You would NOT believe what EB just did to me

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#1 CaptainCrazy
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Just travelled about 150miles to get a xbox 360 (while also there on business) and I bought one at an EB store. Got it home and noticed a problem right away. The seal was re-taped. When I opened the box none of the bags were on the components and i saw finger prints on the chrome part of the hard drive. I thought maybe they opened it to put the free game in so I fired up the system and voila, some guy named Alexander's account loads up onto Live. EB COMMITTED BLATENT FRAUD AGAINST ME! How on earth can they sell me this used ***** system with a straight face after paying so much money for it?

I'll be contacting the head office, the local store and possibly the local newspaper and go public with this. I thought about calling the police about fraud but that might be a bit extreme. Has anything like this happened to any of you? I just cannot believe my luck. This is just unspeakable and I've lost faith and trust in customer service completely.

UPDATE 1:
I called the local store today and they claim the manager is not going to be there all day. This is the same employee that sold me the used xbox and she seems to be trying to completely blow this off as a minor error even after I told her how far I live away. I told her to call the manager and call me right back. So far no call back. She didn't offer me anything about a discount but I didn't bring it up yet.

UPDATE 2:
I just was in contact with the local store manager and he started giving me an excuse that the system was knowingly repackaged and sold as new because the previous owner was a kid who bought it with his 1st pay cheque and once his parents saw how much money he spent, made him return it. Ok so this is probably true but he's tryign to justify me paying full price for something that has been opened and used. The manager doesn't realize you're not supposed to sell something used for a new price, especially if you HIDE this from the customer. Anyway he said he has no authorization to issue discounts nor did he offer me one but I have to take this up with EB customer service and report the store. I'll let you know what happened.

PS: The manager said he would not even recommend I buy a 360 because there are too many hardware problems. SO I guess its also true about these guys dissing the systems. Doesn't make much sense when you're trying to move product.

UPDATE 3:
I'm back guys and I just want to thank you all for your support and I really hope this helps expose EB and their fraudulant activities. Here is an update on the situation.  

I contacted EB cust service center and they filed complaint with the wrong district manager (the DM from Alberta actually) so he called me back first and agreed that what happened was very wrong and shouldn't have happened and said he would tell my local DM to contact me and assured me he would work out a resolution.

 Well of course the local DM called when I was at work but left a message stating that they sell used systems and package them like new very often and that they haven't done anything wrong to me and refuse to help in the matter. Basically, they want me to shut up and keep a used system I paid full price for. I will be in contact with this DM personally tommorow and if I don't get results, I will go to the media relations of EB and tell them I will be doing a story about this in the newspaper and contacting the BBB as well as contact the police on grounds of fraud.   I know these images aren't very clear to see the packaging but I could not upload the full res image from my camera.

UPDATE 4:
Hello everyone, I've been reading most of your comments and I want to thank you for the support again but I'm not going to even waste my time with those of you claiming that I am all BS and making this up. If that's what you believe, then please leave the thread and go do something else.

I contacted EB customer service again today and they have escalated the issue to the next level above the district manager and assured me that they will work with me until the issue is resolved to my satisfaction. Tommorow I will drive the 60km to the nearest EB to exchange the used system for a sealed 100% new one since they've already got my money and I have no system to play until I exchange. They said this is fine and will contact me on Mon or Tues to discuss compensation for my troubles.

I see some of you defend EB but it seems you don't fully understand the reality of how EB works. They made excuses when I questioned them about this and never once apologized or offered any help other than telling me to drive myself to the nearest store to exchange. They take your money and that's all they care about. But to be fair, obviously there are some people in the company that do want to help me, but at the lower store level, they just don't care that they rip people off.

 I also want to let you know that part of the reason I'm goign through this dispute process is to help prevent this fraud from happening again or at least reduce it for other customers because I know this is just wrong. Even though they are willing to exchange the system, they will keep on selling used items for new unless people start escalating the issues to management high enough to make changes. I cannot stress enough how wrong this feels, it is not a trivial matter and I will NOT treat it as such. I'll update again as soon as I am contacted. In the mean time, I hope I can start enjoying some gaming with the 360 tommorow once I get this thing exchanged.

