Why is the gaming industry rushing games???

I think the games are just getting too complex production wise to stay in line with expected release dates. The industry still wants to keep the old turn around times between versions but the games take longer and longer to make. The bigger maps, more and more textures on everything, it just takes more time.

Either you will have to wait longer for games (studios lose money, miss the holiday season, etc) or consumers have to deal with rushed games. I don't see a fix really.

I think COD4 and COD5 did it right by at least using two studios working at the same time, one on a re-skin and one on the full new version. It's not perfect but it seems like a good compromise.

It's up to the producers... they have the power to release a game or to hold it back... the main problem is that if it takes the developers longer to make a game than the producers had planned, then that's more money out of the producer's pockets... it's really all about money for a producer... they want to gain the most money possible without having to pay for development delays...a55a55inx

[QUOTE="a55a55inx"]It's up to the producers... they have the power to release a game or to hold it back... the main problem is that if it takes the developers longer to make a game than the producers had planned, then that's more money out of the producer's pockets... it's really all about money for a producer... they want to gain the most money possible without having to pay for development delays...Avenger1324

So true, I'm sick of paying 40 quid for a game thats pretty much in the beta stage and full of bugs. I'm looking at you Gears2!

I really don't think games are rushed. Well ... unless you consider games made as a result of a movie. For example, Iron Man, Pixar movies, and don't forget Jumper. I really don't consider them serious games because they are rushed and ... well they suck. I believe it may depend on the size of the company, how many resources they have at their disposal for the project, and how well the QA department cleans up glitches in the game before being released.

Besides the movie type and sports games, most games seem to be on a 2 to 3 year plan. Which seems just right to me. BUT there is one game that's taking way to long to release .... WHERE'S MASS EFFECT 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they are two poor examples of games being rushed. not all games that are rushed have to be sequels either. i believe they both received reviews from most sources equal to or better than the previous game. yea, they had problems but many of the big issues were fixed through patches

I really don't think games are rushed. Well ... unless you consider games made as a result of a movie. For example, Iron Man, Pixar movies, and don't forget Jumper. I really don't consider them serious games because they are rushed and ... well they suck. I believe it may depend on the size of the company, how many resources they have at their disposal for the project, and how well the QA department cleans up glitches in the game before being released.

Besides the movie type and sports games, most games seem to be on a 2 to 3 year plan. Which seems just right to me. BUT there is one game that's taking way to long to release .... WHERE'S MASS EFFECT 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

XCyberForceX

I don't see how Gears 2 was rushed since it was in development for at least 2 years. It has some glitches that they need to fix but I think calling it a flop is pretty harsh. I've also heard some pretty good things about Vegas 2 so exactly how was that rushed?Lance_Kalzas

I don't see how Gears 2 was rushed since it was in development for at least 2 years. It has some glitches that they need to fix but I think calling it a flop is pretty harsh. I've also heard some pretty good things about Vegas 2 so exactly how was that rushed?Lance_Kalzas

It is my opion you dont have to agree with it, it took them over 2 months to solve the gears 2 problem and waiting twenty minutes for a match...I say FLOP! and btw dont come into a board saying "you heard its good" and try to make an arguement about it, play both vegas games, I promise, im not a liar. And where have you been? Ive never seen a game do better than its predecessor let alone even compare after only two years of development...seriously, thats no time at all!...at least if you want people to buy it. They wanted money. Epic themselves said dont look at this as gears 1.5. Why should they have to worry about that? Because they knew they rushed it, and were scared that people werent going to be impressed. If I cant convince you then please tell me, what did gears 2 and vegas 2 do better in? All I saw was them feeding off the success...

Money is probably the primary reason, also when they make a date but find that the game won't be 'as good as it could be' on that date, alot are scared to make the date later because of the reaction they get from the customers who are awaiting the release, IMO i'd prefer them to just release it when ready. GeoW2's matchmaking system is horrific. But yeah, if they do announce a later release date than what they've already announced, people get ticked off and refuse to buy the game on the actual date, stubborn as it sounds, it's pretty true in my experience :P

-Richie

I don't see how Gears 2 was rushed since it was in development for at least 2 years. It has some glitches that they need to fix but I think calling it a flop is pretty harsh. I've also heard some pretty good things about Vegas 2 so exactly how was that rushed?Lance_Kalzas

It must be more profitable to have more games out at a lower quality than less games out at a higher quality. That way, they can rely on a carefully timed media-wash with their promotions and advertising. It's a simple marketing technique actually, and it's bound to hold the industry back in the long-term.

MONEY!!!!

But what about GTA4? That certainly wasn't released early, though it was obviously rushed in the end.

I find it very hard to believe that someone who has played the earlier gta games could NOT be disappointed by all the faults of gta 4 after years of delays.

Seems like some game developers should know their limitations and not bite off more than they can chew.

But as long as they get reviews and sales like that, why should they try harder?

WE PAY ENOUGH FOR GAMES, WE SHOULD NOT ACCEPT THIS CRAP!

[QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"]I don't see how Gears 2 was rushed since it was in development for at least 2 years. It has some glitches that they need to fix but I think calling it a flop is pretty harsh. I've also heard some pretty good things about Vegas 2 so exactly how was that rushed?def_mode

Better produced games over the long run make more money. Especially games that have add on content and offer online experiences. Another missed opportunity for producers is coop play. There's a huge demand in the marketplace for playing with a friend and making it a social experience. However, that means giving the developers the time to develop some really good innovative games. Maybe we should put this idea on our wish list.

[QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"]I don't see how Gears 2 was rushed since it was in development for at least 2 years. It has some glitches that they need to fix but I think calling it a flop is pretty harsh. I've also heard some pretty good things about Vegas 2 so exactly how was that rushed?Lamb-of-God

It is my opion you dont have to agree with it, it took them over 2 months to solve the gears 2 problem and waiting twenty minutes for a match...I say FLOP! and btw dont come into a board saying "you heard its good" and try to make an arguement about it, play both vegas games, I promise, im not a liar. And where have you been? Ive never seen a game do better than its predecessor let alone even compare after only two years of development...seriously, thats no time at all!...at least if you want people to buy it. They wanted money. Epic themselves said dont look at this as gears 1.5. Why should they have to worry about that? Because they knew they rushed it, and were scared that people werent going to be impressed. If I cant convince you then please tell me, what did gears 2 and vegas 2 do better in? All I saw was them feeding off the success...

You are correct, it is your opinion. About Vegas 2? I guess I need to actually state the fact that I've never played it. I implied as much when I said "I've also heard some pretty good things about Vegas 2"...

What did Gears 2 do better? Hmm...There's a whole list of features that Gears 2 has that Gears 1 does not but I guess I can list my favorites. I thought the campaign was a lot longer, significantly more detailed in both plot and character development, the new chainsaw animations are improved over part 1, and Horde mode is an excellent addition. I really enjoy the new weapons, such as the flame thrower and that Kantus weapon. To me, they added enough stuff to where they can call it a sequel but I'm not someone who has the typical complaint of "If it plays like the first one, then it's not really a sequel". Why fix what isn't broken?

Gears 2 MP? I don't like the Gears style of MP, I prefer Halo's actually but I do love the Horde mode in Gears 2. I've had so much fun with. Your post above is your opinion and my opinion of that is I think that you let the hype build up your expectations to unnecessarily high levels and there is only one person to blame for it. Take offense if you want but, like I said in another post, I think people should just chill out and enjoy video games for what they're meant to be for: A fun experience.

[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"]I don't see how Gears 2 was rushed since it was in development for at least 2 years. It has some glitches that they need to fix but I think calling it a flop is pretty harsh. I've also heard some pretty good things about Vegas 2 so exactly how was that rushed?Lance_Kalzas

Why should I accept that they did a worse job than the first game? That doesnt make any sense! Why should I be happy with a less improved, chopped excuse of an attempt to salvage some money? You can, I refuse!

Is it me or do games that are coming out starting to seem rushed and under-developed. My favorite game, gears of war was one of these exceptions. To me gears 2 was a flop and it very much upsets me. Vegas2 was also rushed. These were going to be great games if the development teams had not rushed them from development. to store shelves The reason I am writing this is because im afraid they are going to do it again! Modern Warfare was a great game and i truelly appreciated the multiplayer concept \ (as the competitive multiplayer dude I am) but this game seems like it is going to come out WAY before it should. I mean think about how fast vegas2 and gears2 came out. To me it obviously showed when it hit shelves, they were lackluster in comparision to their predecessors. Im tired of it and I dont want to see it happen again to another game I love.Lamb-of-God

Gears of War 2 was NOT a flop. wtf are you talking about? It is loads better than the first. 2 years is a pretty good amount of time to be in development, so stop complaining!!

[QUOTE="Lamb-of-God"]

[QUOTE="Lance_Kalzas"]I don't see how Gears 2 was rushed since it was in development for at least 2 years. It has some glitches that they need to fix but I think calling it a flop is pretty harsh. I've also heard some pretty good things about Vegas 2 so exactly how was that rushed?Lance_Kalzas

It is my opion you dont have to agree with it, it took them over 2 months to solve the gears 2 problem and waiting twenty minutes for a match...I say FLOP! and btw dont come into a board saying "you heard its good" and try to make an arguement about it, play both vegas games, I promise, im not a liar. And where have you been? Ive never seen a game do better than its predecessor let alone even compare after only two years of development...seriously, thats no time at all!...at least if you want people to buy it. They wanted money. Epic themselves said dont look at this as gears 1.5. Why should they have to worry about that? Because they knew they rushed it, and were scared that people werent going to be impressed. If I cant convince you then please tell me, what did gears 2 and vegas 2 do better in? All I saw was them feeding off the success...

You are correct, it is your opinion. About Vegas 2? I guess I need to actually state the fact that I've never played it. I implied as much when I said "I've also heard some pretty good things about Vegas 2"...

