[QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Government is government. Why are you making a distinction? Anyway if the feds had wanted to they could have changed voting much earlier. Like I said.....federal law supersedes state. Or didn't you understand that the first time? By allowing it...the feds were complicit.LJS9502_basicThe very start of the thread is the federal government, the state governments do not have countrol of the entire country, it's the federal government causing the issues of today not that states. Also all you did was prove my point, they interfered less because that's what was expected from them in exchange for freedom. That's like saying since all people in the world are human, we should get involved in all foreign affairs and if we allow corruption to go on we are complicit.You seem to be ignoring that the feds could have brought the states in line much earlier. \I don't see how you aren't getting it, yes they could have, but they didn't since the whole point is the government to have less control. That's what the countries purpose was.
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[QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]One...states have a government. Two...federal law can and does supersede state laws.LJS9502_basicStates do have a government but that's clearly not the government that I am talking about or that "technically" runs the country. If the federal government did not intervene with what states did then it's not "denied". If we had that government from around the 40iesish till the 90's without the womens rights and discrimination it would have been pretty much the definition of freedom and less government control.Government is government. Why are you making a distinction? Anyway if the feds had wanted to they could have changed voting much earlier. Like I said.....federal law supersedes state. Or didn't you understand that the first time? By allowing it...the feds were complicit. The very start of the thread is the federal government, the state governments do not have countrol of the entire country, it's the federal government causing the issues of today not that states. Also all you did was prove my point, they interfered less because that's what was expected from them in exchange for freedom. That's like saying since all people in the world are human, we should get involved in all foreign affairs and if we allow corruption to go on we are complicit.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="heeweesRus"] Its spelled "your" where I liveheeweesRusNo it's not. I live on the isle of Dumbfvckistan, ya pretentious tw@t. And there goes the thread...
[QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So you admit you were trolling and not interested in freedom.LJS9502_basicWhat does states having different rules have to do with government control? States? Who mentioned states? You just said it was irrelevant if over half the population was denied freedom. How is it "denied" freedom if the Government did not deny it but the states did? Where is the relation?
When? Minorities and women didn't even have the right to vote back in the day. Is that the balanced freedom you of which you speak? Women is irrelevant, Black people could vote back in the day, especially post prhibition which is the period I talked about, and rules for women depended on the state.[QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"] What does that have to do with the fact we used to have balanced freedom and now we are heading in the opposite direction? Should we not revamp?jimkabrhel
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Even if black people had the right to vote, they were still completely marginalized in much of the US, especially in the South.
Jim Crow didn't end until the 60s.
Which again is irrelevant because it was has nothing to do with government control, which for better or worse, did not intervene during that time.Yeah, like the fact they can suspect you and go through you and relative or friend etc. using tactics that also involve them based on nothing really there.I agree that the police force has become increasingly violent. There are countless stories of people being beaten and even killed by police officers all because the police were suspicious of something. The actual court system we have now seems to do an ok job of determining whether someone broke the law or not (although i disagree with the punishments for several of these, incluidng selling and posessing drugs).
The part that needs to be fixed is what happens before people are brought in front of a judge.
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Do you even know what "probable cause" means?PannicAtackDiscretion by police.
[QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm not defending anything. But freedom has to come from somewhere. It doesn't exist on it's own.Ace6301What does that have to do with the fact we used to have balanced freedom and now we are heading in the opposite direction? Should we not revamp? Hate to break it to you but the 90s were basically the most free period in the US and beyond stupid sh*t like the patriot act and TSA there's been changes toward the positive like gay marriage being made legal and a general consensus that drugs should be less restricted. You want the most free period of human history? You're living in it. It's also the least violent and healthiest. You just said ti was the 90's and now I am living in it? Also those things above could be positive or negative.
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