Oblivion to me was better than Skyrim, and Oblivion to me was the best RPG of the 7th generation.
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@CloudStrife213 said:
The moment you used that 8/10 argument as a reply to me in a post, then I can say that you are clearly dodging the topic and using it as an argument against me, even though it had nothing to do with what I said.
There is still no rebuttal from you with regards to the metacritic scores of the games decreasing. As I have shown, the Metacritic scores are decreasing.What more variables do you need, all you need is a large population of gaming critics. I do not have access to all these variables, but one can immediately conclude that the results of the Metacritic scores are the results of all these variables. As I have said before, the larger the population, the more accurate the results.
As for me being a lem, no I am not. As you can see that I have even pointed out how Microsoft's exclusives have dropped in quality, and I have stated for a fact that I am never going to buy an Xbox One, and that the PS4 is my console of choice.
But the blindness of cows as evidenced by you has got to be one of the prime reasons I have so much disdain against Sony fanboys.
I dodged nothing. People in here posted scores in the 80 range...which is comparative to 8/10. But my comment stands as it's mentioned in this thread.
It appears critical thinking is NOT your strong suit. I mentioned variables because they should be accounted for before forming an opinion. NOT after...before. A few sites even changing their procedure will skew the results. That is why statistics have a +/-...there is always room for error. Doesn't matter the size of the population there is always a bit % built in for error. Next time don't sleep through stats class.
As I suspected...you cannot form an adult argument without resorting to the name calling. My posts in here had nothing at all to do with Sony's scores. I was making a general comment on variables.....though I doubt you can understand that. You want to stereotype everyone you meet. Bigot.
It's funny how you assume that a decrease in scores in Metacritic can only mean a change in variables,criteria,reviewers, etc. but not a decrease in the quality of the games itself. And you quickly say that it does not mean anything that the review scores have dropped, how can you assume that it's only a change in variables but not a drop in quality of the games? Unfortunately, I'm afraid you are the one who lacks critical thinking skills.
There is always a % built of error, but as I have said, the larger the population the more accurate the results, unfortunately you don't know that because you slept through stats class. Never did I say that there wasn't any room for statistical error, and now you quickly assume that I slept through statistics class. The fact that you can't understand the significance of review scores being collated into a single score with a large sample size of reviewers means a lack of critical thinking skills in your part.
Also, judging from your post count, I think it's better that I end the argument now, lest I'll be bombarded with drivel, I do have better things to do aside from staying in the forums all day.
@LJS9502_basic said:
@CloudStrife213 said:
You have taken Statistics and have a business degree, but can't see how useful Metacritic is when defining a game's quality? How quaint.
Judging from your previous posts, you are a Sony fanboy. Where did I say that 8 or 80 was bad? You are clearly dodging the argument, my argument and the TC's argument was that the review scores of Sony games have been dropping, especially when using Metacritic.
Where did I say that an 8 or 80 was bad? Quit assuming. So an 80 is better than a 90 now? Can't you understand what a decrease in quality means?
The argument is about a decrease in quality not what defines a quality game.
Nice straw man there dude. I didn't mention anything in regard to whether or not Metacritic is useful.
Judging from your previous posts you are a butt hurt lem that can't deal with any criticism. I haven't praised Sony at all. I haven't hated MS at all.....I was disgusted with the company after E3. Whether I buy an X1 or not has ZERO to do with Sony and everything to do with MS. It's their game to win or lose. I don't buy a brand just because it's the brand. I need to see a viable reason.
Where did I say you said anything about 8/80? Do you always talk out of your ass?
And here is where your critical thinking fails you. As I said....STATISTICALLY one has to consider all variables before forming a conclusion. You failed to do that.
The moment you used that 8/10 argument as a reply to me in a post, then I can say that you are clearly dodging the topic and using it as an argument against me, even though it had nothing to do with what I said.
There is still no rebuttal from you with regards to the metacritic scores of the games decreasing. As I have shown, the Metacritic scores are decreasing.What more variables do you need, all you need is a large population of gaming critics. I do not have access to all these variables, but one can immediately conclude that the results of the Metacritic scores are the results of all these variables. As I have said before, the larger the population, the more accurate the results.
