Will Kane & Lynch Become The Lowest User Ranked Game Ever?

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#1 mernmern
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Sure there are some extenuating circumstances behind the meteoric drop in score, but what does that mean? Does it serve a purpose? Is the recent scoring of the game the best message the public can send to Eidos and Gamespot? My initial thought is yes. It is not a weak grammatically incorrect petition, but a simple poll that shows how concerned people and demonstrates their willingness to express their discontent, or perhaps their agreement.

In short, score the Kane & Lynch game according to how you feel about the issues at hand. I for one, would like to see how it turns out.

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#2 Scarface_tm431
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I could care less about Jeff being fired because people get fired all the time at different jobs for various reasons. The game is great IMO. I wouldn't go and rate it low because a reviewer got fired
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#3 bazanger
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it's a fantastic game, that would be idiotic to rate it low just because a reviewer got fired. i liked jeff, but his review of kane & lynch was bull****.
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#5 Scarface_tm431
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lol Sorry Angel, but really, making one of those 1.0 reviews is unfair to the game it's self. I hope GS deletes all of them made after November 27 because it's just spam
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#6 bazanger
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lol Sorry Angel, but really, making one of those 1.0 reviews is unfair to the game it's self. I hope GS deletes all of them made after November 27 because it's just spam Scarface_tm431
i agree.
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#7 bazanger
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by the way angel, since you're really pissing me off now, before you say i have bad taste, PLAY THE ****ING GAME FOR YOURSELF.
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#8 angelfly
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by the way angel, since you're really pissing me off now, before you say i have bad taste, PLAY THE ****ING GAME FOR YOURSELF.ctfvyrsgurbnorn

Who said I didn't play it?

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#9 bazanger
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[QUOTE="ctfvyrsgurbnorn"]by the way angel, since you're really pissing me off now, before you say i have bad taste, PLAY THE ****ING GAME FOR YOURSELF.angelfly

Who said I didn't play it?

your own gamercard
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#10 Scarface_tm431
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If you haven't played through the story or tried online you shouldn't say anything about the game...also someone with Bulletwitch and DOA X2 on their GT shouldn't criticize other peoples taste
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#11 bazanger
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If you haven't played through the story or tried online you shouldn't say anything about the game...also someone with Bulletwitch and DOA X2 on their GT shouldn't criticize other peoples tasteScarface_tm431
thank you :)
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#12 angelfly
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[QUOTE="angelfly"]

[QUOTE="ctfvyrsgurbnorn"]by the way angel, since you're really pissing me off now, before you say i have bad taste, PLAY THE ****ING GAME FOR YOURSELF.ctfvyrsgurbnorn

Who said I didn't play it?

your own gamercard

I don't have to own a game to play it.

edit: lol at the cheapshots on Bulletwitch and DOAX2 but I see your point. I didn't play the game and didn't like it though. But even if I didn't like it I would have still done the 1.0 review because of the eidos' unethical business practices. The only ones you should be sorry for are Io Interactive since they developed it and have to suffer because of what their publisher did.

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#13 secondomen
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I could care less about Jeff being fired because people get fired all the time at different jobs for various reasons. The game is great IMO. I wouldn't go and rate it low because a reviewer got firedScarface_tm431

I reviewed it low because it deserved a low score. No online coo was a deal breaker for me, the loose aiming doesnt make the game feel any more realistic, just makes shooting a frustration...something a game nowadays shouldnt do. Not to mention the broken cover mechanics. I was more excited about this game than Assassins Creed for all the mulitplayer...but that all went out the window on release day when I found out there was no online coop!

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#14 Scarface_tm431
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If you take your time to shoot and don't just spray and pray it's not hard at all actually. Take some cover, let your reticule get small and then shoot in short bursts it's not that hard. People complain about the cover mechanic BUT I don't see what the trouble is. Have your back kinda to a wall/pillar (or whatever your taking cover with) and then go towards it. That makes more sense to me then just running straight into something and expecting to be put in cover.

Also in defense of the cover system, no one should complain about K&L's cover system without complaining about Mass Effect's, I had more trouble with ME's than K&L's. I was however dissappointed that there was no online co-op story as well, it's something you'd expect to be there with how much fun this game is co-op.

I also forgot to say, even if you think the game deserves a low score, there's no way it deserves a 1

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#15 bazanger
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[QUOTE="ctfvyrsgurbnorn"][QUOTE="angelfly"]

[QUOTE="ctfvyrsgurbnorn"]by the way angel, since you're really pissing me off now, before you say i have bad taste, PLAY THE ****ING GAME FOR YOURSELF.angelfly

Who said I didn't play it?

your own gamercard

I don't have to own a game to play it.

you do realize that every game you play goes in your gamercard, and not just the ones you own, right?
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#16 Land-0-Funk
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I know those advertisements on Game Spot's main page really make me want to buy this game :P
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#17 kozzy1234
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Kane and Lynch is a terrible terrible game

One of the years worst

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#18 angelfly
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[QUOTE="angelfly"][QUOTE="ctfvyrsgurbnorn"][QUOTE="angelfly"]

[QUOTE="ctfvyrsgurbnorn"]by the way angel, since you're really pissing me off now, before you say i have bad taste, PLAY THE ****ING GAME FOR YOURSELF.ctfvyrsgurbnorn

Who said I didn't play it?

your own gamercard

I don't have to own a game to play it.

you do realize that every game you play goes in your gamercard, and not just the ones you own, right?

