[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Did you see the last part of the video where that dude shoots the big fuel storage tanks. That looks like that Crysis video where those exploding barrels blowup. Bad Company is going to rock. :o

Bebi_vegeta

Yes and I also see all the houses standing wich makes no F!!!!!! sense.

If you listened to the commentary, you would know that they did this on purpose for design purposes. They felt it was a more satisfying and visually appealing experience to see the destroyed shambles of a town, as opposed to a flat waste.

[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"]

My statement was directed at the present, as it has done something for games. I've said it several times, I'll say it again: STORAGE HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH GAME LENGTH. CITING HOW SHORT UNCHARTED OR HEAVENLY SWORD IS AS "PROOF" OF BLU-RAY DOING NOTHING FOR GAMES IS MORONIC, AS BLU-RAY DOESN'T FACTOR INTO GAME LENGTH. Blu-Ray more quality and variety potential. Whether games currently utilize this, I cannot say. I do know it has allowed developers to put all languages on one disc.

OhSnapitz

"..as it has done something for games."

"Whether games currently utilize this, I cannot say"

YOUR WORDS and they make absolutely no sense.. :|

I agree. I've been cycling through threads and I don't even remember what your original point even was that I was commenting on.

If anyone should complain its the people who play WoW,they pay $180 a year just to play one game online.

Also If I could spen $50 on a cell phone bill a year I would prolly crap myself,also $50 for XBL compared to the $1300 I just spent this year on video games and a ps3 which one should go down in price, a online service or video game prices?

Ballroompirate

WoW has updates and new content added pretty often. I wish Microsoft would throw people a bone and give away free stuff to Gold Members more often =[ They should at least make the basic games (solitair and the like) free like Three Red Lights (IGN podcast) was saying.

[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"]

You just love throwing in stuff as you go, don't you?

If you were throwing in the play time of games like Heavenly Sword and Uncharted to "counter" the bigger storage point, that was a moronic way of doing it. Storage =/= game length. Development cost and time factors into that. Blu-ray allows for more quality and variety, not length.

OhSnapitz

Those are facts my friend.. Those games are short. As are alot of games this gen. But the fact of the matter is bluray has done NOTHING for games on the PS3 that couldn't be done on the 360. Obviously that's just speaking for the here and now. Anything else is mere speculation.

I never denied that, or said otherwise. I just think it's stupid to say Blu-Ray has no benefit to games. As I said, Blu-Ray has nothing to do with length. You brought up game length for no reason, which was what I was saying. I wasn't arguing that they were not indeed short.

When did I say Blu-Ray has no benefit to games.. I said it has done nothing for games, speaking for the here and now. No where did I say this is the future of the media. ANd I brought up the length of those games to further back my statement. If the games aren't any longer, prettier (save for maybe Uncharted), "better" than 360 games, then what has bluray done to benefit games thus far... That's what I'm saying..

Also I think it's very moronic to think Sony included br into the PS3 to "help out games".. They're trying to corner the market on the next media. If br succeeds then EVERYONE will have to go through Sony to incorparate it into their products.. Stevie Wonder can see that.

OhSnapitz

When did I say or think Sony included BR to help out games?

My statement was directed at the present, as it has done something for games. I've said it several times, I'll say it again: STORAGE HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH GAME LENGTH. CITING HOW SHORT UNCHARTED OR HEAVENLY SWORD IS AS "PROOF" OF BLU-RAY DOING NOTHING FOR GAMES IS MORONIC, AS BLU-RAY DOESN'T FACTOR INTO GAME LENGTH. Blu-Ray more quality and variety potential. Whether games currently utilize this, I cannot say. I do know it has allowed developers to put all languages on one disc.

[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"]

That was what I wasn't sure about: whether the memory card included has Live compatability.

And library is subject, always. But yes, the XBOX 360 does have higher rated games. As I said, some people just think Folklore, Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Warhawk, and Ratchet & Clank are superior to Halo 3, Bioshock, Gears of War, Mass Effect, and Forza 2, despite all of the latter getting higher scores and higher sales.

