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J-Live – Here
[Verse 1 – J-Live]
PEACE!
Still ain’t the word (?) to play(?)
Still the first word heard when you play your CD by J
Still it’s what you can’t be if you live as me
By the wait (???) third eye moving rapidly
Rapping, rougher than wrapping, smoother than Anita Baker rapture
Well-rounded emcee
Actor not, but still it’s man the action stop (totally wrong; wtf is he saying?), wisdom by the barrel in the lock and key
Capture words, attack your nerves, and make ‘em slave to the rhythm
If you listen you be settin’ ‘em free
Some say you’re the hay (does he speak English??), you’re the god I be
If it’s just I see the e-qual-it-y,
Over quantity,
If it’s no fool’s gold, not a prob to me
It’s much more than a job to me
If it was I’d be more than a temp, you see
Dedicated by the sin represent the G (????)
O.D. on the dope beat, E-A-T
So live and J-Live on the MPC
F.Y.I. this be album three
T.P. Triple Threat never one MD
Where the broke dudes dee jay and emcee?
True seeker, where the place to be!
Truth seeker, save a space for me!
Where the part known as the best y’all here
Matter fact, turn it up so y’all all hear
Been on the job since 1995 and,
Changed the game since the moment I arrived, and
Set back, some pitfalls, I survived and
We leave the diamond in the rough so jaded
Green with envy as the next man made it
But I remain unfazed, unfaded
Keeping my hands on the microphone
Setting the tone like a blade to a whetstone
Before bills get paid, skills get honed
You can’t get that, might as well get gone
[Yeah!]
Cause right here be the place where,
Foundations and careers get placed where
And short-term ambitions are replaced there
Cause man listen, while you dissin’,
We go from transition, to food dishin’,
It be the same old mission with a new vision
And I see clear (CLEAR!)
To a place where knowledge of self
Is promoted by the records being pushed by the people with wealth
And the bass-ackwards, jump-fool rappers, ain’t the only ones recognized up on the shelf
And the people on the club got a chance to dance to something that maintain self-respect
Cause the people in the booth with the ears on the youth really care about the music you hear (HEAR!)
(Mumbling I can’t decipher) J-Live start they here (????)
Bringing up to radio (mumbling ???)
And the dopest emcees get played here
Matter fact, turn it up all the way here
Get a little bit of this, underground, underrated when exaggerated
Appreciated, anticipated even though it’s still underestimated
Get up under the influence of the most fluent (???) in life
No men alive graduated
In this class, overseen, (???) celebrated (dude mumbles too much)
Get up, under the under current
Under current events, in one nation under currency
I’ll serve ya mental death sentence concurrently
Get some of this potion, the most potent, important, imported
From a place where the taste make you swim (???) (YEAH!)
Get your good foot up on the good ship, craftsmanship, to set sail round trip
From the mind to the lip to the ear to the mind, (HERE!)
Never mind the blind leading the dumb til the only ones left are deaf and doped up
To the deaf and dumb give their hopes up, not (HERE!)
You want a place (????)
A worst part with a land so desolate
And the pessimists stuck on stressin’ it
And the outsiders that make a mess of it
It’s the Hear After, the next Testament
I know the mic sound right, f*** testin’ it
I just get on the beat and start blessin’ it
That’s the intro, enjoy the rest of it
(HERE!)
J-Live – Aaw Yeah
[Talking]
Welcome to The Hear After
Glad y’all could make it, thanks for coming through, youknawimsayin
Find yourself a seat, get comfortable
I see some familiar faces in the crowd
Glad y’all could come back
But yo
[Verse 1 – J-Live]
For those of y’all that it’s your first time here, welcome to the trilogy
I greet you all with confident humility
Please allow me to present this soliloquy
As an exhibition of my said ability
I’m more than a man-sayer of rhymes,
I’m a conveyer of fine lines and a slayer of swine minds
Check the annals of hip-hop, for the illest s*** ever dropped
And you bound to find some of mine
For those of y’all that don’t know, to know me is to love me
You might of heard from me, before you heard of me
Those down from Day One and now showing their age
Call me the oldest rookie, the rap Satchel Paige
I’m still pitchin’ the heat, exposing major league heavy hitters with a swift swing and a miss
Quick to pitch some chin music inside to protect my home plate, cause nobody f***in’ with this
[Chorus]
We got a really great show for y’all tonight
Oddissee is in the house and the bass sounds tight, yeah
Stay tuned from all live right here
Y’all hear me clear? Aaw yeah!