I know that but if I play a game over a friends house then it does not. I'm sure you've played 360 that aren't on your gamercard while at a firends house.

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#19 Chogyam
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good publictiy, bad publicity. it's publicty non the less. All this hub bub has intreaged me more about this game. so I'll get it now
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#20 Soulreaver9
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If you gave the game a low score because you didn't like it after playing it and thought it was bad thats fine. But don't try to score a game low because of some news you hear that you happen to not agree with.The rating system is there to rate your score on the game not your personal feelings on a rumor. Since the reason for his departure is still unknown i'll keep my mouth shut on the subject. But if it turns out to be true then make a poll about your disagreement, its fast,easy and thats what its there for.

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#21 deactivated-5de2fb6a3a711
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people need to get over it. jeff's gone, there's some hate on Kane And Lynch, and life goes on.
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#22 mernmern
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Soul -

I agree with you in prinicpal. The user score for games, while a forum of sorts, is not intended to be a platform for expression beyond that of subjective views regarding quality and enjoyment. However, the damage has been done. The scoring of the game has already become a negative outlet. So, should those that agree with the reported actions of CNET and Eidos give the game a 10 rating? Should those that are waiting for more information give it a 5? I for one am not sure, but since the score clearly has nothing to do with the game it self, it has become an unofficial poll of sorts.

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#23 savetehhaloz
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Im gona boycott Eidos for this... picks up christmas list and erases Hitman Blood Money.

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#24 Scarface_tm431
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Im gona boycott Eidos for this... picks up christmas list and erases Hitman Blood Money.

savetehhaloz

Why not Boycott GS as well?

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#25 dslover
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then i wouldn't have no where to complain.
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#26 Cruxis27
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This is so stupid... I bet more than half the peple that "reviewed" the game didin't even play it.
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#27 bazanger
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This is so stupid... I bet more than half the peple that "reviewed" the game didin't even play it.Cruxis27
no kidding, the majority haven't. also boycotting them is stupid, i still enjoy their games like Hitman, and hitman remains on my christmas list.
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#28 Darkzero6x2
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i think its dumb for someone to lose their job over something like this. completely. forget eidos entertainment and Kane and Lynch. that game was aweful. it had waay too many bugs in it. 6.0 was him being nice. they would have gotten lower if it were me
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#29 fatty5xl
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whoa i think this game really really sucks . whatever this jeff guy says. with such good games out there the ppl. responsible should hang there head in shame or a noose
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#30 RudeYeT1
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Wait Jeff was fired? The guy who gave Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 a 10?

Wow I can have a good day now

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#31 beex215
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i played kane and lynch on pc and found it fun but short.the game went a bit off at like stage 9 or so.
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#32 angelfly
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whoa i think this game really really sucks . whatever this jeff guy says. with such good games out there the ppl. responsible should hang there head in shame or a noosefatty5xl

BRING THE NOOSE!!!!

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#33 Sigmond
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You know I don't really hang around GS except to look at reviews and news and the like. But honestly people grow up. Reviewing a game badly based entirly on news that you don't even know is correct is just plain stupid. Yes he's probably been fired, but if they told you the truth and it wasn't what you imagine it to be then you're going to jump up in arms and whine cover up anyway. So what's the point in them disclosing anything that would only irritate the situation further? If they said they did it for Eidos then everyone feels great that they saw the truth and that they were right.. if they say it was because he was tired of GS and wanted to move onto something else you'll simply just complain they're lying.

So if the game sucks say it sucks.. it's no different then any other game, but saying it sucks "For Jeff." is purly moronic and you need to go back to kindergarden and grow up. Even if they did do it because of advertising pressure then they did what any other person would do. They wanted something that would be in their best interest money wise. To say you wouldn't do the same thing is grossly ignorant. It's the first rule of Economics. Noone or No coropration would intentionally do itself harm. So if that means bowing to Eidos or if their integrety ment more to them then money for ads then they would chose that. In the end of the day GS doesn't have any responsibility to it's subscribers. No different then any other company... It's only responsibility is to make money.

There we go.. finally got that out of my system.

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#34 xPaStorTroyx
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For one thought the game was great Im gonna play it again on morphine,I beat it on codeine but it has agood story and its bad that people dont like it but hey to each its own its not flashy like Bioshock and not a fps like halo but in areas were it sucks in it makes up in gameplay people are always trying to compare games with other games and say oh this isnt gears of war or this isnt haloand end up missinga good game, I also wanna saysome scenes like the tokyo club made me like it alot, and seeing how it is nex gen and all this call of duty and assians creed are the only games I really seen to utilize nex gen hardware by putting armies and swarms of enemys on the screen but hey if you dont like it dont play it.. their areworse games then this one.
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#35 angelfly
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So many eidos and gamespot apologist in this thread.
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#36 Disturbed_King
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It will probably at some point because a lot of people (including me) are really upset about Jeff getting fired, and therefore...a popular employee getting fire due to low review of game=players giving extremely low ratings to that game.