As for me being a lem, no I am not. As you can see that I have even pointed out how Microsoft's exclusives have dropped in quality, and I have stated for a fact that I am never going to buy an Xbox One, and that the PS4 is my console of choice.
But the blindness of cows as evidenced by you has got to be one of the prime reasons I have so much disdain against Sony fanboys.
@LJS9502_basic said:
@CloudStrife213 said:
It is true that reviews are only opinions, but it does say a lot about the quality of a game if everybody says the same thing about a game, and everybody gives it about the same score. That is what Metacritic is for, less bias as it is a collation of reviews, and it results in a single score that can help a person decide whether to buy the game or not.
If you have taken statistics, you would know that the bigger the population you survey, the less bias there is, and the more accurate the results.
I know you are a Sony fanboy, and you are trying to rationalize, but the numbers do speak volumes. As I have posted earlier in this thread, using Metacritic scores, both Sony and Microsoft exclusives(consoles) have dropped in quality except for Naughty Dog's game, the Last of Us.
I have taken stats dude don't assume. I have a business degree.....
Sony fanboy? You know nothing. Because I'm disgusted with some of things MS tried to do/did this gen does not a Sony fanboy make. I have not made the leap to this new gen yet.....build a PC instead...will get a Wii U though soon, and a PS4 when it gets game. Jury is out on the X1. They have to have a compelling reason for me to get their console. Last gen most of the games I got for the 360 were multi plats. They need a price drop as well. That is not to say I won't pick it up at some point. If the price is right and they have some games for me....it will sit next to the PS4.
Nonetheless this gen aside....I have all Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, and Sega (my favorite.....proud fanboy of Sega)....consoles. So stop trying to label everyone that disagrees with you. It's childish.
As for reviews.....8(or 80) is good. Period....ridiculous to play otherwise. Also ridiculous to form an opinion this early.
You have taken Statistics and have a business degree, but can't see how useful Metacritic is when defining a game's quality? How quaint.
Judging from your previous posts, you are a Sony fanboy. Even before you disagreed with me, I've always labeled you as such. Where did I say that 8 or 80 was bad? You are clearly dodging the argument, my argument and the TC's argument was that the review scores of Sony games have been dropping, especially when using Metacritic.
Where did I say that an 8 or 80 was bad? Quit assuming. So an 80 is better than a 90 now? Can't you understand what a decrease in quality means?
The argument is about a decrease in quality not what defines a quality game.
@LJS9502_basic said:
@CloudStrife213 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
Since when are scores in the 80 bad? This thread is sad....
Nobody said it was bad, it's just that it is apparent from review scores that the games are not getting as much praise as before. Using review scores as a gauge, then it is true that the games are actually decreasing in quality, especially if you use Metacritic. For example: jumps from a Metacritic score of 90+ to 70+ does denote a huge decrease in quality.
Likewise, if you look at recent releases, there has been a gradual decrease in scores compared to predecessor games, except for Naughty Dog's The Last of Us.
That means nothing...what are the variables? Have review scores changed? Reviewers? Criteria? Really reviews are only opinions and how something is scored is just that. Plus, review sites might overhaul how they score...did not GS just do that? Of course, they won't go in and change the older game reviews to be compatible....so if I score games higher at one point in time it may seem to skew the games as lesser when in reality all I did was make it harder to achieve those scores vis a vis how I want to review. See what I mean?
It is true that reviews are only opinions, but it does say a lot about the quality of a game if everybody says the same thing about a game, and everybody gives it about the same score. That is what Metacritic is for, less bias as it is a collation of reviews, and it results in a single score that can help a person decide whether to buy the game or not.
If you have taken statistics, you would know that the bigger the population you survey, the less bias there is, and the more accurate the results.
I know you are a Sony fanboy, and you are trying to rationalize, but the numbers do speak volumes. As I have posted earlier in this thread, using Metacritic scores, both Sony and Microsoft exclusives(consoles) have dropped in quality except for Naughty Dog's game, the Last of Us.