Yeah, we got a really great show for you tonight
Special guest Flow Fader on the cuts, that’s right!
Stay tuned from all live right here
Y’all hear me clear? Aaw yeah!
[Verse 2 – J-Live]
Yo,
I’m ever influenced by the countless greats
Learning from both their successes and their mistakes
As well as those on my own
If opportunities wherever Kurtis Blown
Well, these are the breaks, but
Ask yourself if you never had the pleasure
How all these other music lovers came to find this buried treasure
Perhaps the surface dwellers just wasn’t prepared for the depths of my sound,
That’s why we call it underground
But I propose these flows to be some of the illest hip-hop has ever brought cha,
So how you ever thought ta,
Pigeon hole it thinking that could hold it,
We can’t call it underground, it’s more like underwater
So you out of order,
And if I had a quarter,
For every so-called journalist with a tape recorder
Claimin’ my sound is old school and it takes them back
I’d be the richest mother ****er in the laundromat
[Chorus]
We got a real special Triple Threat show
Odissee is on the heat, J-Live is on the flow, yeah
Low Budget’s in the house right there,
Y’all hear me clear? Aaw yeah!
We got a really great show for y’all tonight,
Special guest Flow Fader on the cuts, that’s right
Stay tuned from all live right here,
Y’all hear me clear? Aaw yeah!
[Scratching by Oddissee on the way out]
I'm just wondering if that's the same Oddisee with the Justus League. I know that Oddissee produces, and he raps too (and he's pretty good at both), but for all I know there are five Oddissee's. I'm also wondering if that's a Talib Kweli reference in Here...
thats true . lamar odom works best on solo isolations but through the first 5 games even all the kobe haters were saying kobe is making his teammates better and this is the way he should play (on realgm and other sports forums) which he was but his teammates were also playing out of this world and were bound to come back to earth .Lakersman2000
And I was sitting here the whole time wondering if they were watching the games. People were acting like he was playing great in this series or something -- he was way better in the regular season (which is one of the most overrated seasons in NBA history, but I digress). It's just that Phil Jackon had a game plan -- a brilliant one -- and that involved Odom and Kwame (and sometimes Walton, too) in the post. That does multiple things: It slows the game down, it gives Kwame much-needed confidence, and if you try to double Odom or Walton they will burn you with the pass. You can look back to the earlier games in the series, when they would double Odom near the basket and he would always find the cutting man to the basket and the Lakers would usually end with an And 1.
Kobe's just playing the triangle, without jumping out of it to shoot more. People were clapping because the Lakers were winning, but if they were losing he'd be getting roasted (well, probably not since he's the media's pet, but he'd still get a little criticism). Like I said, it's not like the offense is performing better -- that's not even the point. It's just that slowing the pace helps their defense, and makes the Suns play more in a half court set.
Mike D'Antoni, much to his credit (he really is a superb coach), has countered by abusing mismatches of his own. Nash and whoever is on Kwame is getting pick-n-rolled virtually every time down, and after that it's an easy bucket -- Nash can get any shot he wants off Kwame, or they can put it down low to Diaw, and he'll kill Parker on the post up. Phil Jackon has to counter that, and he's yet to, and if he doesn't do it today, Mike D'Antoni will have successfully outcoached Phil. Diaw is probably the biggest match-up problem for the Lakers -- he's really like the Suns' own Lamar Odom. He's a wicked passer, he's quick enough to drive by most larger players, and he'll abuse anyone smaller than him in the post. He's also automatic on the jumper if you go under on the pick-n-roll. He's shot over 50% in all the games but one, and he's upped his scoring by four and a half points over the regular season.