FINAL UPDATE:
I went to the nearest EB store today to exchange the used system for a new one and made them open it and test it out in the store. The district manager also spoke with me over the phone to discuss compensation right in front of many customers I might add. He offered 50% off the Oblivion game I had also bought with the system but I told him I think it should be free because that would be more acceptable but he would not go for it. He did however admit that it was his fault for this issue occuring and will discuss this with the other DM's to change EB's policy on reselling used systems as new. He also apologized for the incident and I was glad that someone finally did. He is also going to have a talk with the store manager who was dissing the 360. So I really do hope that this event has an impact on the company's policy (at least in Canada) so this does not happen as much in the future. Like I said, I'm still not 100% satisfied but I'm glad to finally get a system I can use for now.

Thanks for reading and be sure the next time you do business with EB to insist that whatever product you are buying is new and FACTORY SEALED. If not, simply refuse to buy such products and report the store to EB customer service which can be found on the contact us section of www.ebgames.com

Below are some pics showing evidence of a used X360 sold as new in a repackaged box. It might be hard to see the broken original seal and the new one over it but it's there.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/shawnfog/xboxfraud001.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/shawnfog/xboxfraud002.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/shawnfog/xboxfraud003.jpg

  

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#2 limpbizkit818
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Dam, 150 miles for that? I would raise hell ASAP.
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#3 the_offical_jim
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Wow! I'd be pissed. They may have not done it on purpose though...
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Wow dude, that is....You should go Marcus Fenix on their ass.

 

*Hands you chainsaw*

 

You'll need that.

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#6 PBJMAN
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That stinks. I'd be calling the store manager ASAP when they open tomorrow, if you haven't already. Make sure you know what will be acceptable to you before you call. Do you want a partial refund? Do you want a new 360? Are you willing to go back to swap? Will they ship you one in a box with return postage paid to send back the one you got? Once you know what your options are, you can press the store manager for results. If he does not resolve the issue, then ask for the DM's name and number. Good luck, and post here to keep us informed, this should be interesting!
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#7 chester706
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Me: Go whoop their ass!

You or TC: Ill need a weapon.

 

Lol.

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#9 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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i always look over an expensive purchase to make sure it's freshly sealed and there are no dents in the box. this should show you a lesson, but sorry just the same.
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#10 Crunchman
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Call the store up first, if they deny anything, blow everything in their faces.
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#11 apocolipz
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I would go cause some serious trouble.
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#12 VD_Demon-101
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They probably made fun of you when you left the shop
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#13 skyLine72
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The exact same thing(minus the Live account on there) happened to me at a GameStop. Luckily it's very close and my friend works there so I had no problem bringing it back right away. You should be able to bring to an EB Games closer to you if there is one.
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#14 viper3885
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That is unacceptable. I would call and ask to speak with the store manager in the morning. Though keep in mind that they most likely did not do this on purpose. Someone probably bought the system played it and decided that they didn't want it and then returned the system without telling them that it had been used, although the clerk should have checked the packaging. When you do call, I'd be polite and keep a cool head but let them know that you are in no way satisfied with what happened. You won't get to far if with them if you start screaming at them. If their anything like my local EB they'll try to resolve the problem for you asap.
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#15 raylewisnfl52
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why did you drive 150 miles dont you have like a local walmart or bestbuy closer to you?
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#16 ehdinello
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EBGames / GameStop sucks period. Never shop there unless you absolutaly have to. Even then, reconsider it.
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#17 RicanNerd189
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Just travelled about 150miles to get a xbox 360 although not just for this reason and I bought one at an EB store. Got it home and noticed a problem right away. The seal was re-taped. When I opened the box none of the bags were on the components and i saw finger prints on the chrome part of the hard drive. I thought maybe they opened it to put the free game in so I fired up the system and voila, some guy named Alexander's account loads up onto Live. EB COMMITTED BLATENT FRAUD AGAINST ME! How on earth can they sell me this used ***** system with a straight face after paying so much money for it?

