[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="monkeysmoke"] AA realy matters,Put Gears of War 3 side by side with Killzone 3 and you'll notice how rough and jaggy the edges looks in Gears of War 3. For texture Killzone 3 uses higher resolution texture compared to Gears 3. One problem with Gears of War 3 is that it repeats texture compared to Uncharted 2's dynamic texturing. If you've played unchated 2 you'll notice that every enviroment has attention to ditails to its texture. For lighting i'll say gears beats uncharted 2 but i'll still give the best lighting on console to killzone 2 for the fact it handles the highest amount of dynamic light source i've seen in a game. The only thing that impressed me in Gears of War 3 is the way it handles it smoke particle effects. Though Killzone 3 has great particle effects too.CorbraMax

Killzone 3 has low resolution particle effects. The performance shouldn't be bad at all. lolNeither Uncharted 2 or Gears 3 have dynamic texturing. Only one game this gen does that. It's called RAGE.

It's not like Xbox 360 can't do MLAA. It's inCostume Quest on XBLA. They just can't afford it. The AA used in Uncharted 3 is not good either. It's actually worse than 2XMSAA.

[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="CorbraMax"]

Gears 3 is a very smooth game. So Killzone 3 & 2are just as "unstable" as Gears 3. Why don't you see the framerate analysis for those games from digital foundry.

And lies about Infamous 2 and GT5 not being hyped as graphics kings.

Innovazero2000

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Skyrim, I can't even see why anyone would try to argue against it....

Skyrim has over 300 hours of content how much of this content will be worth our time? Quality>Quantity, multiple ways to play howver you want to (sneaky assassin, big axe guy, fire shooting wizard, or whatever else you want ect.... or you know, you could just take the best option by far, the sneaky assassin with a big axe that shoots fire out of his hands) and Skyrim has a HUGE map size huge bland world. Plus it has epic dragon battles I am tired of dragons. Just like I am tired of zombies, vampires and tacked on morality meters like in Infamous and Bioshock and a whole new engine looks more like an updated engine to me, I'm REALLY excited about this game. It's going to be my GOTY with Uncharted 3 being the runner up!

The only thing I'm worried about is the dungeon variety, they have only shown off one dungeon and it looked awesome. I just hope there are more types than what they had in Oblivion with the 500 copy-and-paste forts. Morrowind had MUCH better dungeon vairety IMO.

I also hope they don't screw up the PS3 version, now now before anyone freaks out I know that 90% of multiplats are the same, despite the invisble differences that the fanboys like to fight about (dumbest arguments in SW IMO). But Fallout 3 (at launch) was pretty messy on PS3, it froze and had framerate issues and it had zero trophies. Thankfully Bethesda patched it and Fallout 3 works perfeclty fine on PS3 now, but the launch was pretty buggy.

I just hope Bethesda doesn't make the same mistake as before...

Maroxad

Then there is

• Developer's recent games. Both Oblivion and Fallout 3 were terrible.
• Awful UI and menus, those menus dont look practical at all.
• Melee combat that is composed of rubbing your weapon on the enemy. Till one of you falls.
• Level scaling making exploration pointless.
• No custom spells.
• Still a boring looking spellcasting system. Dual wielding spells, seriously?
• Terrible roleplaying mechanics. No attributes for starters.
• Most likely, terrible story (going by recent Bethesda offerings)
• Bugs (again going by Bethesda history)
• Horrendous enemy AI.
• The fact that Bethesda has only shown the same part over and over again. Hmm, I wonder why.

[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"] Not sure if serious, or just bageldelol

[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="CorbraMax"]

Infamous 2 also has no AA... And a unstable framerate...

Killzone 2and 3 have unstable framerates.

Uncharted 1 has screen tearing

GT5. The biggest and highest selling exclusive on the PS3 has framerate drops, pop in, and crazy screen tearing.

I can do this all day.

CorbraMax

Gears 3 is a very smooth game. So Killzone 3 & 2are just as "unstable" as Gears 3. Why don't you see the framerate analysis for those games from digital foundry.

And lies about Infamous 2 and GT5 not being hyped as graphics kings.

[QUOTE="CorbraMax"]

[QUOTE="monkeysmoke"] Well what i can realy tell from your link is that Gears of War 3 suffers : 1. No AA = Jaggy look 2. Ustable Framerat drops to 25fps sometimes 3. Screen Tearing. For me it a shame for a 2011 high rated exclusive to launch without a single AA when there are many cheap AA solutions out there (FXAA & MLAA) :( . Oh i forgot to mention that textures still loads slower in Gears 3.....ofcause it an unreal engine game. Uncharted 2 & killzone 3 still looks and perform far beter.monkeysmoke

1.) Crysis 1 Max with no AA looks leaps and bounds better than every console game released yet.

2.) Gears 3 with no AA still looks better than Uncharted 2.

3.) Uncharted 1 had framerate drops and screen tearing... And it still looked better than Gears 1. Same rule applies here. But if you judge graphics on performance than you would also blindly say that Forza 3 looks better than GT5. Since that gamehadcrazy framerate drops and copious amounts of tearing.

4.) MLAA is not a cheap solution. Uncharted 3 is actually using a crappy version of it compared to God of War 3 and Killzone 3.

5.) Textures in UC2 load just as slow as Gears 3. Try playing a MP game. Uncharted 2 uses recorded cutscenes to mask texture loading.

6.) If Uncharted2 and Killzone 3 lighting, shadows, and motion blur are not as good Gears 3... How is it supposed to look better? Nevermind the increased texture resolution quality and filtering in Gears 3. Also the heavy amounts of high res alphas on display without going sub HD like Resistance 3 to pull it off.

[QUOTE="Cow4ever"]

He is just a boring idiot with nothing to say.

parkurtommo

He is just a boring idiot with nothing to say.