@HowlPendragon @CharlesBurns good point. Although everyone I know who bought a windows phone had no life to start with, so that was an easy win for MS

question for the room.....

How will microsoft stop channel hijacking? It knows the voices of the family, you are annoyed with person watching dancing with the farts, so you walk past and shout xbox fat people falling over on youtube now

not impressed. They have talked about TV on screen schedulers like they just invented it; its been on our screens for decades. Also, this presentation was overwhelmingly for domestic market. I live in the second biggest xbox market, and everything from the football with crash helmets to defending the USA in new COD, was very nice if you are in america, but I am not. I feel disconnected from it.

so what have we got so far, lets sum up........

Mclaren have their batmobile in a game, um, COD Battlewhatever 5 is coming, and a whooshy lamp thingie controlled by Kinect. That is controlled by kinect, not powered by it ladies, projectors are extra,

@dlCHIEF58 @Fo_Fai

1; do try and learn to differentiate between mathematics and corporate predictions

2; even on your terms which are wrong, you are wrong...

"Less than 15% of the screen is available for things you use regularly; the rest is reserved for advertising."

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/380281/xbox-360-whats-wrong-with-the-metro-dashboard/

@Spartan_418 the red ring of death was inevitable. Microsoft are a software company. What they knew about making consumer electronics in 1999 (pre-xbox) you could write on a postage stamp. They have spent a decade flying blind and making it up as they go along.

@The_Stifmeister its that perfect combination of Bambi eyes and diseased man eating shark smile, isn't it?

@Fo_Fai @6orange6 Did you see the blurry PS4 box reveal? its on the net now

@Fo_Fai @6orange6 hahaha yes, Kind of hoping they read Gamespot prior to reveal tomorrow

Let's list those "potential pitfalls";

Day 1 DLC

Season passes

Blocking used games

Always online

Forgetting people buy a games console to play games

Ramming ads down people's throats

Pre ordering systems with no consumer benefit

Microtransactions for full price games

Paying to play online

Camera systems that are always looking at the console owner

User interface that has gaming taking up 15% of screen space leaving 85% for ads