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#1 Apathetic-Irony
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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

People actually listing FFXIII for a release this year? That's highly unlikely.

And Star Ocean 4 hasn't had a release date... LET ALONE a platform announcement :|

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Do you think they care? People just like listing games.

I care. People who actually want to compare lineups care.

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#2 Apathetic-Irony
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It's not like the 360 needs as many big hitter exclusives next year: It already has them. Games like Bioshock, Halo 3, Gears of War, Mass Effect, and Forza 2 won't just disappear once 2008 starts. Those titles alone justify a 360 purchase. Exclusives are much more important for the PS3 next year.
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X360 lineup for 2008 is horrible. I like how lemmings throw out Banjo 3 and Ninja Gaiden 2, but then in the same breath bash on games like Ratchet and Clank, Heavenly Sword, and Uncharted. Also whats the deal with Fable, I bought the first one and it sucked. Actually everyone I know that bought it pretty much agreed. It was horrible hype couldn't save it. EmperorSupreme

I wish we could have a System Wars without fanboys =X

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This is retarded... Everyone is getting mixed up in what they're actually debating..

Bottom line... XBL costs $$$$ if you're an XB gamer than that's the price of admission.. Until Sony and Nintendo step up their game and bring their service on par and or beyond what XBL is currently doing, then you won't see the service being offered for free. Besides with the way lemmings spend their money over live (microtransactions), why wouldn't they..

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[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"]

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]Bioshock is HD shovelware; gameplay has been done multiple times before and another FPS gimmick tries to brighten things up. A plothole-filled story/backstory doesn't help either, especially when the twist (and nearly every aspect of the gameplay) is eerily similar to another game called System Shock 2. Lack of enemy variety and bad AI help push the hyped-up experience further into the trashcan.Saturos3091

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Hey, I modified my post to explain my opinion a bit more thoroughly. The game really was a let down for all of us who were carried away on hype and gameplay videos.

It still doesn't make it shovelwear. I was just kidding with my post though; I just couldn't resist =[

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This is not counting many hundreds of WW1 & II based shooters and racing games that I consider shovelware. After all, if shovelware is about making a quick buck out of something popular, then shouldnt WW1 & II or racing games be shovelware?

Not to mention, there are loads of games on the 360 that are ports of Xbox games such as King Kong and Gun. Really, what was the point? Its a scam to make money off HD.

I study history and nothing p*sses me off more than seeing 3 1/2 shelves of "military history" books, with 90% iof them being WWI & II, and barely a shelf and a half of regular history in comparison. Its so f*cking boring! I feel a blog post coming on......

HD Shovelware:

XBOX 360

Avatar the Last Airbender - The Burning Earth

Bee Movie Game

Big Bumpin'

Bionicle Heroes

Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WW II

Blazing Angels 2: Secret Missions of WWII

Bomberman: Act Zero

Cabela's African Safari

Cabela's Alaskan Adventure

Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2008

Cabela's Monster Bass

Cabela's Trophy Bucks

Cars

The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian

Civil War: A Nation Divided

Clive Barker's Jericho

Dead or Alive Xtreme 2

Eragon

The Golden Compass

Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix

Hot Wheels: Beat That!

Hour of Victory

Iron Man

Import Tuner Challenge

Kane & Lynch: Dead Men

Kengo: Legend of the 9

Looney Tunes: Acme Arsenal

Lost: The Video Game

Madagascar 2: The Crate Escape

Meet the Robinsons

Monster Jam

The Outfit

Open Season

Over G Fighters

Pimp My Ride

Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End

Pocket Bike Racing

Rapala Tournament Fishing

Ratatouille

Scene It? Lights, Camera, Action

Shrek the Third

Spiderman 3

Spiderman: Friend or Foe

Superman Returns

Surf's Up

TMNT

all Tony Hawk crap

Tomb Raider compilations too

Transformers: The Game

World Championship Poker

X-Men: The Official Game

This is just for the 360, and it took me ages. I really cant be bothered doing one for the PS3, but no doubt it will be as long.

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The difference is that the 360 has a tower of great games pertruding from that forest of crap. Wii has a little block fort that hardly scrapes the canopy.

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Bioshock is HD shovelware; gameplay has been done multiple times before and another FPS gimmick tries to brighten things up. A plothole-filled story/backstory doesn't help either, especially when the twist (and nearly every aspect of the gameplay) is eerily similar to another game called System Shock 2. Lack of enemy variety and bad AI help push the hyped-up experience further into the trashcan.Saturos3091

Goodbye logic and Saturos3091's credibility. (12.19.07)

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[QUOTE="Popadophalis"]Lol define shovelware for us please because I'm pretty sure everyone here agrees that games like heavenly sword, Folklore and Stranglehold etc aren't shovelware.darth-pyschosis

Hardware doesn't make a crappy game better.

But it does have higher standards than lesser hardware. A crapp game for the 360 might be a pretty decent game for the Wii. Kind of like how rotten food is garbage for the rich, but a feast for the homeless.

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Lair isn't shovelwear. It was a high-calibur title that fell from grace and crash landed into an abandoned nuclear cache.

I thought shovelwear were games with low production cost and time, merely made to be pumped out ASAP and maximize profit at the cost of the least amount of quality possible.

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#10 Apathetic-Irony
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[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"]

Do you even remember your point? You were saying you can throw in the cost of 360 games since it has so many great games to play. I was saying some people prefer the PS3 games, so you need to throw in the cost for PS3 games if you include the cost for 360 games.

I don't see what 360 games being rated higher/selling better/being critically acclaimed/making the console more appealing have to do with it. It's like you turned it around and made it into something completely different.

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That wasn't my original point. My original point was that factoring in XBL and the cost of BD movies to both consoles makes them relatively even as far as price goes, since this thread started with the cost of XBL. If TC wasn't trying to insinuate 360's cost then what was point of his thread? I mentioned BD as a counterpoint to this rehash of a thread.

And how is the console with the most highest rated games not more appealing than a console with less. That doesn't make sense. People are more inclined to get the console with the most games, regardless of someones opinion. Especially when you have 2 consoles that are relatively identicle.

You mentioned the cost of 360 games, and I was saying you need to include the cost of PS3 games as well.

As for your second part, I don't even know where you're going with that or were getting the idea that I said any of, so I just won't reply to it.