I kind of veered off from the topic a bit, but anyway, it's really stretching the limits of credibility to give Kobe credit for the great outside shooting of most of the role players -- Luke Walton is shooting 4% better in the postseason than his regular season; Devean George is shooting over 47% from three compared to just 31% in the regular season; Lamar Odom has found some aggressiveness and is averaging a ridiculous KG-like 20/12/5; Kwame has made 14 of his last 15 shots, and is shooting almost 6% better in the postseason than his season mark; Vujacic is approaching 60% from beyond the arc in this series; Brian Cook is shooting 50% from three as well. Small sample sizes abound.
sit here and tell me kobe has alot to work with .odom is dope but no one can knock down a shot consistently , smush is horrible ditto for sasha , brian cook other than spot up threes is worthless as a pf , kwame hasnt really had his head in the game since his sexual assault allegations and went back to the same guy who couldnt catch a pass and his rebounding has been horrible . devean george has been hitting a few shots but other than that hes been useless. turiaf , mckie , jim jackson . lol .
Kobe has as much to work with as many other superstars who are in his position or have been in his position. Remember Tracy McGrady in Orlando? It was fun and games to bash him then -- and I was the leading one in line -- but you could argue he did better there than Kobe has done. Paul Pierce has the most inexperienced group of guys to work with, but before this year he was consistent in getting his teams to the playoffs. Vinsanity had no one in Toronto; dude, in the 2000-01 year, the second leading scorer behind Carter was Antonio Davis at 13.7 ppg. His roster consisted of Davis, Alvin Williams, Charles Oakley, Morris Peterson, Corliss Williamson, and Keon Clark. The fact that he led a bunch of retreads -- even back then most of that group sucked or was nothing a superstar should have to work with -- deep into the playoffs is an amazing thing in hindsight.
Remember last year, before Phil came to help rectify the team? Kobe Bryant literally could not play along with Lamar Odom; like Odom said repeatedly, he would often stand around and watch Kobe. What the hell is that? 2004-05 was a disaster, one that's not easily forgotten; the team drastically underachieved. This year they essentially performed as expected to, though if the Lakers win this series you'll have a case, even though these Suns aren't the same regular-season Suns.
Odom is a multi-talented No. 2 option who can be one of the league's best in scoring, rebounding, and passing -- it's hard to ask for much more. His head always in the game, he's one-dimensional offensively (why doesn't anyone just ONLY play his left hand?), but the alleged best player in the game makes that work -- instead, it took Phil Jackon to make it work. Luke Walton is a great secondary player perfectly suited for the triangle, especially now that he's become more aggressive. Smush Parker has had a great year for a player of his stature; remember, dude's essentially a rookie. Brian Cook is a great PF to run the pick-n-roll with, and provides instant scoring; yes, his game is limited, but there's always a place for any big man who can hit the open shot as well as he can. I'll credit Kobe for making Brian Cook as useful as he is, because he's usually the man doing the pick-n-roll with him. Kwame, as I maintained all season long, has improved significantly, and next year he's going to be somebody.
Kobe doesn't have a ton to work with, but the fact that, assuming a loss today, the Lakers have either underachieved or met expectations with the player who's supposed to be the best in the league doesn't really bode well for Kobe.
open shots son . nobody can make ppl hit their shots ,however you can give them opportunitys to score . nash has the most turnovers in the nba so dont give me that stat . dry stats arent everything . nobodys perfect . kobe is still that ninja , and aside from a few players hes still playing with a bunch of scrubs. Lakersman2000
Except they're getting their open shots through the natural motion of the triangle or through the post-ups with Kwame and Odom... The Suns haven't doubled Kobe a lot and Kobe hasn't been aggressive enough to warrant it most times, so it's not like Kobe is directly leading to these baskets, otherwise he'd have more than 5.8 assists.
