[QUOTE="Aero5555"]Which is why I took the time to exclude Zionism from Judaism and specifically state that I respect Judaism as a faith. Not to mention my post about the ultra orthodox jews. pie-junior

This is what any civil Muslim does. We even marry Jews or are allowed to. You know me from the Saudi thread(s). Stop spouting nonsense and making me look racist.

You don't believe Jews have the same rights as other people. But you are not anti-semitic cause you "respect" some religion? themajormayor

.... Wut?

Who said anything about rights? Is what Israel doing considered right or even humane? No. Do I believe all Jews are evil? No. Are they human and have the right to practice their religion? Yes. Where's the anti-semitism? Or is Israel's right to exist part of their faith now too?

Don't answer that. My point is you're bending my words.

Yes you are lolthemajormayor

Which is why I took the time to exclude Zionism from Judaism and specifically state that I respect Judaism as a faith. Not to mention my post about the ultra orthodox jews. Makes sense :roll:

I hate Israel as a state. Deal with it.

Just what we needed. another saudi to cavort with grayfox&fize et al.pie-junior

The majority of the world are waking up to the fact that Israel is a criminally murderous state. If Palestine kill one person they slaughter triple the count in response. Get your facts straight. I'm not a Jew hater.

And Dark, I read all your posts very well. You talk like the Israeli government. I'm done with that discussion.

yes , its a random video , he is ashamed of Israel , and us Jews are ashamed of him , whats your point? you say the "excuse is exhausted, but then give me a video of a guy who uses the holocaust as an excuse to justify what he says? clever. but of course you want to use him as a shield for your views (using the fact that he was born a Jew to someone give you a kosher approval), when really it means very little, you can find alot of people who say alot of thing, so far, you are indeed hiding behind the views of someone else, mostly because you yourself do not know very much. .Darkman2007

I'm sorry, but you're full of shi* if you keep insisting I'm hiding behind someone's views. WTF are you on? Seriously? No wonder Israel supporters get so much hate. Man, this is so pathetic I'm laughing my ass off here. Oh my God. So the holocaust gives them the right to slaughter all those Palestinians for all these years?

I'm done. Seriously, I'm done. Fvck me. LMFAO!

Sorry, I meant I never implied I know about your own people more than you do.

And WTF are you talking about? Share my views? I've been speaking my mind all this time. I'm a Muslim, so it doesn't take a genius to know what my general view on Israel and its Zionist interpretatoon is. Add to it my shared view that their holocaust excuse is exhausted and not valid anymore. Considering what the government's done to the Palestian public since its establishment. What a fvcking joke. And no, it's not a "random" video. The man speaks truth and is ashamed of what Israel has done to his reputation and the reputation of his religion and its followers.

Please stop asking me to explain myself further. I'm done. If you didn't butt in and state the fact that Jews want the Arabs dead this would've never dragged.

and telling me I somehow don't know about Jews or Zionism is hilarious, Imagine I told you "hey Aero , I know youre a Muslim , and an Arab, but i really know much more about Islam and Arabs than you, even if Ive never read the Koran , and my knowledge of Arabic amounts to nothing" Darkman2007

Um, I never implied that you know more than me? :|

But yeah, I still believe you either only see the positive and deny the rest when you identify yourself as Zionist, or you're just simply not bringing it up. Maybe we're talking about two different things altogether? Whatever.

as for you sharing views with Norman Finkelstien , what is that supposed to tell me?Darkman2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivz06LZSWjY

I'm done here.

Look, Dark. Chill the fvck out first and foremost. OK?

Maybe I worded my view of Zionism wrong. But my point is that the Israeli government, who openly act selfish and bloodlust against Palestine, isn't the public nor is it representative of Judaism.

I'll make this simple. I'm Norman Finkelstein in terms of my views of Israel and its supporters.

And f*** this thread.

My post was not to bash any faith, including Judaism, nor was it to offend. And no, SNIPER, I'm not referring to Illuminati. Get outta this discussion. PLEASE.

Dark, sorry if I hit a nerve. But maybe you identify as a Zionist in a positive light while being oblivious to its true nature. Or maybe you're fooling yourself and others here. At the end of the day, I respect you and your religion. But facts are facts. Keep calling me a lying idiot if you wish. You're still a decent person to me. And I ain't changing my mind. (Yes, the media is controlled by Zionists, deal with the hate).

By the by, I was trying to make Jews and a significant number of Israelis look better. And you ruined it. Sorry.

lol. Id suggest you don't speak for what Zionism or Judaism is. and that "sect of Jews" wants the Arabs dead, wether you like it or not.Darkman2007

Zionism is purely a political movement inspired by Judaism. That much is true. Hollywood isn't ruled by Jews, but Zionists.

And I know they want us dead. That was not the point of my post. But thanks for driving the unintentional point across either way.