What did Gears 2 do better? Hmm...There's a whole list of features that Gears 2 has that Gears 1 does not but I guess I can list my favorites. I thought the campaign was a lot longer, significantly more detailed in both plot and character development, the new chainsaw animations are improved over part 1, and Horde mode is an excellent addition. I really enjoy the new weapons, such as the flame thrower and that Kantus weapon. To me, they added enough stuff to where they can call it a sequel but I'm not someone who has the typical complaint of "If it plays like the first one, then it's not really a sequel". Why fix what isn't broken?

Gears 2 MP? I don't like the Gears style of MP, I prefer Halo's actually but I do love the Horde mode in Gears 2. I've had so much fun with. Your post above is your opinion and my opinion of that is I think that you let the hype build up your expectations to unnecessarily high levels and there is only one person to blame for it. Take offense if you want but, like I said in another post, I think people should just chill out and enjoy video games for what they're meant to be for: A fun experience.

I see where you are coming from, but you stated"...but I'm not someone who has the typical complaint of "If it plays like the first one, then it's not really a sequel". Why fix what isn't broken?" Well. You see the problem with that is that it doesnt play like geras 1 at all...in fact you couldnt even get a match for the longest,then they setup matches that are 1 vs 5? Dont get me wrong, I stomped them, but that shouldnt even be tollerable amongst gamers! Especially if it like every single game, is an unfair match. Why do that? Another thing, the campaign was terrible, i mean the queen just drops from the story, skorge is a terrible excuse of a boss, it took three months to get a match literally! They should have just sent letters in the box saying wait til we fix it to play it. I mean come on, they added a few weapons and thats a good enough reason to be considered as good as gears 1 let alone be a true sequel? Its not even about the weapons its about the presentation and it failed...The only thing i will say im glad came from this are torque bow headshots, horde, and...well nothing else, o your right the chainsaw animations are better, but really how many times are you gonna try to chainsaw someone before you realize that your not going to chainsaw that guy with the shotgun, or any gun for that matter.

They want to make money!!!! That's all that matters to them!!!Djdiddles77

yeh right, where did you get that bulls... from, they make games to try and entertain other people, just like films and other stuff like that, they put in plenty of money of there own and time to make you games, and this is the way you treat them, you guys are disgraceful, they can't keep everyone happy but saying there games are rushed so they can make money is just nonsenes, yes they want money but they put in hours of work, day and night to make sure you get a decent game that can keeps you entertained, if you did'nt like the game then just get rid of it and play another one. wake up people you think everyone is out there to scam you of your money.

wake up people you think everyone is out there to scam you of your money.

jackelzx

You are right that they aren't trying to "scam" us out of our money but the industry is however just that, an industry and it would be naive to assume that they are only making games out of the kindness of their hearts to make the world a better place.

It would also be naive to ignore the ever more apparent trend (within the console world, its nothing new for PC) of shipping incomplete games only to fix them with patches later.

Hmm. Developer studios need to make some basic development tools for item/graphics between visually similar games.

EX: A shirt in HD is a shirt in HD. A clothing editor that lets you make clothing and tweek the style, along with similar apps, may save time and money, if they haven't been made already.

Yeah! Gears 2 is awesome but for some odd reason, the matchmaking take 20+ minutes for me to play.

and i hope that nothing bad happens to MW2.

But i dont get if a game isnt that good and doesnt sell well, then wouldnt it be a waste. i think logically if the game is worked hard on and makes great sales for months it could be worth more then it would be if was out 2 months earlier. ten times better!

[QUOTE="jackelzx"]

wake up people you think everyone is out there to scam you of your money.

Wakey652

You are right that they aren't trying to "scam" us out of our money but the industry is however just that, an industry and it would be naive to assume that they are only making games out of the kindness of their hearts to make the world a better place.

It would also be naive to ignore the ever more apparent trend (within the console world, its nothing new for PC) of shipping incomplete games only to fix them with patches later.

well put sir, thank you

[QUOTE="Djdiddles77"]They want to make money!!!! That's all that matters to them!!!jackelzx

yeh right, where did you get that bulls... from, they make games to try and entertain other people, just like films and other stuff like that, they put in plenty of money of there own and time to make you games, and this is the way you treat them, you guys are disgraceful, they can't keep everyone happy but saying there games are rushed so they can make money is just nonsenes, yes they want money but they put in hours of work, day and night to make sure you get a decent game that can keeps you entertained, if you did'nt like the game then just get rid of it and play another one. wake up people you think everyone is out there to scam you of your money.

i put A LOT of my time into those games i really loved them so i know what im talking about when it comes to those games. but what i dont understand is why havent you been reading all the comments before you post. A LOT of people have been putting facts of how these said games went wrong, and though some of us think they were terrible and others feel it was good but not living up to its predecessors the point is there were issues and a blandness to these sequels, so yes that would make it a scam, not as extreme as you say but they know that they should have tried harder before they released those games, they fed off of the hype. period.