I'll be contacting the head office, the local store and possibly the local newspaper and go public with this. I thought about calling the police about fraud but that might be a bit extreme. Has anything like this happened to any of you? I just cannot believe my luck. This is just unspeakable and I've lost faith and trust in customer service completely.

CaptainCrazy

If you are telling the truth (I've been lied to before, not saying you did) then I would contact the local news and tell them your story. If worse come to worse sue them, but that your last option!

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#18 chester706
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If they are anything like MS customer support on 1800-4MY-XBOX then good luck :lol:.
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#19 petrnorth18
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thats crazy man, hopefully it was just a mistake on their part
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#20 viper3885
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There's no need to contact the news or lawyers or any of that. God why do people jump to these conclusions so fast? Talk to the manager of the store first and try to resolve the issue, I'm sure they will do what it takes to resolve the issue. Only if they won't do jack for you is when you turn to other options. Even then I'd just go over the store managers head to the DM. You should let the store try to make good on their mistake before you get crazy with the situation.
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#21 II-FBIsniper-II
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You are telling me there is no place that sells electronics within 150 miles? But anyway, that sucks, I'd be pissed.
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#22 SPHYNXA
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You know what would make this a really, really big deal? You said that someone else's account is on there, and it's possible that they stored their credit card information on there so that they were able to pay for and download Live Arcade games and such. If, by any chance, that information is still on there... EB is going to have a mighty big problem on their hands.
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#23 CaptainCrazy
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It's too late tonight to call anyone. Already tried local store and head office but I will first thing in the morning. No i didn't travel all that distance just for the system. But I will not travel back there just to return it. Of course i will demand some compensation even if it was an accident but I don't see how the hell this can be an accident unless someone scammed EB themselves and had access to factory repackaging stickers of some kind because there is actually 2 extra....oh and I also found that the call of duty 3 game's seal is broken too. I am uploading pis here:
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#24 SPHYNXA
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That's insane, CaptainCrazy. Go into the Marketplace via 'Alexander's account and see if his credit card information was stored on the HDD. If that's the case (and obviously, don't mess around with it any) then you have a very big case on your hands. That's absolutely illegal for EB to do, never mind that it might be an "accident". Even if it was, if they didn't check for personal information such as that on the HDD... then they have a bery big problem on their hands.
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#25 Firebrand02
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Wow, you just made me lose all the faith I had in EB, not that I had that much to begin with....
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#26 littlestreakier
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wow man, i'm sorry, that really really sucks.  i would definately raise some hell till i got a new one.  that's not fair to u in any sort of way
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#27 etbny22
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why does the dashboard pic not look like every other dashboard, is that how it looks when you dont have xbox live?? meaning that it doesnt show rep next to your name, and it shows # of achievements and # of games.
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#28 slayer85
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how gay id raise hell man
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#29 FUBAR24
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curb stomp the managers face into the next generation
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why does the dashboard pic not look like every other dashboard, is that how it looks when you dont have xbox live?? meaning that it doesnt show rep next to your name, and it shows # of achievements and # of games.etbny22

i guess so, id on't have like and mine looks exactly like his 

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#31 SpYkMo
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WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!! why is everyone getting all upset over this, i look at the positive, you already have 6 achievements and 120 points!!! and you havent done anything, just change your name to alexander and allw ill be right!!!

no im just kidding. that is ridiculous and unexcusable. i'd be beyond p!ssed if i got home and saw it was open and resealed.

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#32 SPHYNXA
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WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!! why is everyone getting all upset over this, i look at the positive, you already have 6 achievements and 120 points!!! and you havent done anything, just change your name to alexander and allw ill be right!!!

