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#1 AlistarHP
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[QUOTE="MuayThaiFTW"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]So why does the Xbox 360 crush the PS3 in software sales AND have more higher rated games?KC_Hokie
Lol when games like Perfect Dark Zero, Crackdown, and Halo ODST are considered its "high scoring" games then you know its b.s.

You could make that same argument about the Little Big Planet games, the first Ratchet and Clank game, Flower, the Resistance games, etc. etc.

Wait what? Are you slow? Your comparing award winning critically acclaimed, genre envelope pushing games like LBP with PDZ and ODST? Are you feeling ok?
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#2 AlistarHP
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So why does the Xbox 360 crush the PS3 in software sales AND have more higher rated games?KC_Hokie
I don't know about sales, I don't listen to Justin Bieber, but the PS3 has WAY more high scoring games, and higher scoring games, and more variety in high scoring games. Check Metacritic that's a fact.
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#3 AlistarHP
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^Uncharted 3 craps all over gears, reviews a lot of the time are just hype, rewards at the end of the year, after the honeymoon period is over will tell you which is the better game. And Uncharted will destroy Gears in all sorts of awards.
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#4 AlistarHP
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]one question did you understand the void's many endings? I for the life of me could not.

When playing the void I felt like I was watching a painting and the message it was trying to convey was way beyond me :P

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I honestly haven't finished it yet - I was playing it unpatched and raw, so stopping the brothers from ruining my harvest was nigh impossible, it all got a bit frustrating. I am curious to find out how it ends though, or finish it - there was so much there that was well, really different and quite interesting. A few things stuck out in meaning, but I could imagine that it might get a bit eastern european artsy.
Bastion dudes, Bastion even though it isn't story heavy, it's really emotional. Bastion was amazing. AlistarHP
Haven't finished it yet, but going by what I've played and reputation I'd say that's a great example.

Don't forget to finish it, it's one of the veyr few games I truly recognize as art, that ending, was just... Won't speak anymore of it so I don't spoil it. But even then, it's a different beast to MGS, it's like not even comparable.
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#5 AlistarHP
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="AlistarHP"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]What games would you like to play? There's a good deal of them that will scratch your noggin in a variety of ways. Honestly MGS3 is a good one (by no means the most brain tickling), but it deals with its themes really well, even in its camp glory; particularly its central theme 'what makes a true patriot'. Want a game that delves into philosophy and concepts you might be interested in (by all means I highly recommend checking it out if you do) - Planescape Torment. Deals with themes like freedom and free will extensively, and offers and huge breadth of choice. However it's not high flying action, and it is wordy.

When I claimed MGS has one of the best and deepest stories in gaming I meant the series as a whole, not MGS2 specifically, I've played and loved all MGS games. And if your going to be honest with yourself you'll admit how hard it is to come up with games that compete, one of the few I ever hear is Planescape Torment, a 10+ year old game that relies heavily on text(if not completely) to tell it's story. I'd say that does nothing to take away the merit MGS as a series deserves. And as I said in the OP, it's a lot more impressive coming from an action'esque game then it is from an RPG.

The series at a whole doesn't, at all. It's messy, there's a huge amount of stupid, it's convoluted, and there's so much unnecessary stuff detracting from every theme that is introduced and not explored at all. I've played through all the MGS games; and a good deal of the first and second Metal Gear, and there's a wealth of games far more intellectual, well told, better written and outright intelligent then all the MGS games cobbled together and thrown about to prove a silly point. You're blowing MGS out of proportion, and a big reason is due to a lack of exposure and your own admiration for the series. Planescape is a simple go-to answer, because it stands out - and it's testament to how well it has held up, as games like MGS continued to get more technically complex, but not tell nearly as well told tales. You also make it sound like text is a bad thing. It isn't, if its a barrier well, you've gone ahead and decided to put a limiter on yourself in terms of exposure to games. As I said expose yourself to more media, and grow a bit more mature in understanding games and fiction. MGS is a damn good series, however it's not 'the deepest' in terms of stories in video games, nor will it ever will be.

