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Kinect is a big problem for MS in general. Core gamers don't like it much at all, and they don't like the fact MS shifted focus to it in the latter years of 360. So yeah, the $500 price tag thanks to Kinect 2.0 is a big reason why PS4 has even been outselling XB1 in North America, where 360 consistently outsold PS3. It's so bad MS is selling XB1 "bundles" that really are just a discounted XB1 with TitanFall thrown in for free.

I think another problem is this whole "its a marathon, not a sprint" quote recently from a MS exec. Well, Sony proved to be the better marathon runner last gen. They wiped out a year head start and huge lead for 360 and ended up passing 360 before PS4 launched.

MS is making the same mistakes in the library as last gen too. They started off last gen throwing money around for timed exclusives. They got Mass Effect and Bioshock long before anyone knew they would be out on PS3. Now here is TitanFall, but its also coming out on 360 (2nd highest in pre-orders on Amazon right now). But we also now know that EA has no plans to keep TitanFall 2 on just MS platforms.

MS needs to acquire more first party studios and up the quality there. Halo, Forza, and Gears have in general run their course. They arent going to keep people anymore. Not with all the new IPs coming out from Sony, and the continued success of all these multiplatform games like COD and BF. We have Watchdogs and Destiny on the horizon too.

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If you are on Steam, I'm going to say Star Wars Empire at War: Forces of Corruption. That is of course if you like RTS games.

I'd say Star Wars Battlefront, but I don't think you can get online in that game anymore.

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If you include the TitanFall bundles they are basically handing out free copies of the game with, then no Infamous won't outsell TitanFall. But that's just it. They are throwing TitanFall at people for free if you buy a discounted XB1. Imagine if Sony was giving Infamous out for free with a new PS4 (and that there were any PS4s actually in stock).

MS is abusing TitanFall to artificially boost their install base on XB1.

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Dont forget, most of the UK sales bumps recently have been due to not just a price cut, but the fact the TitanFall bundle has been at that same reduced price. In essence, they have been handing out TitanFall for free.

MS is way behind right now, and is doing everything they can to keep Sony in sight before TitanFall releases on 360. TitanFall on 360 is the second most pre-ordered game on Amazon right now. That's a lot of people who aren't willing to spend $450-500 on a console for TitanFall.

Meanwhile, Sony hasn't been able to keep units on the shelf or the gap would be larger. That 70% bump for Sony is just because they actually got some stock in. They think it will be summer before they start to catch up.

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@clyde46 said:

Did Infamous SS get Mc Shea'd?

Nope, I honestly don't know why there is so much fighting here. It was a boring score.

Yes it did, just not as badly as we are used to. I think that's why a lot of people went ahead and said AA. Most just couldnt believe GS was going to give this a AAA score even if it appeared to deserve it.

About half the critics on Metacritic so far scored the game 8.5 or better, but there's a good number that scored 8.0 right with GS.

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Does it even matter what the sales numbers are for TitanFall? Its not an XB1 exclusive. It never has been. I can get it for my PC instead of spending $500 on an XB1. And now we have news that EA owns the IP rights has plans to take TitanFall 2 to Playstation.

You can't play Infamous Second Son without picking up a PS4. Sony owns the IP. That's what exclusive means. Xbots would have a lot less useless arguments if they realized that fact.

It never was exclusive. It just isn't on Playstation. I mean if you're going to come after the "xbots" then you might as well come after the cows for being equally foolish to attack/damage control a multiplat

What damage control? It's not an exclusive, but you have all these Xbots running around thumping their chest about it. I went to look at the IGN review of Infamous, and the xbots are flooding the comments cheering the fact that TitanFall had a slightly better score. So you gonna blame PS4 owners for firing back? Then the news breaks on the leak that TitanFall 2 is not likely to be a MS exclusive LOL.

This isn't just a TitanFall thing, it happened all last gen with every 360 "exclusive" that also happened to be out on PC like Alan Wake and even Bioshock and Mass Effect when they first released.

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Does it even matter what the sales numbers are for TitanFall? Its not an XB1 exclusive. It never has been. I can get it for my PC instead of spending $500 on an XB1. And now we have news that EA owns the IP rights has plans to take TitanFall 2 to Playstation.

You can't play Infamous Second Son without picking up a PS4. Sony owns the IP. That's what exclusive means. Xbots would have a lot less useless arguments if they realized that fact.

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HAHA I called it! This game is going to be a blast to play, but I knew Gamespot wasn't going to give it AAA. To McShea's credit, he gave Second Son a higher score than he did Infamous 2. I still don't get what he's looking for with the morality issues. This isn't Heavy Rain. It's Infamous...it's a superhero game...it's first and foremost about cruising around an open world with an array of outstanding powers. To that end the Infamous series has delivered again and again.

As for all the TitanFart comments, I can play that too. I don't even own an XB1 either. I can get it for my PC if I want it. So really, who cares what TitanFall is doing vs Infamous? Stop trying to play like its an XB1 exclusive even though MS wants everyone to believe that. Watch..in two weeks..."TitanFall 360 version cancelled due to technical issues."

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If I had to vote how I think this game will objectively be, I think it will be a AAA blast to play. Everything I have seen suggests that.

As for what it will actually get on Gamespot? I vote AA. They gave Infamous 2 a 7.5 which was one of the lower scores out of 90 critics, and that was a great game. So no, I don't see AAA on GS for Second Son. My gut feeling says 8.0-8.5 range.

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So I guess its another win for XB1 lol. You can't convince me that MS doesn't have a hand in the 360 "delays". They want everyone thinking they have to have an XB1 to play TitanFall for as long as possible.