@halo-freak I have to say, I DO like MS' controller. Hate their trashbox though.

@BadMrSnake If you paid attention, the reason it stopped was because the TV connection was bad. It had nothing to do with the games. and REALLY? You are saying that $400 is too much when MS has theirs at $500?

You must be an ambulance chaser then.

@The_Beanster Another gamer with a brain. I'm glad people are realizing the shit that they are forcefeeding us. It needs to stop and the only way it will, will be if their profits drop a considerable amount.

@JohnMark320

I agree with most of this, but just want to point out:

1) I am pretty sure there is no Mandatory game installation on the PS3, and there won't be on the PS4. Updates are another thing.

2) You can add a theme to change the generic wavy things, i'm sure.

3) we all wish this would happen. :(

4) PSNP is not required, except for multiplayer games. But I agree, they could use a new UI and should work on that.

@BLAQBUCK They tried to make it like the "all in ONE" box, but seem to have forgotten that you need to connect the Kinect to it, you also need to hook your DVR up to it for the cable, you also need to hook up your external hard drive, and probably your controller when it runs low on batteries.

Completely off topic, how long does it take for my friggen avatar to actually update?

@GIXX3R No required game installation either!

@Ahmi20 Meaning what? They were blunt and upfront about everything. They are just saying that they may do something like a bundle or subscription payment plan like MS.