[QUOTE="Burned_Soul"]

But quran couldnt have been written by a man becasue of the information it contains, that's what we are talking.:|

Those observations are too true to be "mere" observations of a 7th century human being.

So just like the video said, the atheists will have no response.:)

BumFluff122

The Greeks came up with many of the ideas people always say the Quran predicts. Quite a few of those ideas were fairly well accepted among scholars by the time the Quran was written and we know Greek ideas were spread around down through the middle east. If I wrote a religious book now and used scientific ideas from 1000 years ago that are generally accepted now and then in 1400 years people use these ideas I took to say my book is proof of god I bet you would find that rather odd. Just because the Quran has a small amount of scientific bits in small sections isn't going to prove that the book is correct which means it adds no credence toward what it says about the creation of earth. If the Quran said something that explained something complex like quantum physics then I would take it as proof of God. If he's an all powerful God he can tell us more than the earth is round and the moon reflects the sun and doesn't shine on it's ownAce6301

And does it say anything against these hugely complex things that you are mentioning? Surely something should have gone wrong?

http://listverse.com/science/10-debunked-scientific-beliefs-of-the-past/

Anyone who wants to unbiasedly see can see how amazing the knowlegde of quran is considering it's non-existent errors. If you just dont want the possibility of God to enter your mind than I cant help it.

The quran is unlike any other evidence than any other religion can give you.

[QUOTE="Burned_Soul"]

[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]The Quran is made by man though... And "God" is a concept made by man. And it wasn't a prediction so as much as an observation. WhiteSnake5000

Those observations are too true to be "mere" observations of a 7th century human being.

So just like the video said, the atheists will have no response.:)

Islam claims to be the last and final message of God and still with 15 centuries gone by, it holds true as it is still the youngest major religion.

And well I see you still have no answer to the evidence in quran..

Chessmaster what are you onto? You think I am some previously banned user with a new account or what? Is this really what you have to divert the topic on hand now?

Well fine just go ahead report it and let the mods deal with it!!!

[QUOTE="Burned_Soul"]

[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]Like what? WhiteSnake5000

Anyways firstly it says that the universe and earth were never seperated, really?

Ok now onto what I said. It says that someone mentioned 2500 years ago that the moon reflected light from the sun, ok that someone got one "prediction" right. Then it says that someone discovered 2500 years ago that the earth is spherical. Again big deal? Then it says that the greeks knew abow about the rotation of the sun and moon ok. Then it says 2 guys wrote about the water cycle 2000 years ago hmm ok.

Now logic begs a simple question, how could quran have borrowed "only" the correct ideas of it's time and that also from so many different cultures and people??

Those observations are too true to be "mere" observations of a 7th century human being.

So just like the video said, the atheists will have no response.:)

[QUOTE="Burned_Soul"]I dont get what you are asking?zakkro

You didnt even see that video and came about arguing?:?

[QUOTE="Burned_Soul"]

[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh7_eUk0RIU Probably not this. By the way, I really do feel sorry for that audience... I've never seen such gullible people before. Oh wait... GameSpot right.

WhiteSnake5000

Do I really need to explain this? When you predict something without absolute evidence then obviously luck can end up you being right but it ends up you being wrong as well and all these people whose examples are given got some things totally wrong as well.

Anyways firstly it says that the universe and earth were never seperated, really?

Ok now onto what I said. It says that someone mentioned 2500 years ago that the moon reflected light from the sun, ok that someone got one "prediction" right. Then it says that someone discovered 2500 years ago that the earth is spherical. Again big deal? Then it says that the greeks knew abow about the rotation of the sun and moon ok. Then it says 2 guys wrote about the water cycle 2000 years ago hmm ok.

Now logic begs a simple question, how could quran have borrowed "only" the correct ideas of it's time and that also from so many different cultures and people??

[QUOTE="Burned_Soul"]Got any link?

But it doesnt matter, it's "me" bringing this point, I could have just copy pasted quranic verses but am too lazy for such a thing.:P

I dont see how you can counter what he is saying?

foxhound_fox

Ah so you guys have to push me out of my laziness?:cry:

Ok well I'll do it soon.

[QUOTE="Burned_Soul"]That a man 1400 years ago could have known or predicted all that without getting anything wrong. It's obviously impossible for him to "know" 1400 years ago so one could only predict and just like all the other great thinkers and scientists of the old times, he would get some things wrong had it all been his thinking.zakkro

[QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="Burned_Soul"]Nop not if it's a valid refute, go on we'll see.

WhiteSnake5000

Do I really need to explain this? When you predict something without absolute evidence then obviously luck can end up you being right but it ends up you being wrong as well and all these people whose examples are given got some things totally wrong as well.