[QUOTE="Burned_Soul"]Science sometimes make very far-fetched assumptionsRocky32189

Common descent is a big assumption, just becasue the DNA is similar, whoz to say that a living thing no matter what can ONLY have such DNA?

I can give loads of more examples...

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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

It's just something I reached when observing such people.

Anyone who argues from the position of "a God did it" is in no position to criticise science. You cannot criticise widely accepted theories and hypothesise when your idea of the next best answer is a omnipotent and omnipresent bearded man sat on a cloud somewhere made it happen. Then present a bronze age book written by people who thought the world was flat and a window in the sky lets the rain in as evidence.

If someone had suitable research and evidence to back up their criticism then like all things in science what is accepted will be changed in time, but religious texts are not evidence and neither is "an invisible man in the sky did it".

chessmaster1989

Your ignorance is astounding on the religious text part, quran doesnt say that earth is falt, it actually describes it the way it is and it doesnt say anything about that rain part. It's a perfect book and one of the signs of God. Oh and btw you are right somewhat, quran was prolly written by those who thought the world is flat but it doesnt say that cuz the book was dictated by God.;)

It's not "perfect." People have just taken vague verses and interpreted them to fit with modern science. I always find it hilarious when people try that ;).

It very clearly tells you that the universe is expanding, earth is like a sphere. Sun, moon and all bodies are in an orbit. Mountains are not stationary, they only appear to be but they are not.

Keep in mind I was speaking generally and wasn't directly referring to the OP with that comment. That said you didn't exactly show science the most respect in your OP, you seemed almost mocking what you saw in the documentry, then went on to sum people who don't believe in your God as believing this thing you just set up as being silly in your eyes.

Granted I don't know what documentary you saw, but I'm pretty certain if scientifically correct; whatever you saw is far less ridicules than what you believe. Science is a self correcting system that seeks out knowledge, not a unquestionable dogma that remains the same after 2000 years of humanity learning new things.

That said religion and science are not compatible, science does just fine without God. Theists only use the not mutally exclusive argument as a form of self preservation at a time of reason, they hope to turn science into God's means despite it contradicting what is in the Bible in a effort to find a place in this scientific world. If God is in science it only exists in the patches of unknowns, which are getting smaller every day.

AnnoyedDragon

And bible //=// all religion.:|

First off I didn't specify I was referring to the Koran, secondly the way you speak puts me off talking to you. A perfect book, one of the signs of God? If you're the type that believes a religious book is evidence of God I don't want to talk to you, it's late on my end and that type of person will talk nonsense all night. You and every other religion with a religious text thinks they have proof of their particular brand of deity, I'm not wasting time on one of those many.

AnnoyedDragon

:lol:

So that's your response? If a book from 1400 years ago is telling me very clearly that the universe is expanding, earth is like a sphere. Sun, moon and all bodies are in an orbit. Mountains are not stationary, they only appear to be but they are not. Are you really telling me that it's something you can easily ignore?

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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

I've often wondered how some people can reject countless lifetimes of scientific progression because it sounds too unlikely to them, but then turn to a sky daddy poofing everything into existence as their favoured alternative.

AnnoyedDragon

It's just something I reached when observing such people.

Anyone who argues from the position of "a God did it" is in no position to criticise science. You cannot criticise widely accepted theories and hypothesise when your idea of the next best answer is a omnipotent and omnipresent bearded man sat on a cloud somewhere made it happen. Then present a bronze age book written by people who thought the world was flat and a window in the sky lets the rain in as evidence.

If someone had suitable research and evidence to back up their criticism then like all things in science what is accepted will be changed in time, but religious texts are not evidence and neither is "an invisible man in the sky did it".

Your ignorance is astounding on the religious text part, quran doesnt say that earth is falt, it actually describes it the way it is and it doesnt say anything about that rain part. It's a perfect book and one of the signs of God. Oh and btw you are right somewhat, quran was prolly written by those who thought the world is flat but it doesnt say that cuz the book was dictated by God.;)

I've often wondered how some people can reject countless lifetimes of scientific progression because it sounds too unlikely to them, but then turn to a sky daddy poofing everything into existence as their favoured alternative.

AnnoyedDragon

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[QUOTE="zakkro"] You don't really have to be insane to believe in something so much that you start to believe it's completely true.mfacek

This guy believes that he is the second coming of Christ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEFNBqarSMQ

He has been called a cult leader, recieved death threats, ridiculed, and persecuted. Does that mean he IS the second coming of Christ?

Nobody said that people cant claim to be a prophet or somethin knowing fully that they arent.

To people like jesus and muhammad, their whole lives are totally against the notion of they being some evil being bent of getting attention and lying to humanity.

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

No, it's one of the biggest testaments to their belief in God ;).

zakkro

Infact a belief in their lie, sorry but no sane person can have such dellusions...

[QUOTE="Burned_Soul"]

The prophets and the suffering they bore is one of the biggest signs of God...

chessmaster1989

No, it's one of the biggest testaments to their belief in God ;).

Infact a belief in their lie, sorry but no sane person can have such dellusions...

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[QUOTE="zakkro"] Why do that when he can just say "Hey gaiz, it's me! I created you!"zakkro

[QUOTE="Burned_Soul"]

The prophets and the suffering they bore is one of the biggest signs of God...

zakkro