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#1 Bitter_Altmer
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For all we know you could be abour 4 feet tall without a full body pic.

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#2 Bitter_Altmer
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ITT: OP got cheated on and his girlfriend is pretending it was rape.

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[QUOTE="Bitter_Altmer"]You'd obviously be breaking the law if you were gaining access to his DNA, seeing as it would be in the hands of the authorities.dkrustyklown

...and if I am a corrupt politican in a position to bend the "authorities" to my will, then what?

Blind obedience and loyalty to "authorities" is dangerous. Those "authorities" that you trust so freely with your liberties are people. They are no less susceptible to the vices of personal ambition or corruption than any man on the streets. The belief in the infalibility of authority opens the door to corrupton on a grand scale.

Shall I point out the continuing saga of corruption in the Maricopa County Sherif's department? Or perhaps the complicity of "authorities" in the murders of civil rights activists during the 1960's?

That depends on what department you work in, not just any old politician will have access to those kind of records. "Blind obedience and loyalty to authorities is dangerous. Those authorities that you trust so freely with your liberties are people. They are no less susceptible to the vices of personal ambition or corruption than any man on the streets" Then what do you propose as an alternative? Robots patrolling the streets, cleaning up crime?
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[QUOTE="Bitter_Altmer"] You'd obviously be breaking the law if you were gaining access to his DNA, seeing as it would be in the hands of the authorities.dkrustyklown

Oh, because governmental corruption does not exist and the authorities never break the law or violate the public trust.

"after an investigator reported last week that crime-lab chemists in the fourth-largest U.S. city faked results to help police in at least four cases." "Two men were released from prison after retesting of evidence in 407 cases involving DNA evidence revealed errors with the evidence used to convict them. " Wow, such high figures to back up your case. Nobody is debating it never happens. I never said that. I merely said it'd help against solving cases. Also, it'd be in the hands of the authorities like I said so it'd be up to them to do that. It'd be a sorry country if the majority of them were going to be playing dirty tricks like that.
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#5 Bitter_Altmer
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[QUOTE="TirOrn"]

Could you please enlighten me as to what can possibly be accomplished with my DNA in your hands?

dkrustyklown

I can clone cellular tissue by inserting your DNA into an empty stem cell, thereby creating tissue that contains your DNA. I can then murder a random person and leave the tissue containing your DNA at the scene in order to falsely implicate you in the crime. At this point, you can be stripped of your liberty and locked away and/or executed by judicial means.

If you don't think that this is scientifically possible, then I suggest you look into the matter.

You'd obviously be breaking the law if you were gaining access to his DNA, seeing as it would be in the hands of the authorities.
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[QUOTE="Bitter_Altmer"]Your government wants what is best for you.dkrustyklown

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's a joke, right?

"Your government wants what is best for you." That's sig-worthy. Government is comprised of people. People are ambitious beings. Government does not seek what is best for me or you. Government seeks what is best for the people in a position of sufficient power to decide government's policy. If you think that government is an inherently altruistic entity, then I suggest that you refresh yourself with the continious history of tyranny that is the norm of human civilization.

Do we need government, in some form? Sure. Do we need to trust government? Absolutely not. Must all authority rest in government? Absolutely not. Unchecked governmental power is the path to slavery.

You're very paranoid. Give me one good reason why DNA sampling is detrimental to citizens of the U.S, and don't give me "Breach of liberty" because there is no such thing as proper liberty in any country these days. The government is in charge of running the country, and catching criminals helps to benefit a country and its citizens. And if DNA sampling helps catch criminals then there is no problem. There IS a problem if people are so paranoid as to have their DNA on record. That shows complete irrationality and staunch unwillingness to contribute to stifling crime.
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[QUOTE="Bitter_Altmer"]

[QUOTE="MarcusAntonius"]

Obama has had his supermajority and has accomplished next to nothing except more debt. To blame things on a nearly powerless Republican minority is absurd. Perhaps his agenda is being rejected in a bipartisan fashion.

As far as the Palin's, you've got the story all wrong. The Heath family lived near the Canadian town of Whitehorse which had the closest hospital to Skagway at the time, where at the ripe old age of three, she received medical assistance. You sure fell for some easy spin on that one. Yeah, Sarah Palin sure snuck into Canada for her healthcare alright.:|

From the statements you've made, the only one who sounds like they're blindly following anything is you.

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Republican minority. No. Also, were you even alive during the Bush era? I was. While Obama may have left America in even more debt, Bush was the one who done the damage pre Obama ;)

As for your point on Palin, I'm talking about current Sarah Palin, not three year old Sarah Palin. Sure there wasn't a hospital near her currently? Doesn't seem very supportive or patriotic for her turning to Canada for healthcare. Way to go future candidate for U.S President.

A dyed-in-the-wool partisan, completely devoid of reasoning. We're done.

You must have not read the part where I said I'm not even American. I don't follow a political party. I follow what I think is best for my own country, and approve of what I think is best for another.
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[QUOTE="Bitter_Altmer"]

Are you afraid of your government?

dkrustyklown

Any person that values individual liberty and has even a cursory understanding of history would answer your question affirmatively.

Liberty can still be achieved. Its not the 1940's, and you are not living in Stalinist Russia. Your government wants what is best for you.
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[QUOTE="Bitter_Altmer"]Plenty of things can be taken from DNA. This includes a greater ease in catching criminals. Good day.dkrustyklown

It also includes greater ease in eliminating political rivals. Good day.

I didn't know politicians in America got arrested regularly. Oh well...
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[QUOTE="Bitter_Altmer"]

[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]

Haha. I love all the blind support for Obama in here. Just imagine the backlash that would have occurred over this if Bush come out in support of it. Absolutely pathetic.

MarcusAntonius

I love the hypocrisy too. You do know and notice that Republicans have been blindly rejecting any reforms/bills that Obama has proposed? Such as the healthcare bill... Sarah Palin recently said in a trip to Canada that her and her husband could not afford healthcare until they got union jobs, coming from the same woman who once said that people who could not afford healthcare is a "myth" It shows that republicans will oppose any reforms proposed in the current administration simply because its from a democrat. Not because America needs better healthcare or laws... She even admitted she travels to Canada for her healthcare.

And to be honest, it probably would be the same if it were the other way around. There is no middle ground for people interested in politics. Everyone blindly follows their own party. This is coming from somebody who doesn't even live in America.

Obama has had his supermajority and has accomplished next to nothing except more debt. To blame things on a nearly powerless Republican minority is absurd. Perhaps his agenda is being rejected in a bipartisan fashion.

As far as the Palin's, you've got the story all wrong. The Heath family lived near the Canadian town of Whitehorse which had the closest hospital to Skagway at the time, where at the ripe old age of three, she received medical assistance. You sure fell for some easy spin on that one. Yeah, Sarah Palin sure snuck into Canada for her healthcare alright.:|

From the statements you've made, the only one who sounds like they're blindly following anything is you.

Republican minority. No. Also, were you even alive during the Bush era? I was. While Obama may have left America in even more debt, Bush was the one who done the damage pre Obama ;)

As for your point on Palin, I'm talking about current Sarah Palin, not three year old Sarah Palin. Sure there wasn't a hospital near her currently? Doesn't seem very supportive or patriotic for her turning to Canada for healthcare. Way to go future candidate for U.S President.