@LJS9502_basic said:
Since when are scores in the 80 bad? This thread is sad....
Nobody said it was bad, it's just that it is apparent from review scores that the games are not getting as much praise as before. Using review scores as a gauge, then it is true that the games are actually decreasing in quality, especially if you use Metacritic. For example: jumps from a Metacritic score of 90+ to 70+ does denote a huge decrease in quality.
Likewise, if you look at recent releases, there has been a gradual decrease in scores compared to predecessor games, except for Naughty Dog's The Last of Us.
@AdobeArtist said:
@CloudStrife213 said:
You're lucky that the gaming stores in your country offer used games.
In my country, only brand new games are sold, although there is an advantage for us that games only cost about $42 tax included, if you are wondering, I live in Asia.
The stupid thing is, Gamestop killed the supposed "advantage" to used games. Before their monopolization of the gaming retail, lots of independent shops offered anywhere from $15-20 less on used games. This was back in the cartridge days.
But if Gamestop can only offer a $5 discount it really isn't worth it. I'd just as soon pay the extra $5 on new that gives me the complete package (like download codes) and knowing the profit goes to the devs.
I had no idea that they would only offer a $5 discount for used games, if that's the case, then that's bad. Last time I went to America, I actually bought a crappy game, and decided to return/sell it back to GameStop, lo and behold, as far as I can remember, since this was in 2006, the guy at the counter only offered me $10, for a game that had been just been released which cost $60 originally.
@nervmeister said:
The same can be said of Bungie, Epic, etc. Suck it, treedoor.
Yeah, Epic Games has gotten worse due to changes in the studio itself, especially with Cliff Bleszinski leaving. Gears of War 1-3 were good with a 91+ in in Metacritic for all three games, but Judgment was bad, and it only got a 79 on Metacritic.
Bungie on the other hand had nothing to do with Halo 4.
Bungie
Halo 3 - 94 - Halo 3 : ODST - 83 - Halo : Reach - 91
343 Studios
Halo 4 - 87
Epic Games
Gears of War 2 - 93 - Gears of War 3 - 91 - Gears of War: Judgment - 79
Turn 10 Studios
Forza Motorsport 4 - 91 - Forza Horizon - 85(Playground studios in collaboration with Turn 10) - Forza Motorsport 5 - 80
@cfisher2833 said:
@CloudStrife213 said:
Ever heard of Tom Clancy's The Division? It's a an upcoming third-person tactical shooter action role-playing video game.
You obviously never played games like Swat or Rainbow Six Ravenshield. The Division is not remotely close to the sort of game those were.
I've played Rainbow: Six Vegas, Ghost Recon 1, Ghost Recon 2, and SWAT. How can you say that I've never played these kinds of games? In fact, SWAT and Rainbow : Six Vegas are both top on my list of best tactical shooters.
And yes, Rainbow : Six Vegas is a tactical shooter to me, and a lot of other people, including its own developers. Even though you define it as not such, who are you to define what a tactical shooter is?
Also, The Division doesn't have to be remotely close to any of those games, it's not like those games should fully define what a tactical shooter is. Tactical shooters can evolve and change, like any other genre of game.
Tom Clancy's The Division is a tactical shooter, no matter which way you cut it. Even if your standards of what a tactical shooter is let down.
For a better picture of a game's quality, Metacritic is the way, as it collates many review scores in order to come up with a single score. Meaning less bias.
I've made a list of games scores with games from the PS3 to PS4.
Metacritic(score from 2-3 most recent games from each studio)
Quantic Dream
Heavy Rain - 87 - Beyond : Two Souls - 70
Guerilla Games
Killzone 2 - 91 - Killzone 3 - 84 - Killzone : Shadow Fall - 73
Sucker Punch
Infamous - 85 - Infamous 2 - 83 - Infamous: Second Son - 80
Polyphony Digital
Gran Turismo 5 - 84 - Gran Turismo 6 - 81
SCE Santa Monica Studio
God of War 3 - 92 - God of War: Ascension - 80
Naughty Dog
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves - 96 - Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception - 92 - The Last of Us : 95
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