So put this way...if Kane & Lynch never existed, Jeff would've never been fired.

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#37 limpbizkit818
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Well atleast we know now that money has an influence on Gamespot's reviews, and therefore they can never be trusted again.

I hope Jeff goes to another Game website, maybe IGN or 1up.

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#38 Sigmond
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So many eidos and gamespot apologist in this thread.angelfly

It's better then the legion of Jefffanboy/girls out there who are running off of a self rightous fury that has no basis on logic and only is revolving around a rumor. He could have left on his own. Though you refuse to listen to that possibility. Yes it does look bad, but you only have circumstantial evidence. If it was for that review he made then why is the review still there? Why didn't they try and covertly change it to a different reviewer? Ask yourself these questions and try and find out for sure if they fired him for the reason you think it is before you and your fellow fans jump for blood.

So put this way...if Kane & Lynch never existed, Jeff would've never been fired.Disturbed_King

Ah but now that's speculation and requires that the rumor be true. If it is then you're right.. if it isn't then you're entirly wrong I'm afraid.

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#39 Sigmond
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Well atleast we know now that money has an influence on Gamespot's reviews, and therefore they can never be trusted again.

I hope Jeff goes to another Game website, maybe IGN or 1up.

limpbizkit818

Nope we don't know that, we only think we do. When there is proof and not simply circumstance to go on then we'll know.

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#40 kozzy1234
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Kane and Lynch is one of the worst games ive played this gen, the graphics look like PS1 graphics and the gameplay is terrible.

Jeff was beign nice giving it a 6

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#41 b4rtsimps0n
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Kane and Lynch is one of the worst games ive played this gen, the graphics look like PS1 graphics and the gameplay is terrible.

Jeff was beign nice giving it a 6

kozzy1234

I agree. Played it on my pc with maximum settings, still looked terrible. Tried to play the beginning but the gameplay was just so terrible I couldn't even get myself to play it for more than half an hour before I erased it from my harddrive.

It SHOULD be become the lowest user ranked game ever, it's the worst game I ever played.

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#42 angelfly
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Sigmond I'm not a Jeff fan and 95% of his reviews I disagreed with but the reason he was fired for is what I'm angry about. If he screwing around and not doing what h was supposed to be doing I wouldn't care about him being fired but to be fired because of pressure from publishers for a less than satisfactory review is just wrong. How do you think all the other GS employees are feeling right now. Do you this won't have an impact on them and their future reviews?

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#43 EnderSR388
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I never liked Jeff, so I don't really care about him. I'm more worried about publishers buying off review sites to give inflated scores. As for K&L, it wasn't IO Interactive that did this, it was most likely Eidos, so why punish the developer??
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#44 Soulreaver9
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I never liked Jeff, so I don't really care about him. I'm more worried about publishers buying off review sites to give inflated scores. As for K&L, it wasn't IO Interactive that did this, it was most likely Eidos, so why punish the developer??EnderSR388

exactly

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#45 master_spoon
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This whole thing really pi$$es me off. First of all to you that think it was OK that Jeff was fired because his review was BS are a bunch of idiots. How are we ever going to expect to get fair reviews of anything if advertisers can influence the review score? Now everything on this site is subject to bias and dishonesty. This gives complete ammo to all system fanboys, and did a huge disservice to the "prestigue" of this site. Don't be such SHEEPLE.

Kane and Lynch 0/10 for me, and I will not be purchasing any Eidos games or visiting Gamespot anymore (excluding my rant here, and voting on Kane and Lynch)

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#46 Red122
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Wow I beat he game and playe dthe co op many times and the game is trash its fun for a few the first few missions of campaign is good bu he rest are rushed and total garbage believe me I had high hopes for this game but as soon as I played threw the last missions I was like wow at least I had some achievements thats all this game is good for is achievements. Biggest gripe cant play as lynch screw Kane lynch is sweet and the split screen coop is like total retarded bu coming from eidos what can you expect heir like atari one step fom dying. And really why should I care about some slack reviewer getting fired what he do for me? from 1-10 I give Kane and lynch a 3.5
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#47 DarkRider23
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Yes... He got fired for doing his job. Law suit, anyone? There's no way he got fired for just doing his job. I kind of feel bad because he was one of my favorite reviewers.
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#48 Red122
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hah gotta wonder though how many reviewers would have gotten fired for giving halo 3 a real crap score hahaha money wasnt involved something else to it maybe he ae to many doughnuts or o many bags of chips huh who care shes gone life goes heres to jeff *whoever that is* *farts* we salute you noob
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#49 numbah2
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Viva la Jeff!
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#50 MarineVargas2
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thank you jeff. I was really excited when i saw the preview of kane and lynch and was looking foward to buying it. When i saw the video review i decided to rent it instead. All i have to say is THANK YOU. You saved me 55 bucks. This game can rot in hell. The most broken piece of crap next to two worlds.