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#1 Damedius
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@vl4d_l3nin said:
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Study after study indicates that to avoid many of the worst possible outcomes of climate changes humans should pretty much stop using oil just about...right now. Like, to go from whatever we use now, to 0, zilch, nada.

Stopping fossil fuels is a non starter.

It would be signing the death warrant for billions of people.

You'd be amazed how many green folks think that it's necessary for lots of people to die very quickly. Fortunately for them, it's probably going to happen.

I could be wrong but policies today look like more a gradual slow depopulation. Climate Change is going to be used to slowly strangle the richer economies of the world and transfer the wealth out of them.

The real problem that is that their are too many people on the planet to live like the typical American. We would devastate the planet quickly and put a huge strain on resources.

So by strangling wealthy economies slowly and by removing the middle class, you reduce resource consumption. The planet can handle billions of poor people who have little consumption outside of their basic survival needs. It can't handle 7.5 billion people living the American dream.

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#2 Damedius
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@mjk_1 said:

Alexandria Cortez will save us.

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At least she is hot. Those crazy eyes though. It's a TRAP!!!!!

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#3  Edited By Damedius
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Seeing as divide and rule works so well....

I'm guessing that identity politics won't go away anytime soon.

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@Master_Live said:

Study after study indicates that to avoid many of the worst possible outcomes of climate changes humans should pretty much stop using oil just about...right now. Like, to go from whatever we use now, to 0, zilch, nada.

Stopping fossil fuels is a non starter.

It would be signing the death warrant for billions of people.

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Does that mean Horizon 3 will have a pointless ending in which nothing we did mattered at all?

Does this mean Horizon 4 will diversify it's writing staff, resulting in it sounding like fan fiction written by a 18 year old gender studies major.

Having said that I'm okay with as long as it doesn't cause my face to be tired and as long as it allows me to identify as an Asari Commando,

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#6  Edited By Damedius
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@HoolaHoopMan said:
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So? That in no way erases the broader scope of the CDC's findings, in fact, they incorporate the above into their calculations. Like anything with statistics, there are limitations. It's the nature of statistics.

It's cute that you spent a whole 10 minutes trying to cherry pick a single paragraph which in no way refutes the overall findings.

Lol. Not all statistics are equal. That's what that little snippet is saying. It's saying that the numbers are basically useless because they are based on random phone calls that nobody makes.

Do they not teach reading comprehension any more?

What a cogent argument. Copy/paste a single paragraph, while ignoring the conclusions, and just declaring they don't count.....because of some perverted understanding of their methodology?

You're a shining example of what Byshop was talking about earlier. A lone warrior fighting against the CDC and meta-studies, a self described google scholar.

Lol. You posted a random study you just googled and then accuse me of being the google scholar. (Projection?)

What really amuses me is that you can't seem to figure out why that study is useless.

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@HoolaHoopMan said:
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Absolute horsesh*t. The flue vaccines saves thousands of lives each year.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/reports-vaccine-benefits-2016-2017.htm

'Flu vaccination prevented an estimated 5.3 million influenza illnesses, 2.6 million influenza-associated medical visits, and 85,000 influenza-associated hospitalizations during the 2016-2017 influenza season, according to an online CDC report. These findings underscore the important benefits provided by influenza vaccination, which has been recommended annually in the United States for all persons 6 months and older since 2010.'

"These estimates are subject to several limitations. First, influenza vaccination coverage estimates were derived from reports by survey respondents, not vaccination records, and are subject to recall bias. These coverage estimates are based on telephone surveys with relatively low response rates; nonresponse bias may remain after weighting for the survey design. Estimates of the number of persons vaccinated based on these survey data have often exceeded the actual number of doses distributed, indicating that coverage estimates used in this report may overestimate the numbers of illnesses and hospitalizations averted by vaccination. The model of averted illness calculates outcomes directly prevented among persons who were vaccinated. If there is also indirect protection from decreased exposure to infectious persons in a partially vaccinated population (i.e., herd immunity), the model would underestimate the number of illnesses and hospitalizations prevented by vaccination. Estimates of the averted burden in older adults, aged ≥65 years, do not reflect the increasing use of high-dose or adjuvanted influenza vaccines, which may have higher effectiveness compared with standard vaccines; nor does the estimate reflect that vaccine effectiveness might continue to decrease with age, reaching very low levels among the oldest adults who also have the highest rates of influenza vaccination. Finally, because the data and methods used to make these calculations are continually updated, future estimates may differ from those presented here."