Um, Nash shot more times per game, shot a better percent from the field, shot better from three, shot better from the line, rebounded the ball more, had no Amare Stoudemire, and still had 10.5 assists. If the downside is a .4 increase in turnovers to 3.5, I'll take that no problem. Nash creates more than Kobe, which is why he had more turnovers. 3.00 A/T for Nash compared to 1.45 A/T for Kobe during the season -- Nash more than doubled Kobe's. :|
The real reason the Lakers have been winning is defense. Their offense is actually down from the season, but their defense has shot up. John Hollinger had a great column on it, and it dates back to the tail end of the season as well. It's incorrect to laud Kobe for this series, especially when Odom has been the second best (he hasn't played as well since I said he was the best in the series, while Nash has played out of his mind) player in the series.
and as usual your going to be wrong . kobe is the true mvp and the best basketball player in the world .hes making everyone better , this team of scrubs. trusting his teammates , having patience and stepping up when he has to. aint nobody even close to kobe when hes playing like this . HOLLA AT CHA BOY!
So why'd it go 7?
Kobe's been making everyone better, right? By passing the ball, I'm assuming. It doesn't make sense, though -- why is he averaging 5.83 assists, yet a whopping 5.0 turnovers as well? He was great in Game 6 when it didn't matter, and his seven turnovers hurt the Lakers a lot. The thing about Kobe: When he scores, he stagnates the offense. Wade, LeBron, and every other star get theirs in the flow of the game. In Game 6, from the 3rd quarter on, Kobe would get the ball early in the clock, stand there, and shoot. If he does that, the others don't get rhythm. Trying to get his teammates involved is great, but he doesn't make good enough decisions to do it -- you can see he's turning the ball over just trying.
Please tell me how Kobe's led Devean George to be lights out from three, as well as Sasha Vujacic. Odom's points have mostly been created by himself as he goes left non-stop -- that's Kobe too? I'll give you Kwame, but that's it. Lakers homers have a win-win situation with Kobe: If his teammates are great, Kobe did it. If they suck, it's because they themselves suck. If Kobe shoots 50 shots, he HAD to do it. If he doesn't, he's getting them involved. Please.
Soul Position- Things Go Better With RJ and AL
Orlando_Magic
One of the best album covers ever.
[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]*****[QUOTE="EasyStreet"]
Tool 10,000 Days
Lakersman2000
How is that album? I only have 2 songs from it so far...
tool :|Tool rapes. :|
Anyway, I'm trying to give some albums I haven't listened to in a while some play. Old school Mr. Lif, Gravediggaz, Mission > you.
3-1 Laker's lead.[QUOTE="HighPowered94"][QUOTE="The-Bulldozer"]What's the score now between Suns and Lakers? 1 - 1?The-Bulldozer
I think Suns don't have much of hope anymore.
I don't think you've seen any of this series, then. Look at it this way: It's taken perfect series' from Sasha Vujacic (WHO? God I hate Vujacic), Lamar Odom (by far the best player in this series), Luke Walton, and Kwame Brown. Shawn Marion has not played like Marion at all (a lot of credit goes to Odom for that; they're attacking his weakness, which is post defense), and I know without looking the Suns have shot some garbage from three-point range. Yet the Suns have essentially kicked themselves in the foot in losing every single one of these games (with some help from the refs). I fully expect this to go 7.
Why do you do stuff the hard way??? Limewire>Soulseek.
__Your-Master__
Limewire blows hardcore.
Murray's Revenge is good, but it has some of the same problems as 3:16: Too short, and since it's so short, it can't have any filler, but it does. Murray's Revenge is like 5 dope ass songs, and the other 5 range from solid to must-skip. 9th's production on it owns, though. Joe Scudda and Big Pooh own.
Louis Logic's Sin-A-Matic never gets old.
Wait until the room loads, of course. Just type in the artist name and it should work. Typing in the album name blows, so I just go with the artist name and see what I can get. Also, if it's hyphenated, most people don't name it as that. It should work.
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