The Official Zephyr / Elite (Xbox 360 Version 2) Thread

[QUOTE="james9676"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="karmaortiz"]

shouldn't the topic title be "(Xbox 360 Version 3)", did someone forget about the core package or are they acting like it never existed.:P

BmXGrL389

Core and premium are of the same revision. Elite is a separate (second) revision, hence, the "#2" title.

They are the same but the premium has the xbox live in it

actually they both have xbox live, the core is just lacking a harddrive to save anything, a memory unit could be used but only to save a profile and a few saves 

Oh ok hehe sorry

[QUOTE="lordking65"]Can Microsoft be pulling an April fools on abus consumers out it comming about late April?Singh_iz_King

They most likely are not pulling an april fools joke because it's past April at my time. Also the elites have arledy shiped in

stores and they are puting the elite on sale April 29th and microsoft wants the core system to battle the wii because its going to be cheaper than it and also there useing the premium because some people like the premium beter than elite and they are yousing the microsoft xbox 360 Elite to battle Sony's playstation 3. That is why they are makeing microsoft xbox 360 elite in the first place.

The reason the Xbox 360 is split into three models is because of price segmentation. Essentially, Microsoft has  goal of getting each user at the highest price they're willing to pay. There are many other ways to do this - rebates, coupons, business-editions vs user editions.

Airlines used to segment the market by lowering ticket prices when you stayed over a weekend. The reason for this was they wanted to segment business travelers (who have a higher willingness to pay) from recreational customers (who would seek a bargain).

In Microsoft's case, the only way to segment the market effectively is with models. They have the core to capture people who would not pay $400 for the premium, yet at the same time guarantee the gamers who wanted the premium will not buy the core by removing the HD cables, making the controller wired, and making the cost of the hard drive match the price difference.

With the Elite, Microsoft offers a "top of the line" model - they make it visually distinct from the "regular" models, and include a feature (HDMI) not found on other models. They then aim this at customers who can't stand the idea of not owning "the best" - the visual change lets them play off the common belief in technology that newer is better. The 120gb hard drive gives it the image of being a powerful media machine, and a perceived advantage as the console with the most storage space on the market.

anyword on how we transfer data from our old 360s to the elite yet? btw when does it come out?BeNOwNz

http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/26/xbox-360-hard-drive-transfer-kit-hands-on/

The Elite's official release date is April 29th, but many people have already spotted it on store shelves here and there. 

Does the Elite make as much noise as the other versions? I heard the specs are the same and all that but...  thanks in advance.

Does the Elite make as much noise as the other versions? I heard the specs are the same and all that but...  thanks in advance.

bakalhau90

yeah its the same fan

Dude, 360 is just too gay for me.nhale1780

wow your cool no one cares nathan hale ps3 fanboy

Is Microsoft offering an option for people who already own a 360 to upgrade to an elite?gruntkiller1

Sadly no.  :( 

ill be getting the elite 2-3 days after it comes out

I just got home with the Elite (My first 360). Holy F this thing is loud. For those that are curious, it looks like this thing has all the same parts as the old one. No real differences. Can't do Xbox live just yet because I moved in to my first apartment here recently and the Time Warner guys haven't come to give me roadrunner...but other than that it looks nice! Black FTW!TheSystemLord1

 Played a friends new elite this morning, and I don't even hear the drive unless the sound is turned off on the tv.  Once we popped in Halo 2 (I don't own a 360, so no 360 games), we couldn't hear the drive at all.  TV sound set at 25(out of 100).

[QUOTE="gruntkiller1"]Is Microsoft offering an option for people who already own a 360 to upgrade to an elite?bigdogpg13

Sadly no.  :( 

that's crap

I'm loving my xbox 360 elite.

I was the first person to get this in my city.

quick question, just how long is the hdmi cable? my xbox is not going to be next to the tv and i was wondering if i could even use the hdmi cable at all. thanks.trj156

It is 6'.