>SpYkMo
:lol: For a few seconds that thought juggled around in my noggin' but I told myself that I had better not suggest such a thing.
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#33 ag1002
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what was the background pic on your 360?  like on the dashboard.  haven't seen that before.
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#34 Llama_123
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That background on the dashboard is what it looks like for XBL Silver users... there aren't any stars (rep) cause Silver users don't have access to online play.
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Just travelled about 150miles to get a xbox 360 although not just for this reason and I bought one at an EB store. Got it home and noticed a problem right away. The seal was re-taped. When I opened the box none of the bags were on the components and i saw finger prints on the chrome part of the hard drive. I thought maybe they opened it to put the free game in so I fired up the system and voila, some guy named Alexander's account loads up onto Live. EB COMMITTED BLATENT FRAUD AGAINST ME! How on earth can they sell me this used ***** system with a straight face after paying so much money for it?

I'll be contacting the head office, the local store and possibly the local newspaper and go public with this. I thought about calling the police about fraud but that might be a bit extreme. Has anything like this happened to any of you? I just cannot believe my luck. This is just unspeakable and I've lost faith and trust in customer service completely.

 I know these images aren't very clear to see the packaging but I could not upload the full res image from my camera.



  

CaptainCrazy
Call them immediately and be nice but assume they made a mistake. It may really have been, still I'd be pissed.
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#36 SPHYNXA
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That background on the dashboard is what it looks like for XBL Silver users... there aren't any stars (rep) cause Silver users don't have access to online play.Llama_123
That is indeed correct.
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#37 wreak
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it was probably the clerks intention not the stores. EB clerks have shafted me and a couple of my friends in the past, thats why i hardley ever buy stuff from EB anymore.
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thats sucks man
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#39 slidet22
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Listen - I'd be irate too. I really would. However, you at least have to think with something that obvious that human error can be a likely candidate to blame. Call them, let them know what happened and how far you traveled. At least give them the opportunity to make good on the mistake. I would argue that they should give you a gift certificate or something for your trouble. If they insist that nothing can be done, then I'd take it to the next level. However, we all make mistakes and should at least be given the chance to make it right.
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#40 kcpp2b
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DUDE!!!!!!!!!!

That's CRAZY

Personally I would threaten to take it public like you said and demand an Xbox360 Elite and a free game or....

Xbox360 premium, free two year Ebgames warranty and 1 year xboxlive for free....maybe with free game too.

This may sound like a lot but what they did was fraud....unless they sold you a used one and you were the only person that didn't notice that then...you're just cwazy! 

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Just travelled about 150miles to get a xbox 360 although not just for this reason and I bought one at an EB store. Got it home and noticed a problem right away. The seal was re-taped. When I opened the box none of the bags were on the components and i saw finger prints on the chrome part of the hard drive. I thought maybe they opened it to put the free game in so I fired up the system and voila, some guy named Alexander's account loads up onto Live. EB COMMITTED BLATENT FRAUD AGAINST ME! How on earth can they sell me this used ***** system with a straight face after paying so much money for it?

I'll be contacting the head office, the local store and possibly the local newspaper and go public with this. I thought about calling the police about fraud but that might be a bit extreme. Has anything like this happened to any of you? I just cannot believe my luck. This is just unspeakable and I've lost faith and trust in customer service completely.

 I know these images aren't very clear to see the packaging but I could not upload the full res image from my camera.



  

