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#1 Captyc
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i hate that i have to pay for my gold and gt subscriptions and they force developers to put fees on there dlc that they want to give out for free like epics games didnt want make any fees for dlc for gears and bungie was angry for the price that they had to put there ledgendery map pack and the price of every (accesories) M$ give us a break i bought a x360 just to play gta iv and other console exclusives then to find out i wanted more and every started to suck! who else doesn't like this :[

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#2 iam2green
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i don't have a problem paying for live but i do hate paying for game content. the PC has free mods that the 360 would have to pay for.
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#3 vashkey
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Peronally I find that Live is well forth fifty dollars a year(not that I've had to pay for it as of late thanks to all the Live subscriptions cards I got for my birthday and Christmas and the free 1 month live cards I get every tim I get RROD).

I do think Microsoft could lighted up on DLC though. I mean we're having to pay for theings we other wise shouldnt have to like the Orange box update and the Variety map pack in Call of Duty 4(was free on the PC on day 1, but it's still ten dollars on live).

It's not much of a big deal to me though. Like I said, I think Live is well worth the fee and the only DLC I really ever find worth paying for is for Halo 3. And I'll gladly pay for maps in that game.

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#4 OfficialBed
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i don't see why people still use "M$" to describe microsoft...every company likes money, deal with it...our world revolves around money...and i don't hate microsoft's fees...the only thing i dislike is having to pay for themes and gamerpics
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#5 coldtrimz
Member since 2005 • 301 Posts

World = Money

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#6 WaterLord0
Member since 2006 • 379 Posts
I think it ok to pay for X-box live but i hate that i have to pay for DLC.
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#7 DeadlyZodiac
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I think it's stupid to have to pay for themes and gamerpics. Themes are mostly just a couple of wallpaper images and gamerpics are essentially free advertising for a game.
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#8 coldtrimz
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I think it ok to pay for X-box live but i hate that i have to pay for DLC.WaterLord0
What is up with everyone putting "X-Box"? its Xbox
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#9 Gamerkat
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ITs stupid that the good GOW 2 maps cost like $6.00

Also, people cant play certain matchmaking without the $6.00 halo 3 maps

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#10 angryfodder
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I don't mind the cost for a years XBL, but I don't like paying to change my gamertag. You can't even change it when you buy a new xbl subscrition each year unless you start a new gamertag
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#11 WingedHero
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You pay for something good you get something good back.
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#12 theunloved
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Some DLC is expensive, but I guess it has to work out for both Microsoft and the game makers. Aside from all the content for Burnout (most of its free), it takes money to make these things so they charge for it. Though 800 points and up does pull on the money strings. Ugh lol.
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#13 Jaysonguy
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If these small fees are a problem then you picked the wrong hobby

Pick something free like reading books at the library because then you wont be out any money unless you're irresponsible

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#14 SSBFan12
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I really don't mind to tell you the truth.
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#15 Zach68486
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I definitely hate paying for DLC.
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#16 patrickhorta87
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I think it ok to pay for X-box live but i hate that i have to pay for DLC.WaterLord0

well it takes money to make the dlc so they need to make money back thats how a buisness works

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#17 patrickhorta87
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ITs stupid that the good GOW 2 maps cost like $6.00

Also, people cant play certain matchmaking without the $6.00 halo 3 maps

Gamerkat

when you bought gears didnt you get something in the package saying you get free maps. idid

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#18 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Gamerkat"]

ITs stupid that the good GOW 2 maps cost like $6.00

Also, people cant play certain matchmaking without the $6.00 halo 3 maps

patrickhorta87

when you bought gears didnt you get something in the package saying you get free maps. idid

He bought it used

He has no problem hurting the industry buying used games but when the industry charges to make up for people like him he gets upset

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#19 2pac_makaveli
Member since 2008 • 1681 Posts
Boy i am gettin so sick of seeing these threads this is like the 3rd one in 2 days, this is the realworld most things in it are not free.
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#20 Aslyum_Beast
Member since 2008 • 975 Posts

the fee for Xbox Live makes sense if you compare it to the pc:

sure, the PC games out there has free online play, but the cost of a computer that can run call of duty 4 and 5 is kinda about 600 decently. your getting out pretty well. the DLC, though, is a different story. Being a rock band player, i found myself spending about 30 dollars just for extra songs. also, I find it funny that people have to buy content for games like Call of duty 4 on xbox 360 when people on Pcs can just got get it without forking up any form of cards.

There is nothing we can do, though. we already took the bait, and now they are reeling us in. Mad about the cost of xbox live? blame the first 9000 players for even paying for halo 2 online. . .

