Project Zephyr; Xbox 360 V2 : What we know about it...(info,pics,video)

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#301 RaptorVenom
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Not really, if MS really does do this I am taking my system and all my sh!t that goes with it to GameStop and will only play a Sony system. I have a Premium with 27 games, HD DVD drive, and they screw it up like this by holding people off about HDMI, screw MS if this is real. Dont give me the BS about console update, no other console has added features that werent in the original after the update. Vasichko
Go right ahead, it'll be your loss. You obviously liked the system you have, just because they come out with another version doesn't change a thing about the one you already have. You can get rid of those 27 games & play that 1 game you'll have on your "sony" system. If you already have said sony system, then you shouldn't be bothered by the changes to 360. If you don't, the new 360 will still be cheaperthan the other system.
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#302 asmallchild
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You obviously liked the system you have, just because they come out with another version doesn't change a thing about the one you already have.RaptorVenom
Sure it does! It will no longer be the latest/greatest item from Microsoft. I think more than a few fans will be irritated by that fact. (I know I would)
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#303 RaptorVenom
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[QUOTE="RaptorVenom"]You obviously liked the system you have, just because they come out with another version doesn't change a thing about the one you already have.asmallchild
Sure it does! It will no longer be the latest/greatest item from Microsoft. I think more than a few fans will be irritated by that fact. (I know I would)

[QUOTE="RaptorVenom"]You obviously liked the system you have, just because they come out with another version doesn't change a thing about the one you already have.asmallchild
Sure it does! It will no longer be the latest/greatest item from Microsoft. I think more than a few fans will be irritated by that fact. (I know I would)

[QUOTE="RaptorVenom"]You obviously liked the system you have, just because they come out with another version doesn't change a thing about the one you already have.asmallchild
Sure it does! It will no longer be the latest/greatest item from Microsoft. I think more than a few fans will be irritated by that fact. (I know I would)

I might be irritated as well, but not enough to get rid of everything & switch systems.
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#304 asmallchild
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I might be irritated as well, but not enough to get rid of everything & switch systems.RaptorVenom
I'll admit that's a bit extreme. Especially if the guy's amassed a nice 27 game library!!
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#305 Funereal
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I haven't been in touch with the whole 360 thing that much since I haven't really had any interest in getting one. But lately I've been more drawn to it and I've layed aside my silly apprehensions (Microsoft = evil and all that) and I saw the pictures of that black new 360 and that will probably be a nice reason to buy one. Black is awesome and 120GB is awesome. So my plan is to wait and get one of those when they come out. I guess that is the smart thing to do?
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#306 thekey
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Its a rumour until demand is high enough for it, then it will be released.
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#307 subrosian
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[QUOTE="asmallchild"][QUOTE="RaptorVenom"]You obviously liked the system you have, just because they come out with another version doesn't change a thing about the one you already have.RaptorVenom
Sure it does! It will no longer be the latest/greatest item from Microsoft. I think more than a few fans will be irritated by that fact. (I know I would)

[QUOTE="RaptorVenom"]You obviously liked the system you have, just because they come out with another version doesn't change a thing about the one you already have.asmallchild
Sure it does! It will no longer be the latest/greatest item from Microsoft. I think more than a few fans will be irritated by that fact. (I know I would)

[QUOTE="RaptorVenom"]You obviously liked the system you have, just because they come out with another version doesn't change a thing about the one you already have.asmallchild
Sure it does! It will no longer be the latest/greatest item from Microsoft. I think more than a few fans will be irritated by that fact. (I know I would)

I might be irritated as well, but not enough to get rid of everything & switch systems.

This is far less of an issue than the RAM upgrade on the N64. What's more concerning is the complete absence of a price drop rumor to go with this - Microsoft is introducing a more expensive version of the console, now where is the price cut?
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#308 Schumi7WDC
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I agree with you, but from a MS perspective, there is no need for a price cut, they have a system that is 200 bucks cheaper than the PS3, and thier outperforming it, almost every game that comes out on both platforms, the 360 version outshines the PS3 version, unless that changes, or sales really go in the dumper, what pressure is there for MS to drop the price?  They lost a ton of money (as did Sony) launching the system, now they have a perfectly extended window to start moving back towards the black.  A few of us gamers that already have a system screaming about "why no price cut?" isn't going to motivate them. 

