[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"]

Blu-Ray also = bigger storage space for games. PS3 also has better audio, wi-fi, and the option to play Blu-Ray movies.

Pro_wrestler

I thought we were talking value, considering you're saying it defeated the purpose of having a Blu-Ray player when all you use is DVDs. I was saying the lossless audio, wi-fi, and the option to play Blu-Ray movies make up for not using it.

[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

It ballances out once you factor in that BD movies are a minimum of 50% of the price regular DVDs and the PS3 is atleast $50 more..so.

Pro_wrestler

PS3 owners aren't limited to Blu-Ray movies. They can purchase DVDs too, and I believe it upscales them.

If there is one thing the PS3 does well, it's Blu Ray. Trying to argue against that feature is like trying to argue against XBOX 360's game library. If you want a Blu-Ray player, PS3 is a great deal. If you just want video games, XBOX 360 is the system for it.

The 360 can play and upscalethem for at least $50 less. That defeats the purpose of having BD if all your going to do is play DVDs. :)

Blu-Ray also = bigger storage space for games. PS3 also has better audio, wi-fi, and the option to play Blu-Ray movies.

[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"][QUOTE="gamenux"][QUOTE="ss5rmp"]

4.16 per month.

if u cant afford that then u probably shouldnt be owning a 360 or any console for that matter.

gamenux

Factoring in the "10 year cycle" is incredibly moronic.

Do you know what the PS1/PS2 have in common that the PS3 doesn't, usually the biggest factor in a life span of a console? PS1/PS2 SOLD INCREDIBLY WELL AND WERE #1 FOR THEIR RESPECTIVE GENERATIONS!

PS3 is selling as good as Gamecube was last generation, and is currently in 3rd place. Saying it will last as well as the PS2 is up in the air at this point. Throwing in the "10 year cycle" is just a sign of desperation at this point.

Why do you do $400 / 208? You're talking $1.92 a week, not a month.

The PS3 is $8.33 a month, the same as the XBOX 360.

Yeah, you've got to add the HDDVD addon if you count blu ray movies. And then 3 HDDVD movies.

The whole 2 free games is a temporary deal, might I add. Could put in the "Free 5 blu-ray movies" as a temporary deal for ps3. And Motorstorm comes free with the 80gb.

Er, it's pointless to compare prices really.

Khanezhyray

Forza 2 > Motorstorm! HAHAHAHAHA!

But seriously, you're right. This is about XBOX Live vs PSN, not which console is cheaper.

[QUOTE="ss5rmp"][QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"][QUOTE="gamenux"][QUOTE="ss5rmp"]

4.16 per month.

if u cant afford that then u probably shouldnt be owning a 360 or any console for that matter.

gamenux

that was pointless. your comparing prices for xbl to buying a console.

not to mention the ps3 will only last about 2 more years the way its sucking right now. no way it lasts 10yrs.

to prove my point: name 5 games that are any good on the ps3 that are exclusives.

Call of Duty 4 and Burnout Paradise are PS3 exclusive? HOLY BONKERS!

I personally don't think the Burnout series is very good. I think you would be better off going with Assassin's Creed as a multiplat.

i refuse to pay for XBL, it is just rediculous to pay to play your games onlinemattyomo99

Especially when you think the 360 is maxed out at Gears and love the PS3 :roll:

[QUOTE="Apathetic-Irony"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

It ballances out once you factor in that BD movies are a minimum of 50% of the price regular DVDs and the PS3 is atleast $50 more..so.

OhSnapitz

PS3 owners aren't limited to Blu-Ray movies. They can purchase DVDs too, and I believe it upscales them.

If there is one thing the PS3 does well, it's Blu Ray. Trying to argue against that feature is like trying to argue against XBOX 360's game library. If you want a Blu-Ray player, PS3 is a great deal. If you just want video games, XBOX 360 is the system for it.

No PS3 owners aren't limited to just blurays... But if they don't purchase them, then they just spent $400-$600 for a videogame console. :? A console that has no more compelling software than it's cheaper competition... :|

Why are you trying so hard to change the subject?

We're discussing the cost of XBOX Live being justified when compared to the free PSN. If you want to discuss the quality of the PS3 in comparison to its price, start a new thread.

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]COD4 and AC....i know they have sold more on the 360, but they still have sold 1 million + on both consolesMrSickVisionz

I really need a link for that. I'll even let you use vgchartz.com. I was using NPD data in another thread to prove the same argument of PS3 games getting outsold more than close to 3:1 and over despite the install base vs the 360 being 2:1. From NPD I pulled Assasin's Creed, Call of Duty 4, NCAA Football and Madden 08. These were the only multi-plat games where the PS3 ranked high enough for me to see numbers or the #10 game (since GS only list sales data on the top 10) sold low enough to where it had to be 3:1 or worse. I'm not sure where the other guy got numbers on Rock Band from, but its certainly would live up to the trend.

The "just wait" attitude is going to kill the PS3. There are good games out there but they just aren't doing well on the PS3, not even proportionately well. Its almost like if its not an exclusive game, the current PS3 install base isn't gonna buy it. And even if it is exclusive, theres a high chance it will get slept on. R&C and Uncharted are actually quality games and really should be in alot of PS3 owners collection (given what there currently is available on the PS3), yet their sales haven't been what you would think they'd be. Especially ratchet and clank, which is a sequel to a commercial and critically successful PS2 series.

I don't think that the PS2 owners who would buy games like R&C and Uncharted have bought PS3s yet. I think they still need another price drop. The current owners are those hardcore FF, MGS and GT fans who pretty much don't buy anything but those games. If 2008 comes and goes and multi-plats still are performing bad and 3rd parties outside of the PS1 classics (Resident Evil, MGS, GT, FF) are struggling... I think developers may turn away from the system simply because for one reason or another, PS3 owners aren't gonna buy their games regardless of quality.

That just about sums everything up that was on my mind.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

i think i herd this awhile ago, i know DMC4 and burnout has the ps3 as the lead platform and they are being ported over to the 360,

mattyomo99

Oh yeah, I forgot about DMC4 being better on PS3 according to some sources. The difference there is that the Developers aren't saying it's better, it's just been noticed.

Criterion actually is telling people what's up with their latest game.

The PS3 is powerful, but it's hard to develop for when compared to the 360, but it's nice to see some developers step up to the challenge.

The 360 has had a good run, but it seems like it topped out when Gear of War (Xmas 2006) hit. Of course, surprises are still waiting in the wings, because I think my 360 still has some juice left.

its funny because all the fan boys bash the ps3 for blu-ray not being needed, but its clearly going to be a HUGE advantage when games like GT5 and FFXIII come out. look at LO and blue dragon on the 360 both have multiple disks, Mass Effects main story is the shortest ive ever seen in a RPG, and new ips like LA noire are not even possible on the 360 because of disk space. If gears of war 2 dosnt look alot better then gears one, the 360willbemaxed out sadly

This is like a PS3 circle jerk.

It's all speculation, lets wait and see how much "better" these games are, or if the difference is as negligable as COD4/Assassin's Creed.

Or even true.

It ballances out once you factor in that BD movies are a minimum of 50% of the price regular DVDs and the PS3 is atleast $50 more..so.

Pro_wrestler

PS3 owners aren't limited to Blu-Ray movies. They can purchase DVDs too, and I believe it upscales them.

If there is one thing the PS3 does well, it's Blu Ray. Trying to argue against that feature is like trying to argue against XBOX 360's game library. If you want a Blu-Ray player, PS3 is a great deal. If you just want video games, XBOX 360 is the system for it.