1024x768, but basically 720P). The only 360 game I have is ODST at the moment, and I played it on my main TV and my smaller one (which is 1280x720). It looked the same on both TV's, except a bit more aliasing on the guns at the higher resolution. The menus and text look a LOT clearer, but in game it doesn't look much different, except the hud. Is this just because Halo doesn't look good at 720P?

Had this TV for years, just realised it is 720P (well, 1024x768, but basically 720P). The only 360 game I have is ODST at the moment, and I played it on my main TV and my smaller one (which is 1280x720). It looked the same on both TV's, except a bit more aliasing on the guns at the higher resolution. The menus and text look a LOT clearer, but in game it doesn't look much different, except the hud. Is this just because Halo doesn't look good at 720P?

Sambo115

by sheer maths, your missing 124,000 pixels

It's still as good as it, as I used it on both TV's and couldn't see a difference at all. You still get something like 780,000 pixels instead of 920,000.

It's still as good as it, as I used it on both TV's and couldn't see a difference at all. You still get something like 780,000 pixels instead of 920,000.

Sambo115

Honestly, I don't really care. I played it at both resolutions and other than more aliasing on the higher resolution which kinda sucked, it looked the same. All I want to know is if Halo 3 looks any better at 720P than 480P for most people, I'm thinking it wouldn't as it's not exactly a good looking game.

you can't see the difference usually unless you have a sd and hd tv side by side

you can't see the difference usually unless you have a sd and hd tv side by side

James161324

Are you using component or HDMI?x-2tha-z

VGA. Played some Halo 3 online and wow, the difference is quite huge. I kept dying because I was looking at the brighter, more vibrant colours etc. But in Firefight it's not much different, but the Spartans look a lot better online. Hopefully getting the 360 version of MW2 today, only played it 480i on the PS3 so will be nice to see how that looks.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

you can't see the difference usually unless you have a sd and hd tv side by side

djrobst

I noticed a nice difference from my SD TV to COD in 720p ( 1360x768 ), but people have been saying "can't go back after HD", so the difference was underwhelming, except no more interlacing :D

Yeah, I know what you mean. Other than the heaps clearer words/menu's, and I'm sure games like Borderlands split screen will be better to play, any split screen game really, it isn't as much of a jump as I thought it would be. Will have to play more games I guess.

there really isn't a huge difference between SD and HD with Halo. the big changes I noticed were in CoD 2, Gears of War, CoD4.

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]Are you using component or HDMI?Sambo115

VGA. Played some Halo 3 online and wow, the difference is quite huge. I kept dying because I was looking at the brighter, more vibrant colours etc. But in Firefight it's not much different, but the Spartans look a lot better online. Hopefully getting the 360 version of MW2 today, only played it 480i on the PS3 so will be nice to see how that looks.

[QUOTE="Sambo115"]

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]Are you using component or HDMI?x-2tha-z

VGA. Played some Halo 3 online and wow, the difference is quite huge. I kept dying because I was looking at the brighter, more vibrant colours etc. But in Firefight it's not much different, but the Spartans look a lot better online. Hopefully getting the 360 version of MW2 today, only played it 480i on the PS3 so will be nice to see how that looks.

It really depends on the TV. VGA is awesome on my TV, but wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't as good on newer TV's where HDMI is standard.

Halo 3 ODST isn't even in 720p, it's in 640p, you can use that res, but the game won't take advantage of it.

And MW2 is 600p Next-Gen-Tec.

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"][QUOTE="Sambo115"]

VGA. Played some Halo 3 online and wow, the difference is quite huge. I kept dying because I was looking at the brighter, more vibrant colours etc. But in Firefight it's not much different, but the Spartans look a lot better online. Hopefully getting the 360 version of MW2 today, only played it 480i on the PS3 so will be nice to see how that looks.

Sambo115

It really depends on the TV. VGA is awesome on my TV, but wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't as good on newer TV's where HDMI is standard.

[QUOTE="Sambo115"]

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]Games look crap on my tv when I use VGA. I get a much better picture with component and HDMI.x-2tha-z

It really depends on the TV. VGA is awesome on my TV, but wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't as good on newer TV's where HDMI is standard.

I said playing Halo on it didn't really look that much better, basically the same. Then after playing it online a bit I did notice quite a difference in colours etc, but not as much as I thought. So I came to the conclusion that Halo just doesn't look awesome in HD compared to SD.

I love it. I can tell the difference between 720 and 480. Standard junk and 720 also. Way better.

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]Are you using component or HDMI?Sambo115

VGA. Played some Halo 3 online and wow, the difference is quite huge. I kept dying because I was looking at the brighter, more vibrant colours etc. But in Firefight it's not much different, but the Spartans look a lot better online. Hopefully getting the 360 version of MW2 today, only played it 480i on the PS3 so will be nice to see how that looks.

