[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] people dont understand that life isnt fair. The point im trying to make is the that the government shouldnt make the rich give money to the poor, its a moral decision based on the beholder of the money, not a governmentsLJS9502_basic
It's not about giving money to the poor...it's about the extrememly wealthy paying a bigger share of government expenses than say the middle cIass or the poor. Depends on if its a floating rate or fixed rate, dunno what it is in the US.If fixed rate, a percentage of a lower sum is means more paid, at least to the person giving.
[QUOTE="Bitter_Altmer"][QUOTE="xaos"]Mmmm, I consider "funny" and "wrong" to be pretty orthogonal. In the case of this protest (counterprotest?), I mostly consider the religious students response ill-considered, since the other students were obviously just trying to provoke a reaction, which they got.PannicAtack
This is the way I look at it, if they were looking for a reaction, it was a master stroke.But while they got the reaction, I thought it was weak for the Christians not to show a bit more belief and not just retreat to their holy text.I'd be a bit more vocal or assertive than that. And as such, that'd be used as ammunition by said atheist group as "see? Look how crazy they are!" On the other hand thats true yeah. Still, if their belief is so strong shouldn't they stand up? *shrugs*
Mmmm, I consider "funny" and "wrong" to be pretty orthogonal. In the case of this protest (counterprotest?), I mostly consider the religious students response ill-considered, since the other students were obviously just trying to provoke a reaction, which they got.xaos
This is the way I look at it, if they were looking for a reaction, it was a master stroke.But while they got the reaction, I thought it was weak for the Christians not to show a bit more belief and not just retreat to their holy text.I'd be a bit more vocal or assertive than that. That kinda sounds contradictory but hopefully it'll be understood.
From what I can tell, that is exactly what they did...just turn the other cheek and read the bible.But this is going no where fast...have a great day :)rawsavon
[QUOTE="Bitter_Altmer"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] I doubt they were praying for divine intervention...more like praying for strength to be the bigger person or praying for those that do not agree with them -confrontation would have been the least effective means of handling the situation...what would it have done besides make the Christians look badrawsavon
It would have actually made the Christians look good, because it would give them the strength, as you put it, to be the bigger people and show they're not afraid to stand up for what they believe in.As I said before, what good is reciting something that the athiests don't believe in? I doubt fear had anything to do with thier actions. -fear is what drives people to do stupid things... Also, I do not think they were "reciting something" for the atheists benefit...just for themselves and to engage in peaceful protest Nobody said the Christians were afraid and I don't belive in that saying of fear driving people to do stupid things.For example, your being faced down in an alleway with three men armed with knives in front of you baying for your blood.Fear takes hold and you run, and get away.Dunno about you but thats pretty smart in my opinion. I never said it was for the benefit of the athiests either, its quite hard to convert athiests by reciting the bible.The point I'm making is that the Christians might as well have turned the other cheek by confiding in the bible, because it made no progress in the situation from what I can see.
[QUOTE="Bitter_Altmer"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] I doubt they were praying for divine intervention...more like praying for strength to be the bigger person or praying for those that do not agree with them -confrontation would have been the least effective means of handling the situation...what would it have done besides make the Christians look badLJS9502_basic
It would have actually made the Christians look good, because it would give them the strength, as you put it, to be the bigger people and show they're not afraid to stand up for what they believe in.As I said before, what good is reciting something that the athiests don't believe in? Because the fact that someone holds different beliefs obviously bothered these atheists......so that would bother them as well....psychological. I'm sure thats not entirely accurate.As someone above said, I'm sure its dumb kids being dumb kids.As a moderate Catholic, it doesn't bother me if someone has different beliefs, and it shouldn't bother anyone.Even if that were true, it still didn't stop them trading did it?
[QUOTE="Bitter_Altmer"]Its pathetic because its a protest.Every Christian knows that praying to God doesn't guarantee divine intervention, God gave us free will to deal with our problems, its not up to him.So y'know, maybe the Christians should do something more assertive than praying to God like, y'know, actually confronting the porn traders? And before anyone jumps on this, confronting =/= violence.rawsavon
I doubt they were praying for divine intervention...more like praying for strength to be the bigger person or praying for those that do not agree with them -confrontation would have been the least effective means of handling the situation...what would it have done besides make the Christians look bad It would have actually made the Christians look good, because it would give them the strength, as you put it, to be the bigger people and show they're not afraid to stand up for what they believe in.As I said before, what good is reciting something that the athiests don't believe in?
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