How was it possible that the Dreamcast failed within a year ?

1. better product came out (ps2)
What console is better than the PS3? some consoles might have more games for the moment but in terms of consoles. PS3 is CLEARLY the best.

2. Lost alot of hype
PS3 has not tried to hype the system.. whens the last time you saw a PS3 commercial... if they were really feeling like they were failing, wouldnt they push it, dont you think theyd be throwin commercials left rite n center?

3. Failer to meet expectations or even exceed them
In America, yes, but that is one country. What about Canada, Japan, Australia?

Thats pretty much what is happening with the ps3 right now I dont see it failing in a year but I see it not meeting anyone expectations it was hyped to do.
Touche, but hype is something created by gamers with too much time on their hands, it has nothing to do with the company

cyprus646

Using your own topic, it is failing. It has not been adopted by a significant portion of the gaming market, and has not won the mindshare of it's target audience.

So maybe saying it "failED" is a stretch, but it is "failING". I'm sure it has "failed" to meet Sony's expectations and those of their corporate partners.

TBoogy

The PS3 isn't a good system, at all. Your opinionIt has no games it has games, It has games, what do you think gamers play all day? Mp3s? OR are you insinuating that the system has no games worth playing? - and the future looks very bleak (all its games are getting delayed. All its games? Wow what are the odds? Perhaps not all its games are getting pushed back, just the ones you read about who want to ensure the best gaming quality? Just because a game isnt hyped does not make it terrible. What kinda ultra fanboy would believe that. That $840 won't be dropping down for years Ummm... its already dropped by $200 when last quoted :\ by Christmas 2008 it's still probably going to be $400, still too expensive. You already said you can afford it, so it obviously isnt too expensive. And with the winter lineup there will be games to play... isnt that your only two plausible arguments defeated?

The PS3 has failed because it has not met ANY of its expectations. The PS1 and PS2 both surpassed 100 million, and the PS3 will be lucky to surpass 25 million. Blah that is all speculation. How do you know Sony doesnt want to keep the PS3 a low profile for the moment so as not to destroy potential PS2 buyers? Its a balancing act. if you have a system that sold 100 mil. unless you enjoy throwing money away (MS) then it is in your best interest (and consumers) to keep those 100 mil. happy and not feeling outdated. I smile when PS gamers get angry because there are not any big marketing stunts for the PS3s and their games at the moment. Sony is doing almost as well as the 360 was at this time AND IS COASTING. No commercials on 24/7, no deals with mountain dew, no Games For Windows, none of that. When Sony feels the PS2 has had its time in the sun, they will push the PS3 like they pushed the Ps2 and its a wrap.AHUGECAT

You don't understand economics very well. Just people you're getting a great value on a product it doesn't mean people are going to be all over it. Most consumers are not willing to buy the ps3 at its current price even if it cost significantly less than its manufacturing cost. The market value for the ps3 is more like $400 as that is the amount most consumers would pay to buy the system. Market value and value of the ps3 is 2 different things.

You dont understand economics very well if you assume that something with new technology such as the PS3 will throw itself out of the ring because of one shakey (but still respectable) year. The technology on the PS3 will be innovative for years to come so they have years to come to get more games (although they have some great ones already)

Also, Im done talking to you. At least the other posters are making sense, you clearly dont know what you are talking about. I tried to ignore your last posts but you keep posting the same irrelevant, not-well-thought-out, already-been-debunked ideas and Im tired of saying the same thing over and over

Sony made more than a few mistakes, but I remain convinced that there one HUGE mistake was sticking a Blu-Ray player into every friggin' PS3 out there, and especially when the vast majority of games aren't even taking advantage of the extra space. Blu-Ray was their big mistake, and arrogant public statements have also not served them well. The current games are already starting to implement it (BR that is) and it is having an effect on games on multi platforms (UT 3 maps anyone? Or I can also bring up what the producer said about it too) You cant expect the dev teams to be able to implement full usage of BR off the bat, they have enough trouble gettin lag issues resolved (or is that just EA?) The jittery start is almost over and then I cant see why more and more BR storage wont be used for better and better graphics and maps and extra tidbits and what have you

Blu-Ray seems like it'll ultimately win, but that still won't be fully decided for a few years, so customers aren't even close to wanting to shell out much money for either BR or HD-DVD. That's the type of thing you add like a DVD drive with the PS2; something that has no real competition and that people can get immediate use out of. DVD was an enormous upgrade over VHS, so it picked up in popularity, but the general public (based on sales) still believes DVD is more than good enough and that HD isn't necessary yet (another reason for the Wii's huge popularity).

