[QUOTE="Blayrre_D"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Blayrre_D"]

Well, in time, they would care. Just like in time, they cared about the difference in mono vs stereo, or stereo vs dolby digital 5.1. Etc....

Narwaffle

Yes, the general public cares so much that most new music is consumed digitally, through heavily lossy and compressed MP3s. :roll:

New music isn't listened to in home theater systems. It's listened to via Ipods and MP3 players. People who listen to music in their home theater system use things like SACD.

Well, that might simply be out of necessity. Perhaps they have no other choice but to do that or because that is the most convienent way.

[QUOTE="Blayrre_D"]

[QUOTE="KirbyFan10101"]"True HD" is a ridiculous term by a perfectionists standards. Unless you have an absolutely stellar audio system and analyze the differences professionally you won't notice the power of "lossless" audio.Narwaffle

YOu don't really need a stellar audio system. Mid-range is good enough to hear the benefits.

Midrange speakers shouldn't distort the sound quality... unless you and I have a different idea of what midrange is. :D

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[QUOTE="Raidea"]Lame topic. I'm willing to bet the topic creator is tone deaf anyway, and probably can't tell the difference between 2.1 and 5.1 (what little difference there is).Raidea

Again... little difference? 2 back speakers and a centre speaker is little?

You're saying they don't work without 5.1? Sure, 5.1 is interesting to have, but it's not a life changing experience and certainally not as clear as the display change between SD and HD.

This is stupid anyway. I'm sure the topic creator doesn't even care his PS3 has 5.1, heck, he's probably running it from a 21" SDTV with inbuilt speakers.

Eh?

http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/

:D

[QUOTE="Blayrre_D"]

Well, in time, they would care. Just like in time, they cared about the difference in mono vs stereo, or stereo vs dolby digital 5.1. Etc....

SpruceCaboose

Yes, the general public cares so much that most new music is consumed digitally, through heavily lossy and compressed MP3s. :roll:

New music isn't listened to in home theater systems. It's listened to via Ipods and MP3 players. People who listen to music in their home theater system use things like SACD.

"True HD" is a ridiculous term by a perfectionists standards. Unless you have an absolutely stellar audio system and analyze the differences professionally you won't notice the power of "lossless" audio.KirbyFan10101

YOu don't really need a stellar audio system. Mid-range is good enough to hear the benefits.

Heh, I have 4 back speakers. :D

Now, I just need some 7.1 LPCM tracks....

[QUOTE="Blayrre_D"][QUOTE="Narwaffle"][QUOTE="Blayrre_D"]

[QUOTE="Narwaffle"]Video games aside, if you want lossless audio (read: you are an audiophile), I recommend you buy a high end audio system with that kind of capability. Honestly, you're not going to be concentrating on the flaws of the audio track whilst engaged in a heated firefight with whoever during a video game, but you might if you're just an onlooker (read: watching a movie). The Xbox 360 and the PS3 are both cheap alternatives to HD-DVD/Blu-Ray players (which currently sell for about $1000USD), so it is a tad unfair of you to start beating on the 360 for it's lack of lossless audio when it's primary function is playing video games. /end sighNarwaffle

Well, here's my system. I'm not sure if it is a high end system but I can hear the difference. I don't really consider myself to be an audiophile though so I think everyone can enjoy the benefits of HD Audio.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa276/Windurst/pic1.jpg

Well, the Wii never claimed to be an HD system.

Also, not all games are fast paced. RPGs could really benefit from lossless audio. Imagine the Oblivion score in Dolby TrueHD or LPCM

Well, in time, they would care. Just like in time, they cared about the difference in mono vs stereo, or stereo vs dolby digital 5.1. Etc....

The Wii is supply constrained. I wouldn't be surprised if it only shipped 8.5 million...Eponique

I finally saw a few Wiis on the shelf the other day. They went up pretty quick. Wii will probably get close to 17-18 million by the end of this year.

And for those on both sides who think HD movies matter to most people.

Blu-ray: 5 to 1 Edge Over HD DVD Players Wednesday, June 20, 2007, 06:23 AM

Blu-ray: 5 to 1 Edge Over HD DVD Players
Research firm says 1.5 million homes have Blu-ray players.
By Phillip Swann

Washington, D.C. (June 20, 2007) -- Blu-ray players are in roughly 1.5 million homes -- five times more than its high-def DVD rival, HD-DVD.

That's according to the research firm Digital Entertainment Group, as reported by Video Business.

DEG says the 1.5 million Blu-ray homes include about 100,000 standalone Blu-ray players with the rest PlayStation 3 game consoles, which include Blu-ray players inside.

The research firm says there 300,000 HD DVD homes in the United States -- evenly split between standalone players and HD DVD XBox 360 attachment drives.

HERE

Look at how low the stand-alone players sales numers are. Only 250,000 stand-alone players in the market that aren't tied to game systems. That smacks of the general public not caring one bit about this HD war.

I was sitting there watching a *gasp* standard DVD upscalled to 720p with *oh noes* 5.1 DTS (it wasn't lossless!:cry:), and I though, "Wow, this still looks just fine for watching movies for now, and I didn't spend hundreds of dollars to get an HD player, and I didn't have to rebuy movies on a new format!"

SpruceCaboose

Well, that's because the best, most advanced and cheapest HD player on the market is a game system (Playstation 3). People looking to buy one would just buy that.

The only system that will surpass PS3 in terms of quality and price are the new 2nd gen Blu-Ray players coming this fall, which will retail for 600 bucks and be fully BD Java compliant.

[QUOTE="Blayrre_D"]

The HD experience includes both Video and Audio. There is nothing more beautiful than a great lossless audio track, such as the one found in Pirates of the Caribbean on Blu-Ray.

Because the Xbox 360 can not pass 5.1 channels of LPCM or even Dolby TrueHD or DTS-MA HD, it will never really be High Definition. Really, it's just half of the High Definition experience.

TOAO_Cyrus1

Modern audio compression is pretty much lossless. Stop kidding yourself.

Uh... no.