 While I think at some point there will be a move made, maybe some or all of the Zephyr components will see the light of day, but I'm starting to lose hope that this thing is going to come out like the rumors suggest.  I think if GDC comes and goes, and there is no announcement of any kind, than the whole May 1st idea is completely bogus. 

  I'm still pissed they scrapped or delayed the 256/512 mb memory card idea too.  So who knows what will happen here. 

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#309 ChErikS
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  I'm still pissed they scrapped or delayed the 256/512 mb memory card idea too.  So who knows what will happen here. 

Schumi7WDC


Don't worry, they will be appearing the same time as the new 360.

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#310 subrosian
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[QUOTE="Schumi7WDC"]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I'm still pissed they scrapped or delayed the 256/512 mb memory card idea too. So who knows what will happen here.

ChErikS


Don't worry, they will be appearing the same time as the new 360.

I'm foaming at the mouth here - there are rumors that the black Xbox 360 will show up before the European PS3 launch floating around, as well as a May 1st rumor date. I'm itching to play Gears of War - I have more than enough money to buy a 360, I have an HDTV, I'll be getting a surround system soon, but it's just silly to buy one now if the redesign is coming. Retailers aren't even giving great deals like they were before Christmas (when they thought the 360 would stop selling thanks to the PS3) so I'm left clutching my money, waiting for some real news. Nothing is more frustrating than the wait.
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#311 Solid-CELL
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As an 'early' adopter of the Xbox 360 platform I feel that Micrsoft as a company has betrayed their most loyal fans. We pay them with our good money for the latest in video game consoles to find them only a year later updating the system with features that were supposed to be on the original system. I am not worried about the larger hard drive as I dont store any media besides game demos on there, I dont care about the cooler chip as I already have an intercooler but seriously adding a hdmi port?! I am one of those people who do have a 1080p hdtv and I am really pissed that now they decide to introduce a hdmi port. Hopefully though they will be able make some sort of accessory so the v1 360s will support hdmi

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aint MS taking the same path as the Sega Cd/32x ? we all know where Sega ended up in system wars......
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#312 tequilasunriser
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[QUOTE="Funereal"]I haven't been in touch with the whole 360 thing that much since I haven't really had any interest in getting one. But lately I've been more drawn to it and I've layed aside my silly apprehensions (Microsoft = evil and all that) and I saw the pictures of that black new 360 and that will probably be a nice reason to buy one. Black is awesome and 120GB is awesome. So my plan is to wait and get one of those when they come out. I guess that is the smart thing to do?

Yeah I agree. I am also waiting. At first I wanted an earlier system so I could chip it, but I like Xbox Live from what I've seen so I'd like to be a part of that online community. I really just want HDMI, 65mn processors nad larger HDD would be nice too but I mainly want to be able to use the HDMI on my TV.
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#313 chaoscougar1
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i think it rips off all those who bought the 'old' system, i didnt pay $650 (AUS) for a second rate machine
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#314 onlineps2player
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I love this new stuff... 120GB HDD wow... :)
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#315 Solid-CELL
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i think it rips off all those who bought the 'old' system, i didnt pay $650 (AUS) for a second rate machinechaoscougar1
if rumors are true, then...turns out you did
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#316 subrosian
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]i think it rips off all those who bought the 'old' system, i didnt pay $650 (AUS) for a second rate machineSolid-CELL
if rumors are true, then...turns out you did

Don't let the Sony fanboys get to you... you have a world-class gaming system on your hands, and that's not going to be changed by any upgrades Microsoft might make to Zephyr.
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#317 Solid-CELL
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[QUOTE="Solid-CELL"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]i think it rips off all those who bought the 'old' system, i didnt pay $650 (AUS) for a second rate machinesubrosian
if rumors are true, then...turns out you did

Don't let the Sony fanboys get to you... you have a world-class gaming system on your hands, and that's not going to be changed by any upgrades Microsoft might make to Zephyr.