Pro_wrestler

That doesn't mean anything..just because I think certain games are better doesn't mean anyone else will. They will look at how well recieved games are and thats a selling point for 360 and no other console. It's a fact that the 360 has more higher rated, critically acclaimed games.

Do you even remember your point? You were saying you can throw in the cost of 360 games since it has so many great games to play. I was saying some people prefer the PS3 games, so you need to throw in the cost for PS3 games if you include the cost for 360 games.

I don't see what 360 games being rated higher/selling better/being critically acclaimed/making the console more appealing have to do with it. It's like you turned it around and made it into something completely different.

[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"]

You just love throwing in stuff as you go, don't you?

If you were throwing in the play time of games like Heavenly Sword and Uncharted to "counter" the bigger storage point, that was a moronic way of doing it. Storage =/= game length. Development cost and time factors into that. Blu-ray allows for more quality and variety, not length.

gamenux

Those are facts my friend.. Those games are short. As are alot of games this gen. But the fact of the matter is bluray has done NOTHING for games on the PS3 that couldn't be done on the 360. Obviously that's just speaking for the here and now. Anything else is mere speculation.

Also I think it's very moronic to think Sony included br into the PS3 to "help out games".. They're trying to corner the market on the next media. If br succeeds then EVERYONE will have to go through Sony to incorparate it into their products.. Stevie Wonder can see that.

I never denied that, or said otherwise. I just think it's stupid to say Blu-Ray has no benefit to games. As I said, Blu-Ray has nothing to do with length. You brought up game length for no reason, which was what I was saying. I wasn't arguing that they were not indeed short.

Br will have it affect on ps3 gaming. Maybe not all but some games do call for it.|

Floppes, cd, dvd.. when is having more space for developers to play around in.... a bad idea?

Is this directed at me? Blu-Ray's effects will not deal with length. The only effect it will have there is in RPGs, but the XBOX 360 can just use multiple DVDs. Changing a DVD every 20 hours is hardly a negative worth noting.

And the Blu-Ray drive in the PS3 requires developers to use the same texture multiple times due to the read speed being low. It sort of negates a bit of the benefits -- though not by a huge amount. The PS3's hardware is much more limiting on Blu-Ray than read speeds.

I do agree that more space is never a bad thing.

[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"]

Yes, $50 isn't just "nothing".

But I would take live and spend $50 a year, over PSN and not pay at all.

djxaquaxblue

i swear, why do people always say you cant play worth a crap on PSN? ive owned my PS3 since launch and never had a major problem other than lag at times and dont BS...everyone lags once in awhile. oh and dont start that you pay for what you get BS either cuz cousin lags mad dirty at his place on XBL a lot more than it should.

Where do I say you can't play worth crap on PSN?

Is there some sort of hidden text that's randomly being inserted into every one of my posts where people keep infering different messages?

[QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"]

In my opinion this game looks just as good as Crysis, and has all the same physics as crysis and the more important part is that its running on a 360 and is not even final code. the only element of crysis that might not be able to duplicate on consoles is the sheer size of some levels but it certainly could be done. u would have to be a fool to beleive Cryteks claim's that the consoles couldn't run their game, its all PR talk to boost nVidia 8800 cards.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/842/842156p1.html hermits please watch this and try to keep a straight face that Crysis couldn't run on a console, and these consoles haven't even been maxed out yet.

looks just as good as Crysis oh and btw this is DX9. how do u hermits justify all your hefty hardware that should produce games that look 3 times better than console games yet cant even run Crysis at reasonable framerate?

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Frunku

The models are good, but these are definately bullshots with 1000x AA like H3 Photo Mode.

H3 photo mode is completely in-game. It has jaggies just like normal game-play.

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]lol i find it funny that cows complain about the price on xbl...when most of them dont even have a 360....gamenux

Who complains about the PSN? I just see XBOX Live owners saying it's a superior experience over PSN.