[QUOTE="BuldozerX"][QUOTE="ZhugeL1ang"] Pretty much. Publishers can whine about the secondhand market all they want, but it's a mutually beneficial relationship between retailer and publisher. Like it has been said already, I think all this alleged blocking of used games is in point of fact online passes and key codes and such for bonus content and multiplayer. I wouldn't necessarily blow off legitimate concerns over this, but for now I don't believe that its really as bad as all that, not yet.ZhugeL1angYou make it sound like Gamestop is our best friend these days. :) Not so much that. but as a for-profit corporation, naturally they're going to be looking out for their interests. Not much of a bombshell there. I think it would be unwise for Microsoft or Sony to go down this road if indeed this is the direction they wish to go at the behest of the game publishers. Creating more barriers for entry into such a mainstream hobby will only result in reduced profits and Steam would be the big winner with its cheap game sales. In fact, if/when Steambox comes out, it could very well be a game changer. We have to see how this goes. Sony only said that they wont block games. If they installed some Steam based software on the PS4, it still wouldnt ban games, but restrict them. Gamestop cant ban every publisher anyway if something like that happened.
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[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]Something to consider is that if this was left up to the individual publisher, and not you know a full Sony mandate those few publishers would essentially be going to war with Gamestop. Then you could see GS threatening to pull any support for those publishers games. Besides just being an outlet to sell games they have a lot of advertising and such that helps sell the games more. It would be pretty risky to be one of the few publishers who do it. Not saying it's impossible though, but you can bet GS will fight it anyway they could.ZhugeL1angPretty much. Publishers can whine about the secondhand market all they want, but it's a mutually beneficial relationship between retailer and publisher. Like it has been said already, I think all this alleged blocking of used games is in point of fact online passes and key codes and such for bonus content and multiplayer. I wouldn't necessarily blow off legitimate concerns over this, but for now I don't believe that its really as bad as all that, not yet. You make it sound like Gamestop is our best friend these days. :)
Publishers decision or not, blocking used games would be a suicidal move. Online passes for multiplayer are borderline enough to work because that's just paying for access to an online function. Locking an entire game behind such a pass, however, would spell disaster. There are still too many people who never take their systems online, so you'd be blocking a large portion of consumers by default.
I can't see the idea taking off. It's too risky.
You basically dont have to be online in order for this to work. Steam games can be played offline, but you have to activate them online. Everyone can do that. If you dont have internet at home, just use a cell phone to log on.[QUOTE="BuldozerX"]But also, like i said, they want people to buy the game used so they might pay for either online multiplayer passes, DLC or to unlock single player contant that new copies gets for free. A block would just turn gamers off from buying the game in the first place. Also, Gamestop would probably ignore the game.c_rake
The online passes are only locking out very small portions of content, though. What's seven quests in comparison to hundreds? They're akin to pre-order bonuses in that the content is a small addition. Obviously you can't quite say the same about multiplayer, but locking that behind a pass makes sense. If you really want multiplayer, $10 isn't a big deal.
Yes, but the multiplayer online in each game will eventully die anyway. Just look at EA MMA. They shut down the multiplayer servers after a few years, so now multiplayer is blocked. If they did this to single player the game would be useless now, but I can still enjoy the single player, so the game will last forever, and it will earn its place among retro gaming sometime in the future. This is important to me.Or am I talking non sense?
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That's stupid. You know exactly what Activision will do with the COD series now (even though it won't effect me because I won't be buying any).
Why would they? They still haven't put an online pass into COD, something EA made standard in all of their games a few years ago. If anything I believe Activision would be one of the last companies to institute an anti-used games system.Â
Most people buy COD primarely because of the online multiplayer. A online pass for multiplayer will solve that issue. A complete block would just hurt them more.[QUOTE="BuldozerX"]That doesnt make any sense. Some developers have been crying in the media about this like a block thing would be some gift from heaven. Why dont block it themself?c_rake
Probably because they don't want to be the ones to pull the trigger on that either. They talk big, but eveyone's too afraid of the potential backlash.
But also, like i said, they want people to buy the game used so they might pay for either online multiplayer passes, DLC or to unlock single player contant that new copies gets for free. A block would just turn gamers off from buying the game in the first place. Also, Gamestop would probably ignore the game.[QUOTE="BuldozerX"][QUOTE="BuldozerX"]
Anyway, what stops the publishers from blocking anything on the Wii U with actiavtion codes?
News flash... this is already on this gen http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-27-kingdoms-of-amalur-online-pass-hides-7-single-player-questsDid you just quote yourself? And then proceeded to own yourself? WTF!
I did, but is wasnt my point. The point is that publishers are already doing this, and I dont think it will change in any way. Kingoms of Amalur DAY 1 FREE online pass for those who bought the game new got 7 extra single player quests. If the games was used, you had to buy a activation key. Same with the Batman Arkham City game. If you bought it new, you got the catwoman DLC story line for free. If you bought it new, you had to download it buy paying.News flash... this is already on this gen http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-27-kingdoms-of-amalur-online-pass-hides-7-single-player-questsAnyway, what stops the publishers from blocking anything on the Wii U with actiavtion codes?
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Anyway, what stops the publishers from blocking anything on the Wii U with actiavtion codes?
That's stupid. You know exactly what Activision will do with the COD series now (even though it won't effect me because I won't be buying any).
Venom_Raptor
the statement could just mean that things will be the same way sa they are now.
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