oh dont worry about that. i finally got my splinter cell: D A. :D im skipping on Blue Dragon but i cant freaking wait for Fable 2

 dont go around pointing out a fanboy when you dont kno squat about the poster. im loving my 360 right now, i recently got it. but i just think its messed up, about these Zephyr's IF these rumors are true. i want the most advance console. and now with the Zephyr, my 360 wont last as many years as i thought it would.
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#318 RebornInFlames
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O well they can make their stupid Zephyr. 400 was my absolute limit for an xbox so 480? Um, no... I can mod it to where it is black with a nice glowing blue x in the middle anyway and 120 GB? What, are they expecting us to get every single XBLA game to fill it up? Retarded..... I will get a ps3 if I want HDMI thank you....
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#319 bsager87
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Everyone who is **** about a "second rate" machine needs to look at the situation again. Do you own a TV, a car or a stereo? Is it the newest model, months old? No, your car is likely 4 years old, TV a year or more. New models come out, things change. People own Samsung CRT TV's, and don't complain that the company released LCD TV's, thus "Selling them out." Did Honda sell out all people who own one by releasing 2007 models this year? If you think Microsoft is stupid for releasing the new Box you again are not seeing the big picture. A system upgrade to the most popular system (The Wii is closing fast) will sell more units, add publicity and further the lead over the PS3. Take a good look before you go bashing on your older systems, besides you still play the same games the new one will.
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#320 2largeadults
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The difference is that we've come to expect that with TVs, cars, stereos, iPods, computers, operating systems, etc... etc... Gamers have never experienced that. I purchased an SNES and that was the nicest offering from Nintendo until the N64. I purchased a PlayStation from Sony and that was the nicest offering from Sony until the PS2. (Now, did they change parts on the inside? Yes. Did they make a cosmetic change with the PSOne? Yes. But the changes didn't add anything to the system) I purchased an Xbox from Microsoft and that was the nicest offering from Microsoft until the 360. I think the reason why so many people are upset is because they purchased their Xbox360 with the expectation that it would be the nicest offering from Microsoft until the next generation. If the rumor is true, there will be a system out that runs cooler, has HDMI, and has a larger hard drive. Yes, it still plays the same games as the Xbox360. But original adopters will feel that their system is no longer the latest, greatest thing. And while we've come to expect it in other fields of technology, this is really the 1st time (at least to my recollection...I could be wrong) that a company is offering a significant change and upgrade in hardware within the same generation. Hence, the namecalling from fans of other companies and the whining from Microsoft fans. (My take on it!)
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#321 KC_Hokie
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The odds are the new features, excluding the larger hard drive, are cheaper or the same price as the hardware on the first xbox 360 models for Microsoft to produce. Technology gets cheaper and more efficient and I find it odd people are shocked that they can offer a slight upgrade for the same production cost. It wouldn't make sense at this point with competing systems to not offer a slight upgraded version of the 360. (The larger hard drive is just an upgrade model like the $300 model and $400 model difference they have now, but instead they will add a 3rd model..no biggie) Like many posters have stated, all versions of the 360 will have to play all 360 games. I don't see why people are so angry when a company can offer a slightly more efficient model (many monetarily for Microsoft) and yet it won't effect the status of their current system other than computer nerds envying anyone with the newest and sexiest 360 offered by Microsoft. Microsoft already solved the whole computer nerd envy thing because ALL 360's HAVE TO PLAY THE SAME GAMES regardless of what little upgrades any new models might have!!!!
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#322 iwishiwasrich
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we know all the old xbox buying got screwed because they are selling the old1 for $50 ea when the new 1 realsease.
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#323 johnnyjr2
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These same people complaining about the Zephyr are also the people who were pissed that the 360 didn't come with HDMI or an HD-DVD drive to begin with.
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#324 subrosian
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These same people complaining about the Zephyr are also the people who were pissed that the 360 didn't come with HDMI or an HD-DVD drive to begin with. johnnyjr2
The vast majority of people complaining about the Zephyr upgrades are people who bought the 360 and view it as a status symbol. Now that a newer model is coming out, they can no longer show off their "premium" 360 as the top of the line. Frankly, it's all a bit immature, and at that it's incredibly mistaken. In the world of audio / video equipment, $400 is nothing. Instead of focusing on "who's got the best what" - we should focus on enjoying the experience. Want to spend more money on your setup? Get a surround sound system, save up some money for an HDTV or a projector, get an external USB hard drive and load it up with 160 gigs of your favorite music, et cetera...
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#325 deactivated-5a0d077de4037
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the main reason for this updated version of the 360 would be to reduce the risk of over heating with the new 65nm chip rather than the 90nm chip that is in the current ones.
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#326 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="johnnyjr2"]These same people complaining about the Zephyr are also the people who were pissed that the 360 didn't come with HDMI or an HD-DVD drive to begin with. subrosian
The vast majority of people complaining about the Zephyr upgrades are people who bought the 360 and view it as a status symbol. Now that a newer model is coming out, they can no longer show off their "premium" 360 as the top of the line. Frankly, it's all a bit immature, and at that it's incredibly mistaken. In the world of audio / video equipment, $400 is nothing. Instead of focusing on "who's got the best what" - we should focus on enjoying the experience. Want to spend more money on your setup? Get a surround sound system, save up some money for an HDTV or a projector, get an external USB hard drive and load it up with 160 gigs of your favorite music, et cetera...

