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#1 Citan_Uzuki
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[QUOTE="Cubs360"]First ever dev demonstation given to the public, and they use the 360 version to demonstrate what there doing with the game. Sony Fanboys said this game was exclusive and here we are with the first ever demonstration given and its running on the Xbox360, freakin' hilarious!!

http://www.gametrailers.com

oh, and its pretty sweet by the way!!

LabWarrior1

Same story with Assasins Creed, so far we have seen it only on 360



not true don't take the TC word for it watch the interview they will state that the ps3 was the lead platform but that they started development opn the 360 version  around the same time and that at e3 they had the same demo build they showed for ps3 running on the 360 but did not show it.
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[QUOTE="Trashface"]This post will probably bring alot of tears and whining from Sony fanboys, but the following is the way it is. Things are looking bad for PS3 owners. Why? I'll tell ya why. I was thinking about purchasing a PS3. I was under the false impression that it would be the best of the best. After it arrived and I did research, as time went on, I found that the graphics were generally equal to the 360 and the PS3 had no stand-out launch games(don't try to come in with the whole"but the 360 launch titles were worse" because its totally irrelevant). Basically, the PS3 was and is too expensive and has a very weak library. The only thing it has going for it is Blu Ray and a larger HD which aren't large enough factors. The only reason people would give for buying it is that the PS3 would come out with stellar games in the future. The first 2 (supposed to be) stellar games? VF5 and Motorstorm. You know what happened there. If I were a Sony fan, I would be disturbed that these huge titles were let downs. It could be an indication of future disappointment. No one should take a gamble and buy a system for what games WILL come in the future. Looks like that gamble may not be paying off. Maybe Metal gear, Final Fantasy, and god of war won't be restrained by a developer-unfriendly design. If I'd purchased a PS3, I'd be worried. Blackbond


The rest I'm skeptical about but that I agree with.



nobody should but evrybody does I mean how many people bought a 360 because they knew halo 3 was coming either that or they plan on playing nothing but gears of war  for the next 4 years(I know there are more good games than that on 360 right now just using that example to simplify the argument I'm making)
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#3 Citan_Uzuki
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wow this board really has become a sony hate board I reply to a negative sony thread with a logical argument that doesn't bash the other 2 consoles and the thread dies. Dunno if that is a testament to my sw experience or to how low this board has sunk. 
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First ever dev demonstation given to the public, and they use the 360 version to demonstrate what there doing with the game. Sony Fanboys said this game was exclusive and here we are with the first ever demonstration given and its running on the Xbox360, freakin' hilarious!!

http://www.gametrailers.com

oh, and its pretty sweet by the way!!

Cubs360


I think you misinterpreted what they said  the first public demo was given on the ps3 but they later stated that behind the scenes they had the demo running on the 360. esentially what they are saying is they used the ps3 to show the game but had  a similar build able to run on 360 that they didn't show to the public. they revealed this recently to show that both versions were getting similar dev time now that it was officially announced for both they didn't want people to feel one version was a lazy port of the other.
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anyone else get the feeling the problem with icon is hiphop artists thinking they know videogame coming in trying to push ideas on developers I mean they obviously had some imput and with defjam being there I get the feeling they felt the could push the music aspect a bit more now that the series was established for some better cross promotion. I personall love hip-hop but I always see method man on tv saying what a hardcore gamer he is. Somehow though its hard hard to consider him one when you only see him play madden ofr a popular FPS game like halo. Considering he considers himself hardcore what about the artist who don't play videogames as much what if they had imput.

PS. the minute I see method man admittedly playing a game like FF, oblivion, any old school rpg or something like katamari I will rescind my statement about him not being hardcore.
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#6 Citan_Uzuki
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="Call_me_Daddy"] if you are so ignorant to judge a console by its first 3 months then i envy your ignorance and can only dream of the bliss you preside in.FatalDomain

If everyone would read the post carefully, what I was saying is that PS3 buyers could only give one reason for buying it, how great the future games are. Every one of the great games have dissapointed. If I were a PS3 owner, this trend would worry me. That is plenty logical and not narrow minded. What I just typed wasn't even judging the system. As I predicted, the whining and tears have ensued even though eveything I typed made perfect sense and was totally civil.

Do you really think it's a new Idea to strike a system down when it's new?

The PS2 was lashed at horribly, and that flopped. :roll: Heck, all system's, including my 360, were bashed when they come out. Still, the major players are lining up, and all the system's offer something unique for gamers.

This isn't about dissing or judging a system. I was saying the big titles so far have gotten lackluster reviews and it could indicate a trend of poor games in the future and that this would worry me if I owned the system. Who knows, maybe the PS3 will drop it's price and release super-awesome games that will take over the world. I would be worried. We'll see.

Sony has always had a propensity for having a mediocre to okay launch lineup, then approximately a Year Later, having the games people want.

What great PS2 games were out in this part of the PS2's life rocked? How about the PSOne? See what I mean.

Propaganda from other companies are just spreading like wildfire in online communities, but the thing is, like always, they will eventually fall flat.

In the meantime though, Will it sell a few more 360's? That's the nature of the game.



The examples you use is the reason the PS3 is in the situation it is today:

- When the PS1 launched it was in direct competition with the SNES and the Saturn. The Saturn was priced too high and excluded itself and the SNES was a aging machine. This gave Sony a nice window of opportunity to get its software up to speed and dominate the market.

-During the PS2 launch, the only competition it had at the time was the Dreamcast, a great lil system but didnt have the majority of industry support. This was another opoortunity for Sony to get things going to dominate the market.