No. It is because when people say it isn't 95% of the time they don't have any example of better series, and the other 5% of the time I get a 10+ year old text based RPG. So you can criticize the stry, the plot, the narrative and how it's told, which is all justified, and very easily criticized, but it's still at the VERY TOP of the video game medium. Sorry dude, but it is, having flaws doesn't change it, the series is simply deep and impressive for the videogame medium, even with all it's flaws and bad translations.
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Bastion dudes, Bastion even though it isn't story heavy, it's really emotional. Bastion was amazing.
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#7 AlistarHP
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="AlistarHP"][QUOTE="skrat_01"] You missed the " play more games"? 'Hater' No, I'm here to state the obvious - you think MGS is more than it is, which is an easy indicator of a kid who hasn't been exposed to enough media to actually see otherwise. That media includes games. But you didn't catch onto that did you?

What games?

What games would you like to play? There's a good deal of them that will scratch your noggin in a variety of ways. Honestly MGS3 is a good one (by no means the most brain tickling), but it deals with its themes really well, even in its camp glory; particularly its central theme 'what makes a true patriot'. Want a game that delves into philosophy and concepts you might be interested in (by all means I highly recommend checking it out if you do) - Planescape Torment. Deals with themes like freedom and free will extensively, and offers and huge breadth of choice. However it's not high flying action, and it is wordy.

When I claimed MGS has one of the best and deepest stories in gaming I meant the series as a whole, not MGS2 specifically, I've played and loved all MGS games. And if your going to be honest with yourself you'll admit how hard it is to come up with games that compete, one of the few I ever hear is Planescape Torment, a 10+ year old game that relies heavily on text(if not completely) to tell it's story. I'd say that does nothing to take away the merit MGS as a series deserves. And as I said in the OP, it's a lot more impressive coming from an action'esque game then it is from an RPG.
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#8 AlistarHP
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="AlistarHP"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]Recommending other forms of media is wrong how? Video games your only source of fictional media? Don't like games that are too wordy? No wonder you find MGS2's plot magnificent. Juveniles will be juvenile.

"no no no that video game story sucks because I read a book and watched a movie" Dude could you be any more irrelevant to this topic? Are we talking about books or movies? Was that ever adressed or put into the competition here? No, your jsut a hater that needed to come in here and act smart. Instead you look like an ass. "bu bu bu I read books"...

You missed the " play more games"? 'Hater' No, I'm here to state the obvious - you think MGS is more than it is, which is an easy indicator of a kid who hasn't been exposed to enough media to actually see otherwise. That media includes games. But you didn't catch onto that did you?

What games?
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#9 AlistarHP
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[QUOTE="AlistarHP"]You need to be a pretty big ignorant hater to come into a videogame forum, post in a videogame thread telling someone to read more books and watch more filmes. Not to bright this one. Silverbond
That doesn't even make sense. Is this really the future of SW?

In a videogame discussion, discrediting a video game with a book or a movie makes sense? Is this what has been of System Wars?
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#10 AlistarHP
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="AlistarHP"][QUOTE="skrat_01"] Read more books, play more games, watch more films. MGS3 is as good as MGS came to a strong plot, bookmarked by camp nonsense. The second was a convoluted mess this side of every damn anime to preach pseudo-philosophy, which results in a small legion of teenagers thinking it's the smartest and most enlightening thing ever.

You need to be a pretty big ignorant hater to come into a videogame forum, post in a videogame thread telling someone to read more books and watch more filmes. Not to bright this one.

Recommending other forms of media is wrong how? Video games your only source of fictional media? Don't like games that are too wordy? No wonder you find MGS2's plot magnificent. Juveniles will be juvenile.

"no no no that video game story sucks because I read a book and watched a movie" Dude could you be any more irrelevant to this topic? Are we talking about books or movies? Was that ever adressed or put into the competition here? No, your jsut a hater that needed to come in here and act smart. Instead you look like an ass. "bu bu bu I read books"...