Sony should've waited on Blu-Ray for the PS4, and they'd be in a much better position right now. They failed miserably in thinking that Blu-Ray would do for the PS3 what DVD did for the PS2.
Sony is thinking about the future while at the moment the consumer is thinking about the present. Sony choses not to make a system every 4 years or however long the Xbox lasted, they build for the future.

Zeliard9

As you asked, why did the PS3 fail? Because it's $500 and no one wants to buy a $500 console with hardly any outstanding games. We all got Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Gran Turismo and GTA last generation for under $300, so why not this gen?AHUGECAT

I asked why do you think it is a failure... i cant pass judgement on a console after less than a year if it has an expected shelf life of +7 years. The reason the system costs so much is because Sony decided to go ahead of the curve and create better hardware. Everyone KNOWS Sony PS3 is a better system.The 60 GB system costs $840 dolars to create and then you ask why does its costs soo much?

FFS Every console in history loses money on the console. Sony is the only one making a profit.

MS spent how much to repair consoles?

Nevermind. DON'T reply to this thread, just let it die. You guys are all morons. No one posted any facts.. no information supporting anything. Just opinions. Did you even read the thread? Again.. not even worth it.

Wil4hire

Duh... because there are no facts, just speculation and opinated persons. C'est la vie

[QUOTE="CameosisJ"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="CameosisJ"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]The PS3 failed because of its price.AHUGECAT

$500 is still outrageously high.

not for a blu ray player/gaming console... and dont give me that 'forcing the gamer to buy it' bs, coz w/o the BR drive, the games wouldnt have as much storage space

Too bad no one cares about Blu-ray... the average joe doesn't give a heck about it, and neither do developers considering only a few games (FFXIII and MGS4?) will use the Blu-ray properly but these series have a history of multiple discs anyways, so is it worth $200 so you don't have to switch discs?

[QUOTE="CameosisJ"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]The PS3 failed because of its price.AHUGECAT

$500 is still outrageously high.

not for a blu ray player/gaming console... and dont give me that 'forcing the gamer to buy it' bs, coz w/o the BR drive, the games wouldnt have as much storage space. The poster quoted before said that the production costs are more than the sales prices... so how is it outrageous to sell the game at $500? Perhaps they shouldnt charge any money at all right? Oh wait... this isnt Russia in 1984. We arent communist.. people want to eventually make a profit :\

The PS3 failed because of its price.AHUGECAT

Software quality and sales is very poor.

So is your english, lol. But seriously, software quality is not poor, software ports have been lackluster @ times and overdramaticzed (sp?)

Ps3's manufacturing cost exceeds the ps3's market value.

This has happened for every system ever made... so no

Demand for next gen format is minimal.
So 360 is a failure too?

Substitution goods (xbox 360, and wii) are a better choice for the gaming console.
The first week the Ps2 came out, the Dreamcast had better games and a bigger selection... was the ps2 a failure to begin with too?Jhung207

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I personally want the ps3 to fail for a number of reasons.

First, I don't like the way sony is using gamers as a vehicle for their over-priced in house movie format, with nobenfits to gaming.
Without bluray format the games wouldnt have as high of a storage space, so it is REQUIRED in order for PS3 to function
Second, I don't want a inferior game machine to be the lead platform for multi-plats.All non-sony consolegamers had to suffer last gen with the ps2, and I don't want that this gen.
Everyone will tell you PS3 is the best game machine, just needs more games (is currently getting them).. so are you saying do away with the other consoles?
Third, I don't want console makers to think it's OK to launch a console at a completely ridiculiou pricepoint
This is the same as #1... it has to be that price because Blu Ray is waaaaaaaaaay ahead of the curve atm
Fourth, sony has lost sight and have become complacent and they need to humbled.

bluebrad1974