[QUOTE="TheGTAvaccine"]Well making a post like this doesnt help anything.[/QUOTE

I could see your arguement if I was making another post about the damned score. I'm just telling those posters to go back and read and post in some of the original topics rather than wasting forum space by making redundant posts.

I also made the post because it's kind of interesting how one score on gamespot causes an uprising. It's as if people think that constantly posting about it will get the score changed.

Yes, i'm not dreaming, only XB360 has no Official game releasein awhole month of DECEMBER!!!!!!!!paksiwin

You're saying this assuming that EVERY 360 owner got the games they want before the hoiday. Sheesh! Haven't you ever heard of the things called gifts?

Now, I don't mind discussing video games, but there has to come a point where the constant Mass Effect threads either change or stop.

WE GET IT, you don't like the review Gamespot gave it, so quit griping and go play it. That's all everyone's been posting about, OMG mass effect review wrong, blah blah. I even read one thread where someone posted like 8 paragraphs just to say that the reviewer dude was wrong about the vehicle controls.

I suppose I'll be told, WELL IF YA DONT LIEK THE THREADS DoN"T READ 'UM. Uh...sorry, I certainly don't like to, but I'd also like to be able to navigate the 360 forum and read the threads without "MASS EFFECT BETTER THAN 8.5" or "REVIEW WRONG, TURRET CONTROLS WORK" in between everything.

It's kind of frustrating, I just got the RRoD and my new xbox has yet to arrive, but I got Mass Effect in the mail....damn...

But seriously, can't anyone talk about some fun moments in the game or something or other that's different. I dunno, if I'm wrong I'll shut up, but I think that people have the power to judge for themselves and to READ threads that have already been posted about ME.

They'll edit the review.

Before you even post after only reading the first two sentences, this has nothing to do with bashing the Mass Effect reviewer himself (he's entitled to his opinion) or the score of Mass Effect, but rather a huge gameplay component that he based the score on (and apparently did not understand.) It is also not to say there aren't flaws in the game. I also experienced some technical issues, and I didn't find the interface to be the best (though by no means bad) of the best.I am not trying to discredit the review as a whole, or Gamespot.

That being said, there is a HUGE factual inaccuracy in the Mass Effect review, one that he implied brought down the overall quality of the game down (it seemed to be one of if not the biggest complaints about the game.) Before you jump to any conclusions - No, i'm not talking about the silly stuff that's usually mentioned in review critiques (randomly quoting the gist of an opinion in on summation paragraph and quoting another that seems to contradict it- that stuff is silly.) This really has nothing to do with the score of the game either, so you can put that to rest.

That being said the reviewer's major gripe about the combat was the vehicle combat. According to the reviewer you could not aim the turret in the Mako thus, he said, making all vehicle combat frustrating. If this were the case the vehicle combat would indeed be frustrating and it does indeed comprise apretty sizeable portion of Mass Effect; However, it's completely false. Not only can the turret always be aimed up, with stuff like Zoom if can be aimed accurately. This is a basic control function and he seems to have completely missed.

I also notice fanboys who have never played the game using his notion of how the Mako works to bash Mass Effect. It makes me laugh because it's just completely wrong. It really reveals who hasn't played the game (which is most who complain about it.)

It's obvious the reviewer was not familiar with the most basic control scheme of a huge part of Mass Effect (the Mako) and that should at least be corrected in an edit after the review. It leads to me wonder what else he missed...The stuff he said about how you use the vehicle is completely false, and much unlike most things in System Wars this can not be argued.

How did he miss this?!?!? This is a conclusion someone who has only played the game for a few hours would reach. Honestly, nothing against the guy but this is some amateur stuff, no offense to this site as a whole. Did he play the final version or did BioWare send out a true, final one to the reviewers (not trying to be sarcastic either, I doubt he would've missed something like this otherwise)? It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't.

For those that haven't played the game and are having a tough time putting it into perspective, it would be like taking a game where a huge portion of it was done by using a sniper rifle. It would be like saying that sniper rifle was bad, hard to use, and was sloppy because of its inability to aim accurately, and at the same time realizing that sniper rifle has a ZOOM function that really defined how the weapon fuctioned, or not even realizing you could look and aim up with the weapon.)

To be honest, this is probably the biggest factual innacuracy I have ever seen on Gamespot, it's kind of a shame. Hopefully they correct it in least the body of the review. This is something you'd expect to see within a poorly written blog.

Nothing against the dude, this site, or the score... but you should at least at a little edit after the review about it.