[QUOTE="Sambo115"]

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]Are you using component or HDMI?Roland123_basic

VGA. Played some Halo 3 online and wow, the difference is quite huge. I kept dying because I was looking at the brighter, more vibrant colours etc. But in Firefight it's not much different, but the Spartans look a lot better online. Hopefully getting the 360 version of MW2 today, only played it 480i on the PS3 so will be nice to see how that looks.

i see a huge difference in picture quality.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

[QUOTE="Sambo115"]

VGA. Played some Halo 3 online and wow, the difference is quite huge. I kept dying because I was looking at the brighter, more vibrant colours etc. But in Firefight it's not much different, but the Spartans look a lot better online. Hopefully getting the 360 version of MW2 today, only played it 480i on the PS3 so will be nice to see how that looks.

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"] dude... if you are using VGA cables you arent even displaying in HD.....VGA cannot carry an HD signal. you have to use component or HDMI to get HD resolutions....

Roland123_basic

i've played on SD, 480P and now i have a 720P monitor. It looks much better.

My tv does 480p but when I connect it to my bigger one (1080p) i can truthfully say it doesn't look that much better. I think the entire HD thing is overrated unless you are playing on some fat ugly TV then it looks a lot better on even the basic flat screen TV even if it only does 480p.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

you can't see the difference usually unless you have a sd and hd tv side by side

djrobst

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="mitu123"] What, I can do HD on my PC monitor with VGA cables, all the way up to 1920x1080(1080p). You know there was an update for VGA cables, right?

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"] you realize that there is a difference between VGA (red, yellow, white or in other words, composite) cables for TV and VGA cables for computers right? composite cables for TV cannot carry an HD signal. i have no idea why he would be using the VGA computer connection for his TV, considering the 360 comes with component cables that can do HD just fine, and i have never heard of an HDTV without component connections.... hence why i am assuming by him saying VGA, he is using the composite cables.Next-Gen-Tec

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"] dude... if you are using VGA cables you arent even displaying in HD.....VGA cannot carry an HD signal. you have to use component or HDMI to get HD resolutions....

Roland123_basic

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="mitu123"] What, I can do HD on my PC monitor with VGA cables, all the way up to 1920x1080(1080p). You know there was an update for VGA cables, right?

x-2tha-z

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"] dude... if you are using VGA cables you arent even displaying in HD.....VGA cannot carry an HD signal. you have to use component or HDMI to get HD resolutions....

Roland123_basic

Because my TV only supports 480P via component. If component would do higher I would obviously be using it wouldn't I.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="mitu123"] What, I can do HD on my PC monitor with VGA cables, all the way up to 1920x1080(1080p). You know there was an update for VGA cables, right?

x-2tha-z

VGA IS the same as composite. when you hear people talking about VGA cables for TV, they are talking about composite cables... VGA for computers however... is completely different. people are getting confused here. VGA cables were composite cables LONG before they were VGA cables for computers....

the point im trying to get across here is.... composite cables have been called VGA cables for a LONG time. its only once they started having VGA cables for computers that are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, that there needed to be a distinction... i, like many people, still call composite cables, VGA cables.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="mitu123"] What, I can do HD on my PC monitor with VGA cables, all the way up to 1920x1080(1080p). You know there was an update for VGA cables, right?

Sambo115

Because my TV only supports 480P via component. If component would do higher I would obviously be using it wouldn't I.

Considering that ODST graphics are honestly not much to look at no matter what rez your seeing it in and no matter how good the display I can believe it.

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"] you realize that there is a difference between VGA (red, yellow, white or in other words, composite) cables for TV and VGA cables for computers right? composite cables for TV cannot carry an HD signal. i have no idea why he would be using the VGA computer connection for his TV, considering the 360 comes with component cables that can do HD just fine, and i have never heard of an HDTV without component connections.... hence why i am assuming by him saying VGA, he is using the composite cables.Roland123_basic

VGA IS the same as composite. when you hear people talking about VGA cables for TV, they are talking about composite cables... VGA for computers however... is completely different. people are getting confused here. VGA cables were composite cables LONG before they were VGA cables for computers....

the point im trying to get across here is.... composite cables have been called VGA cables for a LONG time. its only once they started having VGA cables for computers that are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, that there needed to be a distinction... i, like many people, still call composite cables, VGA cables.

Looks like I'll be getting a HDMI cable, you guys better not be BS'ing me.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="mitu123"] What, I can do HD on my PC monitor with VGA cables, all the way up to 1920x1080(1080p). You know there was an update for VGA cables, right?

x-2tha-z

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"] you realize that there is a difference between VGA (red, yellow, white or in other words, composite) cables for TV and VGA cables for computers right? composite cables for TV cannot carry an HD signal. i have no idea why he would be using the VGA computer connection for his TV, considering the 360 comes with component cables that can do HD just fine, and i have never heard of an HDTV without component connections.... hence why i am assuming by him saying VGA, he is using the composite cables.Roland123_basic

VGA IS the same as composite. when you hear people talking about VGA cables for TV, they are talking about composite cables... VGA for computers however... is completely different. people are getting confused here. VGA cables were composite cables LONG before they were VGA cables for computers....

