[QUOTE="Blayrre_D"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Blayrre_D"]

With Sony and Nintendo working together to provide 1080p on the Wii, there is no need to own a 360

http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/

heretrix

Wow, that makes you seem very naive. That is upscaled. It is no where near "real" 1080p.

Don't worry. The Xbox 360 has to upscale (badly) to achieve 1080p as well.

The only system that provides native 1080p is...

The Playstation 3.

News to me. Oh well. Last I read, it could only upscale to 1080p.

[QUOTE="Blayrre_D"]

[QUOTE="Narwaffle"]Video games aside, if you want lossless audio (read: you are an audiophile), I recommend you buy a high end audio system with that kind of capability. Honestly, you're not going to be concentrating on the flaws of the audio track whilst engaged in a heated firefight with whoever during a video game, but you might if you're just an onlooker (read: watching a movie). The Xbox 360 and the PS3 are both cheap alternatives to HD-DVD/Blu-Ray players (which currently sell for about $1000USD), so it is a tad unfair of you to start beating on the 360 for it's lack of lossless audio when it's primary function is playing video games. /end sighNarwaffle

Well, here's my system. I'm not sure if it is a high end system but I can hear the difference. I don't really consider myself to be an audiophile though so I think everyone can enjoy the benefits of HD Audio.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa276/Windurst/pic1.jpg

Well, the Wii never claimed to be an HD system.

Also, not all games are fast paced. RPGs could really benefit from lossless audio. Imagine the Oblivion score in Dolby TrueHD or LPCM

Video games aside, if you want lossless audio (read: you are an audiophile), I recommend you buy a high end audio system with that kind of capability. Honestly, you're not going to be concentrating on the flaws of the audio track whilst engaged in a heated firefight with whoever during a video game, but you might if you're just an onlooker (read: watching a movie). The Xbox 360 and the PS3 are both cheap alternatives to HD-DVD/Blu-Ray players (which currently sell for about $1000USD), so it is a tad unfair of you to start beating on the 360 for it's lack of lossless audio when it's primary function is playing video games. /end sighNarwaffle

Well, here's my system. I'm not sure if it is a high end system but I can hear the difference. I don't really consider myself to be an audiophile though so I think everyone can enjoy the benefits of HD Audio.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa276/Windurst/pic1.jpg

didnt u make a thread like this a while ago???OldParr

No.

Sonys definition of Shipped is not the same definition of shipped that Microsoft uses.

Microsoft shipped = the unit has left the warehouse and it is in route to retailers

Sony shipped = the unit has left the production factory and is now in a warehouse (it may or may not have been sold to a retailer because units from the warehouse are also used to replace damaged/malfunctioned units on warranty.)

Ryuhayabuza

Link to prove that these are the definitions that each company uses to define "shipped"?

Who cares about this anyway, it not as if there will be a noticable differencewhocares4peace

Oh, it is very noticible. I was watching "Bridge to Terebithia" on Blu-Ray last night and the LPCM 5.1 track was distinctively clearer, more detailedand more crispthan the Dolby Digital track.

360 in 1080P:

Source 1

Source 2

Source 3

Source 4

Source 5

Games in Native 1080p

Virtua Tennis

NBA Street Homecourt

Lost Planet

Superman Returns

360 using LPCM

Source

SpruceCaboose

Sorry, 360 isn't capable of 5.1 channels of LPCM. It is limited to 2.1. And even then, it only applies to the Xbox 360 Elite.

Can we get 5.1 LPCM through HDMI with the Elite?
No, the Elite apparently cannot pass a 5.1 LPCM signal. You can get 2.0 LPCM, or the same compressed streams you get out of the optical

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=748740

no, sony put out the shipped figures to show that they were close to the targeted 6 million shipped. remember the ps3 did have production problems. rued2k6

The great thing is that the PS3 is still shipping at a constant rate, unlike the Xbox 360.

This means retailers are still ordering more units.

[QUOTE="Blayrre_D"]

Uh, Microsoft uses shipped sales figures too. As does Nintendo, and practically every corporation on the planet.

A "shipped" unit is a "sold" unit to a retailer.

jedigemini

Except that's not the purpose of this thread.

The HD experience includes both Video and Audio. There is nothing more beautiful than a great lossless audio track, such as the one found in Pirates of the Caribbean on Blu-Ray.

Because the Xbox 360 can not pass 5.1 channels of LPCM or even Dolby TrueHD or DTS-MA HD, it will never really be High Definition. Really, it's just half of the High Definition experience.