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#1 DangerousLiquid
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[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]I am now convinced that even the console version of BF3 will blow MW3 out of the water. I'm disappointed COD fanboys haven't been more creative in defending MW3. It's all PR codewords. Before the BF3 hype train left the station I had never heard COD described as "butter-smooth" and "Arcade-style." The current descriptions of COD gameplay remind me of the spin you hear during presidential campaigns. I keep hearing the same stale talking point: "MW3 will be 60 fps. BF3 will be 30 fps on console." That's because the engine is from 1999 and the resolution is 600p. BF3 will be 720p on console, but that doesn't seem to count for whatever reason. 60 fps IS better than 30 fps, but not at the expense of visual quality, map size, player count, vehicle count, and environmental destruction. I don't even think most people can tell 30 fps from 60 fps unless they're watching a side-by-side video. I have never seen animation so fluid as the animation in BF3, even in movies. The production value of the game I see in BF3 trailers is quite an achievement. I used to think we were still a few years away before the leap in graphics would justify the purchase of a new generation of consoles. This is a next generation game and will push the boundaries of even current gen graphics. The fence-sitters that say "just buy both games" are the most blind among us. Look, if you want to drop 120 bucks to buy two modern military shooters in the same month, then that's on you, but don't insist the rest of us have to waste 60 dollars so you can avoid making a decision on which game will provide you with the best quality experience. After watching the Caspian Border trailer, there is no doubt in my mind that game is BF3. Multiplayer gameplay for MW3 has been out for a couple years if you want to compare. lightleggy
Applause, those are exactly my feelings. im not even a COD fanboy, I support both...hell I might be getting MW3 (but not on release...i'll wait for a price drop) but I will always think BF is better...the only "argument" cod fans know how to use against battlefield is "battlefield is not that popular, battlefield doesnt sell as much as cod so that means its worse" and "cod runs at 60 fps on consoles while bf runs at 30"

Ah, I played MW2 today with my friends, and it reminded me why CoD will ALWAYS be number one: action.

Headquarters on Scrapyard. 4v4. So much intense action, grenades flying everywhere, bullets tearing through here and there. Pure entertainment, simply. If it's possible to even come remotely close to having as fun in BF, you may as well shoot me.

COD will always be number one. Period.

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#2 DangerousLiquid
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"] lol no, mario kart sold twice as much as BO on the wii, and its way more actively played, SSBB as well, even though its donkey crap (online) but its still one of the most played games.lightleggy

:lol::lol:

Black Ops attracts 17 million unique users on PS3, 360 and PS3 each week.

If you honestly think any game in the world (like the big ones; CS, WoW, SC) comes close, let alone some unpopular games on the Wii, then;

you're simply trolling,

or you're the most uneducated gamer in the world.

congratulations, please tell me how this relates to my post that black ops is more popular and sold more for the wii against mario kart.

You said MKWii is "way more actively played" than BO. I had a good laugh and corrected you.

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#3 DangerousLiquid
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[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Maybe in sales only Shred3D.

super600

Everything else is subjectve...

Graphics are not subjective.

You know that in the real world, no one really cares about graphics. When you're into business, and want to make money, you'll want to make a game that everyone buys and continues to play until the next instalment, so that they purchase it, as well, creating a super franchise. Like COD.

Graphics won't help you a bit.

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[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Then what's up with the online numbers in BO decreasing dratiscally since it's release.

super600

Still way more played than any FPS in the world. You can't spin facts, friends. Just accept that COD is superior to everything else.

Maybe in sales only Shred3D.

Everything else is subjectve...

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[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

COD is to FPS as is Wii Sports to casuals buying a console. It's casual. It offers a linear campaign that is done in 5 hours or less no matter which COD you play. It's filled with cheap thrills (like a summer blockbuster) with it's set piece cinematic moments, and an above average multiplayer with a levelling up system and a couple perks thrown in.

It's by no means a bad game, but by no means is it the template all FPS should be. COD is the perfect example of taking a 7/10 and making it a 9/10 by good marketing and a severe lack of a current generation military shooter designed for the casual gamer.

Yes the "shooting genre" altogether is competitive, I will not disagree. But at the time Modern Warfare 1 came out, competition was relatively low (compared to now) and military shooters were less frequent. And here's a news flash, most shooting games are terrible. So despite competition, it's really just a lot of other mediocre shooters hoping to get big.

And to ignore the template Halo/Half-Life/Mario/Zelda/GTA3 etc., have laid out is to disregard the basic template each of these games have established that all current games are somehow based off of. You can't deny it.

COD important? Yeah sure. In how to market a game and really push a "core" title to a casual crowd by simplifying the experience for the single player but by giving some incentive for the hardcore to shine in the multiplayer.