the point im trying to get across here is.... composite cables have been called VGA cables for a LONG time. its only once they started having VGA cables for computers that are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, that there needed to be a distinction... i, like many people, still call composite cables, VGA cables.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]VGA is not the same as composite. VGA can carry a HD signal. Composite can't. VGA for 360 is the same as VGA for PC. Obviously, you need the 360 VGA cable so it will fit in the connection on the back of the 360. VGA for 360 is not red, white and yellow plugs. It's a 40 pin VGA connection. I don't know how you could get VGA and composite mixed up. VGA carries a HD signal but it's an analogue signal. Component is analogue too. HDMI is digital. HDMI is the connection to use for best picture quality.x-2tha-z

VGA IS the same as composite. when you hear people talking about VGA cables for TV, they are talking about composite cables... VGA for computers however... is completely different. people are getting confused here. VGA cables were composite cables LONG before they were VGA cables for computers....

the point im trying to get across here is.... composite cables have been called VGA cables for a LONG time. its only once they started having VGA cables for computers that are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, that there needed to be a distinction... i, like many people, still call composite cables, VGA cables.

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

VGA IS the same as composite. when you hear people talking about VGA cables for TV, they are talking about composite cables... VGA for computers however... is completely different. people are getting confused here. VGA cables were composite cables LONG before they were VGA cables for computers....

the point im trying to get across here is.... composite cables have been called VGA cables for a LONG time. its only once they started having VGA cables for computers that are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, that there needed to be a distinction... i, like many people, still call composite cables, VGA cables.

Roland123_basic

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]

VGA IS the same as composite. when you hear people talking about VGA cables for TV, they are talking about composite cables... VGA for computers however... is completely different. people are getting confused here. VGA cables were composite cables LONG before they were VGA cables for computers....

the point im trying to get across here is.... composite cables have been called VGA cables for a LONG time. its only once they started having VGA cables for computers that are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, that there needed to be a distinction... i, like many people, still call composite cables, VGA cables.

Roland123_basic

I must be in the Twilight Zone because you seem to believe such nonsense. Let me enlighten you.

VGA Wiki

Let's google VGA.

Still don't believe it check the images after the google search. Or just click here.

Had this TV for years, just realised it is 720P (well, 1024x768, but basically 720P). The only 360 game I have is ODST at the moment, and I played it on my main TV and my smaller one (which is 1280x720). It looked the same on both TV's, except a bit more aliasing on the guns at the higher resolution. The menus and text look a LOT clearer, but in game it doesn't look much different, except the hud. Is this just because Halo doesn't look good at 720P?

Sambo115

I'm lookin at what your sayin, but somethin aint right! only conclusion i can come up with is that odst's graphics must really suck!

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"]VGA IS the same as composite. when you hear people talking about VGA cables for TV, they are talking about composite cables... VGA for computers however... is completely different. people are getting confused here. VGA cables were composite cables LONG before they were VGA cables for computers....the point im trying to get across here is.... composite cables have been called VGA cables for a LONG time. its only once they started having VGA cables for computers that are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, that there needed to be a distinction... i, like many people, still call composite cables, VGA cables.Roland123_basic

[QUOTE="Next-Gen-Tec"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Well, I never used VGA cables for my TV, so I wouldn't know, I use component and HDMI for that. Yeah, he should go component, though HDMI is better.

mitu123

exactly...and it's just ONE cord...it's freakin amazing

sort of off topic question here (you guys seems to know what you're talking about, didn't want to make a whole thread for my 1 question)

I noticed on the back of the 360 that you can't have the HDMI and component adapter plugged in at same time. I wanted to use HDMI for picture and Optical for audio (hence wanting to plug in component adapter, as optical only exists on this attachment).

If I plug in my 360 to my HDTV via HDMI, then run optical from my TV to my receiver...will I get the same high quality as if I was plugging my 360 optical directly to the receiver?

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="x-2tha-z"] Have you ever seen the 360's VGA cable? It's exactly the same as VGA on PC. Do you think everyone on here is stupid? Telling people they're confused and they aren't using VGA and you can't get HD through VGA. You're the one whose confused. You're wrong. The point is, the 360 has a VGA cable (same as pc VGA), and it has a composite cable (yellow, red and white plugs). If people say they use the 360's VGA cable, they mean they use the VGA cable. If they meant composite they would say composite.drocka11

[QUOTE="Sambo115"]

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]Are you using component or HDMI?Roland123_basic

VGA. Played some Halo 3 online and wow, the difference is quite huge. I kept dying because I was looking at the brighter, more vibrant colours etc. But in Firefight it's not much different, but the Spartans look a lot better online. Hopefully getting the 360 version of MW2 today, only played it 480i on the PS3 so will be nice to see how that looks.

HAHA WHAT?!? VGA has been carring hd signals for years now haha. Seriously what do you think most computers used and still use? DVI was not and is not the standard on PC's yet and they use VGA to carry much higher resolutions than 1080p tvs can handle. I have used VGA and HDMI with my 360. I like the colors better with vga on my tv but the one cable for audio and video one out.