(Oh, and no, i don't care about PS3 online, thank you)

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#21 2pac_makaveli
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

If these small fees are a problem then you picked the wrong hobby

Pick something free like reading books at the library because then you wont be out any money unless you're irresponsible

exactly and since when is $6.00 a lot of money? just pretend u ate at subway for lunch
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#22 ghstbstr
Member since 2006 • 8790 Posts

Topics like this are getting old, and I am tired of seeing them.

You have to pay to play so deal with it.

Also Microsoft doesn't care what you or anyone thinks, because over the past few years if they wanted to they would have made everything free of what people are complaining about paying for. Microsoft won't make anything free because people are paying for these things anyways because if they want it then they have no choice but to pay for it.

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#23 ratavaquera
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thats why i dont like/buy DLC

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#24 ratavaquera
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thats why i dont like/buy DLC
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#25 Bansheezs
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By far the worst is having to pay for more songs for DDR from the DL content. The songs are already on the disc, all you dl is a patch so that it allows the xbox to play them. That is complete abuse of DLC.
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#26 deactivated-65441e217e74c
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i also do not mind paying the 50-60 dollars a year for xbox live gold. The service is miles above the playstation network. I have both a ps3 and a 360 , and i cannot belive how long it takes me to download things some days off the PSN. I would also rather pay Sony 50 bucks a year for them to create an online service that is comparible to microsofts. As for game content... if you cant afford the 5 bucks to buy the extra content. then dont buy it and stop complaining. If your goign to drop aroudn 300 bucks or more for a console, 60 bucks for a game, 30-40 bucks a month for highspeed internet at your house, and your complaining the download costs 5 bucks. You dont have your financial planning worked out to well.
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#27 xmen1414
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i don't have a problem paying for live but i do hate paying for game content. the PC has free mods that the 360 would have to pay for. iam2green
I Agree!!
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#28 sdoxas
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I don't feel like paying $10 to play the Fallout 3 DLC. Too rich for my blood.
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#29 RiggsSR9
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you get what you pay for if you dont like it get a ps3 with crappy free online, a lackluster game library, and little to no noteworthy exclusives.
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#30 djrobst
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most devs on the pc would love to charge for dlc. but the fact is they can barley charge for the games without them getting cracked and dished online for free, and dlc would be even easier to crack so they dont have much choice
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#31 armyman455
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the problem i have is that 360 games are ten more bucks than pc we gotta pay for live service thos im actually not too upset about but here what really pisses me off is the fact that now (remembering how much extra we have already payed) we gotta pay for more content thats what annoys me
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#32 Jaysonguy
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the problem i have is that 360 games are ten more bucks than pc we gotta pay for live service thos im actually not too upset about but here what really pisses me off is the fact that now (remembering how much extra we have already payed) we gotta pay for more content thats what annoys mearmyman455

So after a game is done you want the developers to keep on working on it for free?

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#33 armyman455
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[QUOTE="armyman455"]the problem i have is that 360 games are ten more bucks than pc we gotta pay for live service thos im actually not too upset about but here what really pisses me off is the fact that now (remembering how much extra we have already payed) we gotta pay for more content thats what annoys meJaysonguy

So after a game is done you want the developers to keep on working on it for free?

they do it for the pc for free why wouldnt they for the 360 plus companies (like valve) have stated if you buy the game you should get any content for the game for free because good companies that make good games continue to support their good games
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#34 armyman455
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also i was totally psyched about the Fallout 3 DLC coming out untill i found out to buy all three of them its another 30 bucks i mean they might as well be making another game for that price games like Bunrout paradise and Bioshock are 30 bucks right now and they are full games
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#35 Captyc
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hey again wow i gt alot of comments umm i think xbl isn't soo bad but do sony users have to pay, no and ppl are saying that it cost money to make dlc but most companys didnt want to charge for dlc because dlc makes more sales, and you gt more money wen more sales come then only some buy dlc, read up on wiki look up 'dlc' then look at the bottom. i no 6$ isn't much but all the dlc you get for that game will add up and the other games you buy, plus just because you dont buy much doesnt mean anything, wat will it be like if there wasnt a charge i bet all of us will have the 500+ on rb2 and all the maps for our halo cod and gears and we would have very unique gamer pics from each other because we would buy more dont say you dont mind say this is ****
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#36 RushMetallica
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I hate paying extra to be able to watch movies, live should be cheaper, not free but cheaper since PSN has gotten alot better. And the dlc should be free, or at least payable through legit gamerscore.
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#37 UT_Wrestler
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If I can get DLC for free on the pc version of a game, I don't understand why I should be charged for it on xbl.
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#38 patrickhorta87
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[QUOTE="patrickhorta87"][QUOTE="Gamerkat"]