I would like to say this is wrong the DC had great developer support(capcom for instance made a ton of games for DC powerstone 1&2, resident evil code veronica, sf3 third strike) not to mention its highest scoring game soul calibur was third party. I will admit it missed Ea who is big developer with the casual crowd but overall its 3rd parrty support was good and first party support was very strong. Financial reasons pushed sega out they could no longer compete against sony's marketing muscle and key mis steps in previous gens made it very difficult for them to develop a strategy to win the casual gamer because they did not have the money simply put. I think when they heard MS was entering the race it was the straw that broke the camels back the just could not see themselves competing in a 4 horse race with the weakest hardware and decided to become and 3rd party developer to better use it resources instead of losing moeny yet again like they did after the saturn and 32x fiascos.


-Now we have the PS3, a good gaming system but not a spectacular system. It launched in the face of two worthy opponents, one with a year catalog of games, and the other with a innovative, yet budget friendly console. This time Sony doesnt have the luxury of time to sit around, work things out and eventually provide the experience its consumers hoped for. Their business model of being fashionably late to the party that once brough success and profit is now biting them in the ass because they now realize the industry is not willing to wait on them to get up to speed.

Game On...

Well the industry is willing to wait by the amount of developer support sony has. fanboys in a forum do not equate the industry. Not calling you a fanboy but most of the criticism has come from fanboys. Sure there have been a few devs irked at sony but most of them are still developing for them heck team ninja who nabandoned the ps2 are developing sigma for ps3. The reason sony are not blazing out of the gate is more of nintendo and MS being better prepared this gen I still expect sony to finish up strong they always do...look at the ps2. they may not win but they will certainly make it interesting 3-4 years down the line

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This post will probably bring alot of tears and whining from Sony fanboys, but the following is the way it is. Things are looking bad for PS3 owners. Why? I'll tell ya why. I was thinking about purchasing a PS3. I was under the false impression that it would be the best of the best. After it arrived and I did research, as time went on, I found that the graphics were generally equal to the 360 and the PS3 had no stand-out launch games(don't try to come in with the whole"but the 360 launch titles were worse" because its totally irrelevant). Basically, the PS3 was and is too expensive and has a very weak library. The only thing it has going for it is Blu Ray and a larger HD which aren't large enough factors. The only reason people would give for buying it is that the PS3 would come out with stellar games in the future. The first 2 (supposed to be) stellar games? VF5 and Motorstorm. You know what happened there. If I were a Sony fan, I would be disturbed that these huge titles were let downs. It could be an indication of future disappointment. No one should take a gamble and buy a system for what games WILL come in the future. Looks like that gamble may not be paying off. Maybe Metal gear, Final Fantasy, and god of war won't be restrained by a developer-unfriendly design. If I'd purchased a PS3, I'd be worried. Trashface


just because you say the argument about the 360 launch is irrelevant doesn'rt mean it is each console generation last 5-6 yerars or 4 in xbox case. People buy a system not just for its current library but for its potential future ps3 does have the most worlwide developer support if you do your research you will find this to be true. right now its 4 months after launch if you don't feel like buying one right now thats fine you don't have to but somehow saying the console is in trouble when it is selling as well as the 360 did after its launch actually better because of a better supply.  If someone did buy it already they obviously felt that it would be worth it, nobody buys anything mindlessly even the most brainwashed fanboy will wait until there is at least one game he wants to play before buying the console even if it is a game that got bad reviews.

speaking of bad reviews the two games you mentioned actually got great reviews everywhere except GS and even here they got good and great ratings by GS scale. Many fans of VF are extremeley pleased with VF5 and it is the most technical fighting game out there right now. Motorstorm was said to be a great game but just too short on the options which it got severly penalized for doesn't take away the enjoyment people might get when playing these games.

I don't own a ps3 but I plan on buying one before the year is out I don't own a 360 but I have played a few games on it, its a great system but when I buy a system I look at what games I will be buying in the future right now I see myself buying the majority of my games for the sony system I don't have alot of disposible income to buy multiple consoles early in a lifecycle so the first one I buy is generally the one I feel I will play the most ever since the ps1 days  have went with the ps brand and I haven't been disapoointed and I have been through the slow first year so I really don't mind having only a few good games to choose from the fact is there are a few good games to choose from andto be honest the ps3 first year linup is looking very promising especially when you consider when I bought the ps2 ion jan 2001 there wasonly onimusha, tekken tag, and ssx that were really at all decent up until late summer when gt3 and twb got released so in my mind ps3 is off to a great start.

Just to play devil advocate if everybopdy bought system based on what was out the first year the ps2 never would have sold because the DC had an amazing library of games much larger and more varied than the 360. and In turn nobody would have bought the original xbox either cause when it launched both the DC and ps2 had superior linups.
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Deus Ex??

haha guess I should have checked ahead in the thread you already revealed it
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#9 Citan_Uzuki
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I just want to say that this argument was used many times for the original xbox it never happened. squaresoft is a japanese company until the xbox brand starts doing better in japan square is not going to release its big games on it because they won't sell in their home country to the numbers that would justify the developement expenses. squaresoft would go to nintendo before MS and even then I don't see them abandoning sony simply because sony bought like 17% of square sharse after the final fantasy movie flopped not advent children but spirits within(its probably equel to about 8% in squareenix now that theyt merged). Sony doesn't own enough to actually have any control over the company but they still own a signifigant share in the company and its bad business to piss off a shareholder.
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#10 Citan_Uzuki
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first of all is a anti-ps3 site (with horrible presentation the plane drawn in paint firing at a burning ps3 being just one example)  and the author goes on to claim things with no evidence to back it up. in fact he takes the fact stores have been allocated more units and spins it to say they aren't selling their pre-orders with no evidence. The fact that the TC has lowered himself to using this site to bash the ps3 is sad.