CaptainCrazy

well my friend i would have to say you just got Owned by EB

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#42 JaySin8706
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eb/gamestop never ceases to amaze me. call their customer assitance hotline and give the store, employees, and managers a bad review. i hear they can't stand when someone does that to them.
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#43 Jeff_Boldt
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man, I love how the 10 year olds love to jump in here and dole out advice like they're life experts "OMFG KILL DEM ALLLLLL!" Stores have employee's and managers, employee's are under-experianced younger guys who don't know exactly what they're doing, in some cases they're their for the sole purpose of picking up a pay-cheque and they couldn't care less about what's going on in there store. Call the store in the morning and talk to the manager, I'm sure he'll be more than happy to not only compensate you, but go well above and beyond what he's required to do in order to see to it that you're satisfied. Did the box explode and rip your hands off? no? Was there anthrax all over it? no? Was the box completely empty? no? Then relax, it's all completely fixable. And for the people in this topic telling him to be super pissed, grow up, seriously. I would add you all to my super-douche list, but there's just not room.
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#44 kcpp2b
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Listen - I'd be irate too. I really would. However, you at least have to think with something that obvious that human error can be a likely candidate to blame. Call them, let them know what happened and how far you traveled. At least give them the opportunity to make good on the mistake. I would argue that they should give you a gift certificate or something for your trouble. If they insist that nothing can be done, then I'd take it to the next level. However, we all make mistakes and should at least be given the chance to make it right.slidet22

I wouldn't personally, business are all about money and EBgames have been accused of this so many times by people but now it's real and happened to you. If they don't give you something like a new 360 and atleast two year free warranty ATLEAST I would go public with it.

Again I would ask for more and believe me dude you have the right to, ask for more see what you can get, they made a really bad mistake and it wouldn't be good news for them especially for all the people that wanna buy a 360 from EB or any other system too that they think is new 

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#45 Flaming_Ape
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That must suck really badly, I'd be even more pissed if I were you...and to ask you a question, did that 360 come with COD3 for free (I saw it in one of those pics)? Because at least you get a Hershey's kiss for that, after your sudden disaster.
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#46 Bigfoot_Slayer
Member since 2003 • 211 Posts

man, I love how the 10 year olds love to jump in here and dole out advice like they're life experts "OMFG KILL DEM ALLLLLL!"

Stores have employee's and managers, employee's are under-experianced younger guys who don't know exactly what they're doing, in some cases they're their for the sole purpose of picking up a pay-cheque and they couldn't care less about what's going on in there store. Call the store in the morning and talk to the manager, I'm sure he'll be more than happy to not only compensate you, but go well above and beyond what he's required to do in order to see to it that you're satisfied.

Did the box explode and rip your hands off? no? Was there anthrax all over it? no? Was the box completely empty? no? Then relax, it's all completely fixable.

And for the people in this topic telling him to be super pissed, grow up, seriously. I would add you all to my super-douche list, but there's just not room. Jeff_Boldt

 Yeah I completely agree... 

Just don't assume things... Call in the morning. talk to the manager... IF AND WHEN he doesn't do something, then you go further... But if he's happy to help you, compensate you, and help you through your troubles, then no pain. No use in being a jerk to them, if all the manager did was train his employees.

Remember, if it was anyones fault, it was probably the employees fault, not the manager. Why would the manager want to screw over his own business? Employees, like Jeff said, don't really care usually.  

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#47 IMuGGeDSaTaN
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File a lawsuite. Its against the law to sell a used system as if it was brand new. You could get alot of money for this.
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#48 IMuGGeDSaTaN
Member since 2007 • 485 Posts
On a more serious note the guy above is right. Just call the manager. But try to get something extra out of it. Like a game or something. But really if he doesent help you at all you might want to look into a lawsuite for real.
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#49 icecoldkilla78
Member since 2006 • 1756 Posts
[QUOTE="CaptainCrazy"]It's too late tonight to call anyone. Already tried local store and head office but I will first thing in the morning. No i didn't travel all that distance just for the system. But I will not travel back there just to return it. Of course i will demand some compensation even if it was an accident but I don't see how the hell this can be an accident unless someone scammed EB themselves and had access to factory repackaging stickers of some kind because there is actually 2 extra....oh and I also found that the call of duty 3 game's seal is broken too. I am uploading pis here:

why are there two books to the call of duty game?
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#50 Brutal_Elitegs
Member since 2004 • 16426 Posts
That background on the dashboard is what it looks like for XBL Silver users... there aren't any stars (rep) cause Silver users don't have access to online play.Llama_123
I am pretty sure I have that theme, infact I know I do because I used it. Forgot what it was called though.