Did you actually read it or just link?

So? That in no way erases the broader scope of the CDC's findings, in fact, they incorporate the above into their calculations. Like anything with statistics, there are limitations. It's the nature of statistics.

It's cute that you spent a whole 10 minutes trying to cherry pick a single paragraph which in no way refutes the overall findings.

Lol. Not all statistics are equal. That's what that little snippet is saying. It's saying that the numbers are basically useless because they are based on random phone calls that nobody makes.

Do they not teach reading comprehension any more?

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#8  Edited By Damedius
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@HoolaHoopMan said:
@Damedius said:

You think flu vaccinations which have questionable usefulness...

Absolute horsesh*t. The flue vaccines saves thousands of lives each year.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/reports-vaccine-benefits-2016-2017.htm

'Flu vaccination prevented an estimated 5.3 million influenza illnesses, 2.6 million influenza-associated medical visits, and 85,000 influenza-associated hospitalizations during the 2016-2017 influenza season, according to an online CDC report. These findings underscore the important benefits provided by influenza vaccination, which has been recommended annually in the United States for all persons 6 months and older since 2010.'

@HoolaHoopMan said:
@Damedius said:

You think flu vaccinations which have questionable usefulness...

Absolute horsesh*t. The flue vaccines saves thousands of lives each year.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/reports-vaccine-benefits-2016-2017.htm

'Flu vaccination prevented an estimated 5.3 million influenza illnesses, 2.6 million influenza-associated medical visits, and 85,000 influenza-associated hospitalizations during the 2016-2017 influenza season, according to an online CDC report. These findings underscore the important benefits provided by influenza vaccination, which has been recommended annually in the United States for all persons 6 months and older since 2010.'

"These estimates are subject to several limitations. First, influenza vaccination coverage estimates were derived from reports by survey respondents, not vaccination records, and are subject to recall bias. These coverage estimates are based on telephone surveys with relatively low response rates; nonresponse bias may remain after weighting for the survey design. Estimates of the number of persons vaccinated based on these survey data have often exceeded the actual number of doses distributed, indicating that coverage estimates used in this report may overestimate the numbers of illnesses and hospitalizations averted by vaccination. The model of averted illness calculates outcomes directly prevented among persons who were vaccinated. If there is also indirect protection from decreased exposure to infectious persons in a partially vaccinated population (i.e., herd immunity), the model would underestimate the number of illnesses and hospitalizations prevented by vaccination. Estimates of the averted burden in older adults, aged ≥65 years, do not reflect the increasing use of high-dose or adjuvanted influenza vaccines, which may have higher effectiveness compared with standard vaccines; nor does the estimate reflect that vaccine effectiveness might continue to decrease with age, reaching very low levels among the oldest adults who also have the highest rates of influenza vaccination. Finally, because the data and methods used to make these calculations are continually updated, future estimates may differ from those presented here."

Did you actually read it or just link?

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#9  Edited By Damedius
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@horgen said:
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@horgen:

Im not giving up nor was i arguing. For example it could be stated that the big pharm companies are only growing and that the need to cure "mental illness" could *potentially* be connected to how we people are treated from birth.

Imo its the principal behind solving the problem. Lets say theres a pot of gold at the bottom of the ocean. Between the person and the pot of gold are swarms of sharks. The ideology behind the mindset of a pro vaccination person is to say, "well, why dont we destroy all of the sharks to get the gold." Whereas, on the other side, an non pro vaccination person would say, "maybe we should go around, or not go there alltogether and leave that at peace."

Vaccinations pretty much ruins a bigger marked for pharmacy companies. It's one or two shots over lifetime instead of treating an illness when it becomes apparent. You're misunderstanding the very essence of vaccination in your analogy. A pro vaccination person isn't say lets kill all the sharks. They are saying that they do not want to be one potential food source for those sharks.

Also, in case of rabies... You're going to wait for symptoms before you get yourself checked? Or have a vaccine instead?

You really think vaccinations hurt Big Pharma?

You think flu vaccinations which have questionable usefulness and in some countries are subsidised by the government hurt big pharma?

Do you really believe that big pharma has an economic interest in fighting against vaccinations rather than fighting for more vaccinations?

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I wont pretend to know all the details. Terrorists however are very real, otherwise 9-11 would have never happened.

Why no invasion of Saudi Arabia then? I mean that's where the Bin Laden family(connected to the Bush family) was from?

Anybody remember this clip?

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