Exactly. All Microsoft is doing is adding a 3rd XBOX 360 model that will cost more than the current higher end model ($80 more to be exact). And it will have to play all of the same games that the other two models play for the life of the system. It's not a big deal unless you are a computer nerd constantly needing the best stuff and are temporarily pissed you might have to upgrade. It's called a luxury since nothing on the new model is needed to play any game. And if someone felt the little added features were necessary they would have waited until a better version came out or for the PS3.
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#327 Deihmos
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="johnnyjr2"]These same people complaining about the Zephyr are also the people who were pissed that the 360 didn't come with HDMI or an HD-DVD drive to begin with. KC_Hokie
The vast majority of people complaining about the Zephyr upgrades are people who bought the 360 and view it as a status symbol. Now that a newer model is coming out, they can no longer show off their "premium" 360 as the top of the line. Frankly, it's all a bit immature, and at that it's incredibly mistaken. In the world of audio / video equipment, $400 is nothing. Instead of focusing on "who's got the best what" - we should focus on enjoying the experience. Want to spend more money on your setup? Get a surround sound system, save up some money for an HDTV or a projector, get an external USB hard drive and load it up with 160 gigs of your favorite music, et cetera...

Exactly. All Microsoft is doing is adding a 3rd XBOX 360 model that will cost more than the current higher end model ($80 more to be exact). And it will have to play all of the same games that the other two models play for the life of the system. It's not a big deal unless you are a computer nerd constantly needing the best stuff and are temporarily pissed you might have to upgrade. It's called a luxury since nothing on the new model is needed to play any game. And if someone felt the little added features were necessary they would have waited until a better version came out or for the PS3.

No one knows what is going on. They already said it was just something they did in Redmond with no plans to release to the public. People need to stop speculating. There were at least 5 different versions of the PS3 but only one was released to the public. I can assure you that there are other versions of the xbox also.
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#328 Vasichko
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[QUOTE="johnnyjr2"]These same people complaining about the Zephyr are also the people who were pissed that the 360 didn't come with HDMI or an HD-DVD drive to begin with. subrosian
The vast majority of people complaining about the Zephyr upgrades are people who bought the 360 and view it as a status symbol. Now that a newer model is coming out, they can no longer show off their "premium" 360 as the top of the line. Frankly, it's all a bit immature, and at that it's incredibly mistaken. In the world of audio / video equipment, $400 is nothing. Instead of focusing on "who's got the best what" - we should focus on enjoying the experience. Want to spend more money on your setup? Get a surround sound system, save up some money for an HDTV or a projector, get an external USB hard drive and load it up with 160 gigs of your favorite music, et cetera...

I dont care about status, I just care about HDMI. Is the new one supposed to have HD DVD internal?
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#329 subrosian
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="johnnyjr2"]These same people complaining about the Zephyr are also the people who were pissed that the 360 didn't come with HDMI or an HD-DVD drive to begin with. Vasichko
The vast majority of people complaining about the Zephyr upgrades are people who bought the 360 and view it as a status symbol. Now that a newer model is coming out, they can no longer show off their "premium" 360 as the top of the line. Frankly, it's all a bit immature, and at that it's incredibly mistaken. In the world of audio / video equipment, $400 is nothing. Instead of focusing on "who's got the best what" - we should focus on enjoying the experience. Want to spend more money on your setup? Get a surround sound system, save up some money for an HDTV or a projector, get an external USB hard drive and load it up with 160 gigs of your favorite music, et cetera...

