Earth Defense Force 2017! Seriously, this game is awful. It's litered with bugs, has so much slowdown in spots, has crappy graphics and animation, it's repetitive, etc.

That being said, it's also one of the funnest shooters out there. It really is a load of fun.

Anyone else understand what I mean?

They probably have the same amount of content, the xbox version is an arcade game afterall.

I'd say it just boils down to this- do you want it portable?

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While I obviously cannot argue with your "I hated X character" points, how do you find Kaim to be bland? He's one of the more deeper personalities in games since a while. Or did you not read the dreams and wouldn't be able to realize the significance of some of the in game actions?Mlauthemighty

I read the dreams. Would've prefered a more direct approach. Sure they added lots of depth to him but they completely failed to make me emphatize with the character I was controlling. Oh well, at least he was'nt a 14 year old super soldier (Always perplexes me why jrpg heroes tend to be superpowered incredikids with vast untapped potential and issues from top to toe).

Just making sure you weren't saying that he's the flat emotionless character you find in lots of jrpgs, because he's not a cardboard cut out character in any way.

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After the first disc, the game was Boring as heck, and the story couldn't have been more CLICHE if they tried.>Mlauthemighty

I'm not arguing score here, but I'm just informing the people who are into these games that these issues aren't here.

As you can see, I'm typing in bold in hope to get this across your thick skull. Maybe bold font is the key to the supremicist's mind?

And anyway, even if this is someone's first jrpg and they like it, so what? Then they like it. Understand? A game doesn't have to be universally liked to enjoy that, something that JRPG fans understand more than enough.

There's alot of us who agree with him though. In my opinion the story ended up going nowhere and Gongorra is one of the worst Villain's ever to star a jrpg :/

Here's my take on the cast:

Kaim: Ok, but a bit bland.

Seth: I probably liked her best.

Sarah: I had to look up her name just now. That's how much she impressed me.

Ming: I hate that veiny breasted whore.

Cooke: Only positive thing I can say about her is that I hate Mack more.

Mack: See Cooke.

Tolten: Oh dear.....

Sed: I actually sort of liked him. Seth's son, guess that explains it.

Gongorra: This guy saw Disney's "Beaty and the Beast" and decided he liked Gaston. Also known as Dark Hercules. He would probably have fitted the role of funny henchman for bad guy nr. 2 in a jrpg (bad guy nr. 2 is the one that gets offed on disc 2 to make way for the true evil). Suppose they got me there. I really thought he'd bugger off to make way for someone proper.

Sry if I'm being offensive but my inner troll got the best of me.

If you enjoy it, that's cool but for me it went:

Semi borish start (most rpg's are like this, need time to build up the plot) ---> Thing's are getting intense ---> Guess I'll go troll on my pc.

And anyway, I finally understad why the giantbomb forums say "let's not let this become system wars". This place is awful. I made a post about how the Last Remnant's main issue is fine in the final version and instead this becomes a "jrpgs suck" debate?

Seriously, I don't like to say this, but GTFO.

[QUOTE="angry_fork"]Uncharted and Ratchet's "bad" things are also highly exaggerated. Deal with it.Tragic_Kingdom7

I hate sassy posts like this. The TC feels like more people might go out and experience this game if he tells them that the pop-up is not so bad. There's nothing wrong with this. "Deal with it" has to be one of the most annoying, inflammatory phrases on System Wars.

BTW, I thought GameSpot was pretty dead-on with their main criticisism of Uncharted. There was indeed a weird inbalance between the ease of the platforming and difficulty of the gunplay. However, they still gave that game a deservedly good score.