ITs stupid that the good GOW 2 maps cost like $6.00

Also, people cant play certain matchmaking without the $6.00 halo 3 maps

Jaysonguy

when you bought gears didnt you get something in the package saying you get free maps. idid

He bought it used

He has no problem hurting the industry buying used games but when the industry charges to make up for people like him he gets upset

well if he wants ill give him the damn code becaus ei dont play online so i have no use for them. maybe he doesnt understand how a buisness works. if i spend my time making something that cost us money yeah im going to charge for it, so that we can make money to put towards other projects

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#39 KGB32
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if i can afford these games, i can afford live easy.
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#40 Lance_Kalzas
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hey again wow i gt alot of comments umm i think xbl isn't soo bad but do sony users have to pay, no and ppl are saying that it cost money to make dlc but most companys didnt want to charge for dlc because dlc makes more sales, and you gt more money wen more sales come then only some buy dlc, read up on wiki look up 'dlc' then look at the bottom. i no 6$ isn't much but all the dlc you get for that game will add up and the other games you buy, plus just because you dont buy much doesnt mean anything, wat will it be like if there wasnt a charge i bet all of us will have the 500+ on rb2 and all the maps for our halo cod and gears and we would have very unique gamer pics from each other because we would buy more dont say you dont mind say this is ****Captyc

I hated reading your post. How about you rewrite it to make it easier for us to understand what it is you're trying to say???

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#41 patrickhorta87
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

If these small fees are a problem then you picked the wrong hobby

Pick something free like reading books at the library because then you wont be out any money unless you're irresponsible

2pac_makaveli

exactly and since when is $6.00 a lot of money? just pretend u ate at subway for lunch

you know what ive noticed, anyone who has tupac in any of their screen names actually speak the truth and know what they are talking about. ha ha i just thought that was weird, and basically 6.00 is what you will pay to eat anywhere nowadays

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#42 lilasianwonder
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I hate paying for DLC more than live fees.
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#43 djrobst
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i hate how you have to buy the console and games, and pads, then pay for the electricity. when people who steal consoles, games and pads and dont pay there bills dont have to pay. that sucks
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#44 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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[QUOTE="Gamerkat"]

ITs stupid that the good GOW 2 maps cost like $6.00

Also, people cant play certain matchmaking without the $6.00 halo 3 maps

patrickhorta87

when you bought gears didnt you get something in the package saying you get free maps. idid

They could have been on the disk the only reason it wasnt was to fight used games
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#45 limpbizkit818
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Well, Microsoft is the publisher of Gears and Halo, so they have the same amount of say in DLC price as the developers. As for paying $50 a year for XBL Gold I do agree with you: total rip off.
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#46 raylewisnfl52
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I dont have a problem I guess cause if gaming companies were told that they werent going to get anything for there DLC then they would not make any
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#47 patrickhorta87
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[QUOTE="patrickhorta87"][QUOTE="Gamerkat"]

ITs stupid that the good GOW 2 maps cost like $6.00

Also, people cant play certain matchmaking without the $6.00 halo 3 maps

SAGE_OF_FIRE

when you bought gears didnt you get something in the package saying you get free maps. idid

They could have been on the disk the only reason it wasnt was to fight used games

yeah so he expects to get a group of maps fro free when we paid 60 for gear new and that was our little gift for buying it new.

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#48 patrickhorta87
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Well, Microsoft is the publisher of Gears and Halo, so they have the same amount of say in DLC price as the developers. As for paying $50 a year for XBL Gold I do agree with you: total rip off.limpbizkit818

why do you think ms charges you money for live? because it cost money to run it. just because ms has billions of dollars doesnt mean they are going to set this up for free. it takes money to make money and thats what they are doing

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#49 limpbizkit818
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[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]Well, Microsoft is the publisher of Gears and Halo, so they have the same amount of say in DLC price as the developers. As for paying $50 a year for XBL Gold I do agree with you: total rip off.patrickhorta87

why do you think ms charges you money for live? because it cost money to run it. just because ms has billions of dollars doesnt mean they are going to set this up for free. it takes money to make money and thats what they are doing

Almost every game on Live is P2P :| Silver members have accuss to everything minus playing online.

They use the "it takes money to run the servers!" excuse to get people to fork over $50. If Steam and X-Fire can be free on the PC than so should XBL.

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#50 RedChuckz
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you get what you pay for if you dont like it get a ps3 with crappy free online, a lackluster game library, and little to no noteworthy exclusives. RiggsSR9
Wow your ignorant my friend have looked the PS3 games that are coming out, and the games they have right now stop being such a FAN BOY. What about Xbox exclusives Gears2 the only good thing about it is SP everything else is garbage.