I dont care about status, I just care about HDMI. Is the new one supposed to have HD DVD internal?

Why do you care about HDMI? Do you have a 1080p HDTV with an HDMI input but no VGA input, and the HD-DVD player? Or are you buying into the Best Buy phony baloney about the improved "signal quality" in that little three foot cable between the 360 and the TV? I have a copy of an ad on my PC in which BB shows the Geek squad playing on a 360 controller - the ad reads "Vista offers improved visuals for gaming. Of course we've tested it." This is IN SPITE of the fact that EVERY benchmark out has shown that Vista has worse performance than XP for DX9 gaming... so... don't buy into their marketing too much.
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#330 ScarfacedNinja
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Peter Moore (VP) said that the they knew nothing about the model at all. They said it was not in production at all too. It was in EGM.
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#331 haste2099
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well i hope they come out with it cause from my point of view the first 2 360's that i have owned crapped out on me i dont want to be constantly returning my busted 360 back for ( repairs )  i want one that works lol .
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#332 KC_Hokie
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Peter Moore (VP) said that the they knew nothing about the model at all. They said it was not in production at all too. It was in EGM.ScarfacedNinja
I'm not sure when he said that, but there is too much evidence that at the very least a slight upgraded version with a more efficient processor will be released. Microsoft is in deny mode as usual which makes sense because they want to sell as many current 360's in stores as possible. But, the rumors are too strong now and too many retail stores report a new 360 with a new sku and higher price tag. The version 2 will release near the time of the next ps3 wave on purpose (around May 1st)
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#333 Schumi7WDC
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We keep going back on if this thing exists or not, and there really is no point in arguing about that, it's more a matter of if it will appear around the time that has been suggested, or not.  There may not be a "Zephyr" out there, but there is unquestionably something different out there that will see the light of day. 

  It isn't rumor, it is recorded, certifiable fact, that the 360 will go to a 65nm chip sometime this year, that's been confirmed since early last year.  The HDD is also academic, it's just a matter of when.  We are just over a year into it's life cycle, people are already screaming for more space for downloads, the file size of demos is huge already and growing, with HD quality trailers, TV shows and Movies now all added to the available mix on live, it's a must, and every day more and more people join the HDTV legion, which means more and more people will start using up space downloading everything in HD instead of the the much smaller spaced STD. 

   PS3 already has a 60 gig, so there is competition, and it's just a matter of when.  There is no way that MS or any gaming console is going to launch a new HDD and not make it part of a console package, it would be stupid for them to only offer the 120 gig or whatever size it may be, as a standalone unit, and keep the premium as a 20 gig unit, it's a no brainer that if there is a larger HDD, it will be also part of a system package, and there is also very little chance that they would increase the HDD size 6 fold, and not increase the bundle price.  They are not making that much profit on the unit yet, to pass that one by. 

   The other situation, is that the system has some reliablity issues, a quieter DVD drive which has been rumored, that may fix some issues, but they already have made 3 different drives available in the system so far, so that's not a big thing.  There are other internals though that could use some work, and any body change to aid the overheating or any other issue would likely warrant a new SKU anyway, like a Playstation 2 = PS2 thing. 

    The HDMI port is another thing along the lines of HDD space. Look at almost all HDTV's, especially LCD flat panels which are the gamers HDTV of choice, all the 2006/2007 models, thier all adding HDMI ports and using them as a selling point, many of them have atleast 2 now and some 3 and there are a few with 4.  HDMI is phasing out other connections.  Microsoft worked with Samsung to develope thier popular Game Mode on thier LCDs, and thier a very popular gamers TV, and most of thier new TVs coming out, they have just a single Component hookup, and a single VGA port compared to 3 HDMI ports. It's what the Hi Def gamers are going to not only want, but need to have for thier 360. 

