Bad grammer on my part. Shouldn't blow up a building. What happens to a religious person is they put their Emotions before God. Its like a train really God is the conductor, then the bible Gods word to live by in trolly cars of knowledge, and then last is your emotional importance. Now, God comes before his own bible of his word, following what he says comes before our emotions. For example. If you want to hit someone because they are an athiest. Well, the bible teaches us not to strike our enemies. But are emotions make us upset and we want to hit them. But nothing is solved, and no love is expressed. By hitting someone and reacting with emotion went before Gods law and violence right. So emotion is last. Another example. Someone killed your dog outright. So you at first wanted to kill them. Your emotion response. But Just because they commited a wrongful act does not open the door for you to sin. Two wrongs don't make a right. This is also why I don't except the death penalty. Two wrongs don't make a right. Killing a murder didn't justify the first murder. Its only healed emotional revenge. And revenge is only Gods tool not ours. As Jesus said, "Let he without sin cast the first stone."caseypayne69
Great post. I thought your train analogy was good. Damn, we need to sticky this thread or at least get a political/religious debates section going so long debates like this can go on without being locked at "x" number of pages (unfortunately, we have to be getting close to the max...this thread is huge).
[QUOTE="Chris72b9"][QUOTE="bastards12345"][QUOTE="Dasc00"][QUOTE="bastards12345"][QUOTE="Dasc00"]]if u are an athiest you assume that matter can make it's self... my point is you are assuming either way.....and saying "we simple dont have the answers" is not the point.... no matter what, you have faith.... either that there is a God, or that there is not.... b/c we will never know for sure...bastards12345
except we have facts You have theories. :| Example? Evolution obviously would be a good example. It's a feasible theory, but with most of the athiests here saying "[physically] show me that God exists" shouldn't they also be asking "physically show me evolution has occured." Ancient artifacts (i.e. fossils) are once again, feasible, but with the atheistic logic/reasoning here ("Show me God exists") shouldn't you have to physically show animals evolving and adapting (which is obviously not possible) for them to believe evolution occured? As you said, you couldn't sit there and see an animal evolving, but I guess I should quote a post I made about two hours ago...
[QUOTE="caseypayne69"] Its funny how you attack him for things he hasn't seen, then spout off on evolution. Something else mankind hasn't seen. Its extreamly funny.bastards12345
Is that so? Observed instances of speciation. Homo sapiens couldn't consume milk until cows were raised. The link between apes and man revealed. Ken Miller discusses the discovery of the whale transitions. Ken Miller discusses the discovery of blood transitions. These can be more critically researched in documents on google, but I figured you'd prefer to watch a video than to read long articles. I looked through all of the links, but the last one. I wanted to comment on the Ken Miller adressing the whale transitions. He was talking about the "swimming whale that walks." I was wondering though, if the whale did infact evolve from a land mammal, to one that lives in the ocean, and then taking "survival of the fittest" into account, how would the whale survive through it's intermediate stages? The stages (however many hundreds-of-thousands/millions of years it spent in the process of evolving) where it could walk and swim must have been a difficult transition. Now, don't you think that would take a nearly perfect creature to survive through such a transition? The only problem would be, if it was nearly perfect, why did it continue to evolve? The biggest question here (to sum this up) would be that in such a harsh transition, how could it survive?
Well, you need to be more specific on what you need to know. For a start, do some research on Wankel, or Rotary Engines. I'll tell you: -RX-8's are not cheap -Their prices do not depreciate as quick as others in it's class (if your looking for a used one) -Service on them will generally be a tad bit more expensive (due to Rotary engine)
[QUOTE="killtactics"]b/c "lack of belivie" is for ppl with weak minds that dont want to belivie in God, but dont want to consider how reality and space can exsist without a supernatural....Chris72b9
Or it could be for people who admit to not having all the answers and do not automatically assume a belief to be true simply because someone says it is.
if u are an athiest you assume that matter can make it's self... my point is you are assuming either way.....and saying "we simple dont have the answers" is not the point.... no matter what, you have faith.... either that there is a God, or that there is not.... b/c we will never know for sure... except we have facts You have theories. :| Example? Evolution obviously would be a good example. It's a feasible theory, but with most of the athiests here saying "[physically] show me that God exists" shouldn't they also be asking "physically show me evolution has occured." Ancient artifacts (i.e. fossils) are once again, feasible, but with the atheistic logic/reasoning here ("Show me God exists") shouldn't you have to physically show animals evolving and adapting (which is obviously not possible) for them to believe evolution occured?
[QUOTE="killtactics"]b/c "lack of belivie" is for ppl with weak minds that dont want to belivie in God, but dont want to consider how reality and space can exsist without a supernatural....cory4513
Or it could be for people who admit to not having all the answers and do not automatically assume a belief to be true simply because someone says it is.
if u are an athiest you assume that matter can make it's self... my point is you are assuming either way.....and saying "we simple dont have the answers" is not the point.... no matter what, you have faith.... either that there is a God, or that there is not.... b/c we will never know for sure... except we have facts You have theories. :|
I believe it ends on 12/21/2012, rather than the 12th. Here's my theory on this though: Bacab: Hey, we've been making these calenders for a while now, I'm getting a little bored... Hunapu: Yeah, that's not a bad idea. I was thinking the same thing. Bacab: Ya know, leave the rest of the calender for the kids to do. I mean, 2012 is a long time from now. Hunapu: Yeah, I don't think anyone will have a problem with that...will they? Bacab: No, they shouldn't...
Absolute nonesense. The universe is complex, human beings are complex, just because it is complex doesn't mean we have to shun it and turn to idiotic myths such as God. How stupid are you to suggest that God can do things different when you have absolutely no experience of him doing so? Also, human bodies aren't "designed", they are like the way they are through millions of years of evolution, the same goes to every animal - they didn't just appear out of nowhere, how ridiculous would that be? It makes me laugh that you actually think that life has a purpose, i've got news for you, it hasn't... we are here because we are, we evolved and learnt to adapt to our surroundings, the light, the heat, the food we eat and the drink we drink... we adapted to live with it and die without it. Your argument concludes that the human body is so complex so there has to be a creator, it's complete rubbish... life is complicated compared to what? You have nothing to judge it against, you have not experienced another life, so the drivel you speak is completely flawed. Let me tell you that it did happen by accident, nobody controlled it or forced it to happen, you think that just because humans are alive today that God must have been behind it... Don't automatically resolve your thoughts to mythology, stop thinking like a 5 year old. We are here for no reason, life has no reason... we grew from the earth like parasites. Deal with it.Marx_Brother
[QUOTE="Nisstyre_56"]Wrong, Wrong, Wrong Lack of God is not any lack of anything, since he doesn't exist. I find it funny how atheists always complain about Religious people "shoving their beliefs" down their throats. With the two idiotic posts above me, you can see just how hypocritical atheists can be. Really, it is funny.
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