I got a the elite this morning freakin sweet, the only problem is i signed on to XBL for the first time and i cant f***ing figure out how to play halo 2, i mean how the hell ya supposed to make friends on there. I went in to it thinking it was going to be like playing online with a pc, where you just jump in and play with a bunch of people. WTF?onenonle

Well gratz on the elite, but on Halo 2, just join a Matchmaking game, you can go into the settings of the Lobby and change to which one you want.  Also Download the Maps that are free.  Otherwise you can't play.  Just go into Xbox Live then downloads through halo 2.  Then once that go into a matchmaking game, join in and you will be put in with people based on your Level, and a random map and settings.  It works really good and you will soon relize how good matchmaking is.

i m thinking about buying the hardrive 120 can u transfer saved games achev and themes?

i m thinking about buying the hardrive 120 can u transfer saved games achev and themes?

quakebonedog

    Yeah, you can transfer all of those things, but I don't know if they got the arcade game situation sorted out. If you buy the HDD it comes with the transfer cable, but if you buy the Elite, it doesn't have the transfer cable, I know because I bought one yesterday.  I guess you can get a free one from MS though through the web. 

Will the Elite 360 play games smoother? thats all i want to know.jimi_man

   No not really, no.  I had my Elite over at my sister and brother in laws yesterday, and they have a premium, and there really wasn't any difference in terms of gameplay, I did think that the Elite seemed to have less menu lag, and maybe just a little smoother display, but that was more during dashboard use, and while it probably is a little more efficient system with the revisions, it's not enough that most people are going to notice anything, let alone anything significant.  It's essentially the identical hardware, just that the revised motherboard, may lead to a little more electronically efficient system.

How long does M$ plan on producing the Elite?whitetiger3521

For the rest of this console generation, that has already been officially announced, when they announced the launch date. There is still some speculation about how long it will be black though, and no official comment has been released on that.

[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]I just got home with the Elite (My first 360). Holy F this thing is loud. For those that are curious, it looks like this thing has all the same parts as the old one. No real differences. Can't do Xbox live just yet because I moved in to my first apartment here recently and the Time Warner guys haven't come to give me roadrunner...but other than that it looks nice! Black FTW!-F34R-

 Played a friends new elite this morning, and I don't even hear the drive unless the sound is turned off on the tv.  Once we popped in Halo 2 (I don't own a 360, so no 360 games), we couldn't hear the drive at all.  TV sound set at 25(out of 100).

   Yeah, I agree, I wouldn't say I couldn't hear the drive over a lower volume setting, but I owned a premium built in Feb 06, and the Elite is quite a bit quieter and somewhat cooler than that unit, so anyone still complaining about noise, be glad it is as good as it is now.  My 60 gig PS3 is just across the entertainment center from the Elite, and they are now much closer in sound output than they were with my old premium.  If the PS3's Blu Ray drive spun up faster than 2x, I'm sure it would be just as loud. 

I'm going to get an elite as my first next gen system.

 I am hoping to get it within a month. Hope to see all you guys online.

kk it comes with the r,y,w cables for normal tvs too right

because i won't be able to have it hooked up to my

HDTV all the time

kk it comes with the r,y,w cables for normal tvs too right

because i won't be able to have it hooked up to my

HDTV all the time

FredArmstrong

  Yeah, it comes with the composite/component adapter just like the premium does, then they threw in an HDMI cable and an audio adapter cable for use with the HDMI if you need it, so pretty much whatever setup you have, it's ready to work with it, right out of the box, if only all systems could have done this, but no, I had to drop down chunks of extra cash to have the same connectivity with my PS3.  I know I should get over that, but it still pisses me off.

Here's some pics from my ELITE HDMI in 1080i resolution. Take into consideration that these are off-screen pics.

Well, my premium got the 3 red lights the other day, when its fixed by MS, im goin to gamestop trading it in and pickin up the Elite. 

As of now the difference i would pay (plus a one year warranty) is $353.79.  I would continue to use my current 360 but I've had problems with it since I bought it in November (disk read errors), and I doubt it will be much better once MS "fixes" it. lol.  O well better to just count my loses buy an Elite and save myself from worring if my 360 is gonna break down again an again.

65nm comming this fall to an X360 near you.http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/9585.cfm tequilasunriser

cool

Should I wait for the new processors or just buy a 360 now?TheBlackKnightX

I'd wait until after the 65nm revision and see if the 360s problems persist in the new product line. If the problems persist... well, then I'm buying Sony's console. I'm not putting up with MS's crap if they continue to release shoddy system revisions. I'll pay the higher price for reliability...