But you're delusional to think that is the most important game to come out of this generation. Wii Sports will forever hold that crown, and if you don't believe it explain the reason for the development of the PS Move and MS Kinect. Also 90 million Wii's.

super600

Is Call of Duty as casual as Wii Sports? Maybe that's why there is CALL OF DUTY XP? Where is Wii Sports XP? Stop embarrassing yourself.

And Wii Sports sells, because it's bundled, people play it for 2 weeks and never touch it again.

Black Ops sells, and continues to be the most played game in the world until the next game arrives.

That is the difference between a truthfully successful game, and a successful game. Don't think anything different.

Call of Duty 4 changed everyone's thought on making a FPS. It is the reason COD is the biggest and most powerful trademark in the gaming industry these days. And with Modern Warfare 3 breaking all pre-order records, it will not change anytime soon. Face it, or quit gaming for good.

Then what's up with the online numbers in BO decreasing dratiscally since it's release.

Still way more played than any FPS in the world. You can't spin facts, friends. Just accept that COD is superior to everything else.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

How about all those 2D and 3D platformers like DKCR,KEY,Sonic Colours, Sonic Generations, Rayman Origins,Super Meat Boy and more.

sonic_spark

Uh? They're nobodies.

COD is to FPS as is Wii Sports to casuals buying a console. It's casual. It offers a linear campaign that is done in 5 hours or less no matter which COD you play. It's filled with cheap thrills (like a summer blockbuster) with it's set piece cinematic moments, and an above average multiplayer with a levelling up system and a couple perks thrown in.

It's by no means a bad game, but by no means is it the template all FPS should be. COD is the perfect example of taking a 7/10 and making it a 9/10 by good marketing and a severe lack of a current generation military shooter designed for the casual gamer.

Yes the "shooting genre" altogether is competitive, I will not disagree. But at the time Modern Warfare 1 came out, competition was relatively low (compared to now) and military shooters were less frequent. And here's a news flash, most shooting games are terrible. So despite competition, it's really just a lot of other mediocre shooters hoping to get big.

And to ignore the template Halo/Half-Life/Mario/Zelda/GTA3 etc., have laid out is to disregard the basic template each of these games have established that all current games are somehow based off of. You can't deny it.

COD important? Yeah sure. In how to market a game and really push a "core" title to a casual crowd by simplifying the experience for the single player but by giving some incentive for the hardcore to shine in the multiplayer.

But you're delusional to think that is the most important game to come out of this generation. Wii Sports will forever hold that crown, and if you don't believe it explain the reason for the development of the PS Move and MS Kinect. Also 90 million Wii's.

Is Call of Duty as casual as Wii Sports? Maybe that's why there is CALL OF DUTY XP? Where is Wii Sports XP? Stop embarrassing yourself.

And Wii Sports sells, because it's bundled, people play it for 2 weeks and never touch it again.

Black Ops sells, and continues to be the most played game in the world until the next game arrives.

That is the difference between a truthfully successful game, and a successful game. Don't think anything different.

Call of Duty 4 changed everyone's thought on making a FPS. It is the reason COD is the biggest and most powerful trademark in the gaming industry these days. And with Modern Warfare 3 breaking all pre-order records, it will not change anytime soon. Face it, or quit gaming for good.

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[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

How about all those 2D and 3D platformers like DKCR,KEY,Sonic Colours, Sonic Generations, Rayman Origins,Super Meat Boy and more.

super600

Uh? They're nobodies.

SuperMeatBoy a nobody.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/super-meat-boy/review.html?tag=summary%3Bread-review

Wow, ONE platformer that scores 9.5! The genre is dying, it's like a desert. No standards. Easy to score high. EOD.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

Then what's up with all the reviews saying that SMG2 raised the platforming genre's standards to extreme heights.

super600

Because they were extremely low before. When you say platforming, there is only Mario. Oh, and LBP.

The rivalry in the biggest genre of the world, FPS, is gigantic. CoD faces competition from every angle. BF, Crysis, KZ, BioShock, Resistance, FEAR, Halo, CS etc...

How about all those 2D and 3D platformers like DKCR,KEY,Sonic Colours, Sonic Generations, Rayman Origins,Super Meat Boy and more.

Uh? They're nobodies.

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#10 DangerousLiquid
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[QUOTE="super600"]

Good old mario still has the power to obliterate the COD franchise according to this.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/super-mario-galaxy-2

super600

The rivalry doesn't exist in the platforming genre. Period.

Then what's up with all the reviews saying that SMG2 raised the platforming genre's standards to extreme heights.

Because they were extremely low before. When you say platforming, there is only Mario. Oh, and LBP.

The rivalry in the biggest genre of the world, FPS, is gigantic. CoD faces competition from every angle. BF, Crysis, KZ, BioShock, Resistance, FEAR, Halo, CS etc...