   I know, many people do not have HDTVs yet, but there are plenty that do, and that number is only growing, and we are talking about a system that likely has atleast another 3 or 4 more years of a lifespan if not longer.  There is now and will be even more of a demand for HDMI on the console, and it's a perfect idea to have a Premium of the Premium units to support it. 

   Most of these features are just academic as I said, they will be included some day reasonably soon to the xbox 360, I think the only reason they were not, is because they knew they needed to get the jump on Sony this gen, I mean the original xbox only had a 4 year life. They had to have sacrificed a few things that maybe they wanted to do in order to get the system out.  That also forced them to misjudge what the demand would be for some of these things.  I mean look at 2 years ago when a lot of the critical choices for the system were being made just before it's launch. 

   The VOD style of movie watching was just catching on, people were not downloading HD material in any substantial way.  HDDVD and Blu Ray didn't even exist on any tangible plain. HDMI was pretty much just something tech geeks jabbered about, and HDTV's maybe had 1 port.  There just were too many things coming on that there was no way to tell how people would react to all of it.  It's a rare time in technology right now, and all the rules for what a game console did 20 years ago means nothing.  Until the original xbox, no game console ever had a hardrive to begin with, and now it's a major focal point. 

   The only remaining question, is whether or not the console will be black or not, and personally I hope it is, since it would match my A/V equipment better. 

    BTW, does anybody have a link on this rumor about how "several stores report new SKUs"?  I heard about the Maier stores in Australia, but other than that, I have not heard about other stores, but people keep using this rumor that many store chains are saying that they have new SKUs.  Which stores, and where?   

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#334 KC_Hokie
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"you can’t keep a good rumor down. Just weeks after Microsoft stamped down talk that an HDMI-enabled Xbox 360, codenamed Zephyr, was in the works, the rumors are back. Retailers have confirmed that the new SKU is in their systems, set for a May 1 release for $479.99. In addition to the new video interface, the system would also pack a 120 GB hard drive into its nifty black exterior. Microsoft won’t officially confirm that such a configuration exists, but it’s interesting that so many retailers are wrong in the same way…" http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200702/N07.0216.1234.57890.htm http://gear.ign.com/articles/766/766047p1.html http://www.hdgamenews.com/2007/02/retailers-confirm-new-xbox-360-model-on.html http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157298 A new version of the 360 will be coming, but what upgrades will it have? Nobody has that answer yet. And no stores can officially announce they have an unannounced new version of the xbox 360. That breaks many rules with Microsoft and you don't want to fight a legal battle with them. Managers and workers at various stores across the world have reported the new SKU's, but the reporters are keeping their sources secret of course (part of being a journalist of any kid).
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Wow, a thread that is 34 pages long dedicated to a rumor that was debunked by Microsoft. Crazy.
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#336 subrosian
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Wow, a thread that is 34 pages long dedicated to a rumor that was debunked by Microsoft. Crazy.
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If you had read any of this thread you would be aware that Microsoft confirmed the existence of Zephyr, has been planning the 65nm move basically since the Xbox 360 came out, and a number of developer trade shows has shown varying hard drive sizes (70gb, 80gb, 100gb, et cetera). The video was real, it's not a rumor, stores have confirmed a new SKU is in the system... But yeah we're "crazy"... this crazy is going to be enjoying the heck out of his Zephyr unit when it comes out though ^_^.
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This is like spitting in the face of early adopters-Zaku-

I agree 

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#338 asmallchild
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[QUOTE="-Zaku-"]This is like spitting in the face of early adopterstheycallmeryan

I agree

Depends. For those who care about having the latest, greatest hardware offering, then yes. For those who just want to play Xbox360 games, both systems can do that. So not so much.
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#339 Sedin44
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Hey,

How much of difference will an HDMI slot make?  Will there be a noticable difference with HDMI on a 720p set?
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#340 asmallchild
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Hey,

How much of difference will an HDMI slot make? Will there be a noticable difference with HDMI on a 720p set?
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People say there is but I haven't noticed it.
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#341 jdang307
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Hey,

