[QUOTE="A_Falcies_Fancy"][QUOTE="hydralisk86"] Wrong. The crucifixion did happen. We have historical documents saying it did.hydralisk86

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[QUOTE="A_Falcies_Fancy"] im looking it up again just so i don't give you wrong information, but if i'm not mistaken, the historian youre talking about, his name evades me, was known for being like, The National Enquirer of Roman times. but, even if thats untrue, Jesus wouldn't of been newsworthy at the time he was crucified. so the only reason that historian documented Jesus, which was probably only a sentence or two, was probably because he had gained notoriety after his death because Christians were considered a cult in Rome up until about 200-300 CE.gaming25

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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="A_Falcies_Fancy"] actually, this is false. there is no inscrutible evidence for the crucifixion. there are a few extrabiblical sources that reference Jesus but there all dated from at least 50 years after Jesus died and there not exactly what I'd call trustworthy.A_Falcies_Fancy

[QUOTE="A_Falcies_Fancy"][QUOTE="hydralisk86"] Wrong. The crucifixion did happen. We have historical documents saying it did.gaming25

[QUOTE="A_Falcies_Fancy"]i don't think Christianity says anything about it. The whole crux of Christiandom is that you, the believer, are in spirtual debt to Jesus because he shed his blood for you. Without the crucifixion, there is no debt, so there would be really no reason to accept it. But honestly, the crucifixion most likely DIDN'T happen anyway, so Christianity would be just as it is now.hydralisk86

[QUOTE="A_Falcies_Fancy"]oh, rly? what about "the debt of sin" or to quote Lord I Lift Your Name On High,"My debt tooooo pay...". A debt by any other name is still a debt. Especially when there's consequences if you don't pay it back, i.e. eternal pain and suffering in the form of hell. Also, your second point is why Christianity is a little crazy in the first place. So, God sent himself, in another body, to die or not to die on a cross so that he could change a rule that he made himself. Its gibberish, in my opinion, or at the very least, your God is somewhat inefficient. (p.s. im not bashing here, just offering constructive criticism, i respect your religion and all that wot."Xx_Hopeless_xX

Uhm actually...you don't go to hell for "not repaying a debt"..you go for completely disrespecting God in many ways...and not feeling sorry for what you've done..

I WISH. all she cares about is the mall and clothes . bleh ! :(mm551144