How much of difference will an HDMI slot make?  Will there be a noticable difference with HDMI on a 720p set?
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It's not just for video improvements. There is also audio improvments depending on if MS implements. Passthrough of 5.1 PCM from HD DVD movies are one (I believe HD DVD allows for PCM). if the rumor above regarding a 480 MSRP and 120gb are true, man not only did MS screw early adopters but really screwed those who bought the 20gb add ons. Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I just read it today, a bit old though: http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38113 The Inq is a suspect rumor site that is hit or miss on it's rumors and speculation.
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#342 ScarfacedNinja
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[QUOTE="Sedin44"]Hey,

How much of difference will an HDMI slot make?  Will there be a noticable difference with HDMI on a 720p set?
jdang307
It's not just for video improvements. There is also audio improvments depending on if MS implements. Passthrough of 5.1 PCM from HD DVD movies are one (I believe HD DVD allows for PCM). if the rumor above regarding a 480 MSRP and 120gb are true, man not only did MS screw early adopters but really screwed those who bought the 20gb add ons. Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I just read it today, a bit old though: http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38113 The Inq is a suspect rumor site that is hit or miss on it's rumors and speculation.

Wow! That looks real to me! That definetly looks like a 120GB hardrive! That's awesome!
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#343 derangedmnky420
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cmon, xbox should wait a few more years for some 360 games to come out, only been like 3 years im sure

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[QUOTE="Sedin44"]Hey,

How much of difference will an HDMI slot make?  Will there be a noticable difference with HDMI on a 720p set?
jdang307
It's not just for video improvements. There is also audio improvments depending on if MS implements. Passthrough of 5.1 PCM from HD DVD movies are one (I believe HD DVD allows for PCM). if the rumor above regarding a 480 MSRP and 120gb are true, man not only did MS screw early adopters but really screwed those who bought the 20gb add ons. Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I just read it today, a bit old though: http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38113 The Inq is a suspect rumor site that is hit or miss on it's rumors and speculation.

Interesting pics, thanks for posting the link. They don't mean anything though, because Devs have always gotten variations of the systems to work on and display. XDK (xbox Developers Kit) That extension is vented, so it's doubtful it's just a 120 GB HDD, it's probably an extended cooling system to allow the system to run on show floors for hours on end without any ill effects. It is interesting though that it would have the same ports that we are all talking about potentially being on the Zephyr, but who knows. IGN had an interview with Mr. Kim over GDC week, and he already admitted that MS may deal with the HDD shortcomings in storage this year, and he never outright denied the Zephyr, he merely said that he couldn't talk about it at this time, which sounds much more like something is up, rather than a total dismissal of it existing. I'm getting damned tired of waiting for this thing, though I can tell you that. I have been holding off of downloading more demos and HD content because I don't have the space, so I would welcome some real news.
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#345 ilovesandrine
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it comes out in may.

http://www.xboxic.com/news/2565

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#346 TheSystemLord1
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it comes out in may.

http://www.xboxic.com/news/2565

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Good, although it sounds like most of the stories on this subject, that article at least re-affirms that this is being talked about in the industry.  I still went out and bought a Playstation 3 in preparation for waiting until December for this thing, its good to know that I won't have to wait as long as I thought.
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#347 Akush47
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wow
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#348 kk29j
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This is my opinion on what will take place with the Zephyr. Rumors are that May 1st of this year (2007) the Zephyr will go one sale. I believe that the core will be discontinued and the premium will drop in price to $299.00. That will occur sometime around May.
When Halo 3 is released, Microsoft will introduce the Zephyr at the same time, just like Zelda and the Wii.
All in time for Xmas. Meanwhile with the premium drop in price sales should increase slightly.
My opinion only
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#349 Gregoroth
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^I don't agree with the 'Zephyr' debuting with Halo 3. Why wait so long if it could come out as early as May which many sources/consumers believe is what's going to happen? The hype and feedback from the HDMI port alone is reason enough to get it on shelves asap, even if many people don't even need it, lol! I think Xboxic.com has got it correct - 1. Core being discontinued 2. Premium price drop 3. 'Zephyr' debut in May
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#350 189302
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Considering I've been looking at getting a premium and the price may drop now, and I don't care all that much about HDMI I'm wondering if anyone knows whether the premiums will come with the 65nm chip if the zephyr gets released. Of course this would be speculation of speculation but I'm rather curious.