KingOfKonging

Redundant...we know all this already

the PS3 the PS TRIPLETHREE will not be defeated this easily

so what it had a rough launch at 600 dollars price tag an blu-ray wasnt very popular ok we get it we all kno this was going to be a tough sell for millions of gamers

its 2008 now its at 400 dollars the ps3 has the brightest future an is matchin the 360's price point with better newer tech an its not 2 years old like the 360 is and it never breaks down so u dont need the warantee, an the 360 elite with hd-dvdwhich has wifi in it COSTS200dollars more then the ps triple 3 and alreadyhas wifi included in the system an the better blu-ray u do the math folks im doin the math im seeing that the ps3 comes out on top in everyway

do u know what 1080p means 360 fans DO U KNOW WHAT THE 1080p stands for it means THE BEST AROUND it means better then everythin that exists before it it means nothin technology has surpassed this kind of stuff edxcept for sony

humans like me who have good eye sightcan tell the difference we can see the future an the future is the best nobody wants 2nd best nobody wants to skate by with a slightly weaker tech WE want the best were americans we dont settle for 2nd best hd gaming i dont want the 2nd best console i want hte best experience an nothin less

it means no pc or computer can match this kind of HD resolution it just doesnt exist hermits dont even try ur computer isnt in HD like sony's

the top of the line cell processors are used in super computers all over the world from scientist labratories to big school universities who need the best performance in there computers an the fastest speeds that the averagehermit cannot fathom

the ps3 each has there very owncell chip inside there super computing ps3'sit may notbe the bestcell chips but they r the 2nd best an thats proven everywheresony is just giving us too much too big of a good deal imo icannot even believe they r so nice

its over sony always wins

360 all good stuff is out alrdy

wii all u r good stuff is out already

the ps3 is the future baby an sony always wins this war is just begining folks will see who sells the most at the end of the consoles life cycles the ps3 gonna be in the 100 million seller by 2010 hey man we cant allduke it out forlast place like microsoft an nintendo someones gotta lose in the END and this war is just gettin started everyone knows the biggest sales are done in the middle to end of a consoles life span an right now things r just warmin up for the ps3

ff13/mgs4 yeah thats the future right there i never said rachet an clank was the future or lair i SAID MGS4 AN FF13 AN GRAND TURISMO IS WHAT I said so dont say i hyped that stuff i never hyped uncharted either im hypin mgs 4 10/10 so get outa here

ProtossRushX

Few things:

1. PS3 is matching Xbox's sale price if you're getting the 40 gig.

2. Xbox 360 also has 1080p

3. Sony's "good stuff" isn't even out yet, so I wouldn't talk.

4. Just because the PS3 is "getting started" doesn't mean it's going to do well. I'm sure people thought the same thing about Bush around 9/11 and look where we are now.

5. You sound like you're either a cheap advertisement or a 14 year old fanboy who obviously doesn't do any real research and basis his hypotheses off hype rather than fact. So really, you have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm planning to get a PS3. I've decided that since I've seen the MGS4 and Killzone 2 trailers. Plus I think that over time the console will have a lot of titles to it. I like the fact that Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo are competing, because it potentially means they're working harder to please us, or wipe each other out.

Anyways, I'm wondering if this holiday season will be a good time to get a PS3. I want to be able to play all the games I've owned from previous gen...SOOO I guess that means I have to get the most expensive one doesn't it? The 80 gig. Do you think there will be a price drop/ any kind of holiday special coming up that'll make the PS3 a good buy?

All they have are games which get ported to the PC (and look better)... Boohoo...

"So what!!!! Teh PS3 ownerzz dont all have 1337 PC's!!!!"

sure we dont... but the point is, if you want to play EXCLUSIVE games, like Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, R:FOM, Warhawk, Motorstorm, Killzone 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Haze, Final fantasy, etc.etc.etc. you NEED to buy the PS3....

to get good games like GeOW, Halo 3, Bioshock wtver You may as well kick the 360 in the dirt. Sure you got Forza! Sure you got Mass Effect! but thats it... big deal.... Cause a better deal would be a gaming PC which only requires minor updates every 2 years or so.

We are already seeing how graphically superior the PS3 is. And again, you may say:

"Multiplatz are better on the 360!!!!!!!!"

Not always, AC and Oblivion are better on the PS3... And think about the logic... We can get graphics like Uncharted, HS and Ratchet... but we cant get graphics for things like NFL 08??? PLEASE, its only a matter of time till developers find easier and cheaper ways of developing for the PS3...

Im sorry Lemms, but your arguements are getting weaker and weaker daily...

Stumpt25

The problem with your argument is that 360 sales are doing quite well in comparison to PS3 last time I checked. I'm not a fan boy or anything, and I'm actually thinking about getting a PS3, so don't think of me as biased, but facts are facts.

The reason these games sell well for the console is that not everyone wants to upgrade their PC when a new game comes out. Sure..there's that option, but I'd rather settle for a console that'll last a few years and will play the games no matter what. So even if games get ported to PC, it's more money for Microsoft which owns Xbox anyways. Either way the company makes a profit off the games.

Besides, you're making claims on games like MGS4 and Killzone 2 and others that aren't even out yet. So TECHNICALLY they don't count as games since they're not sitting in your living room ready to be played. I think you'd better quit while you're (not) ahead sir.

Wow

Just WOW

I'm in Europe, got the PAL version from a wholesaler as usual. Didn't boot at all, unreadable disc error.

I exchange it for another one, boots up, Mass Effect YAAAY, create a character, and after the first cutscene it gives out the "clean your disc" error.

The third time I exchange it I get... NOTHING. The xbox 360 doesn't see the disc at all, it just reads "open tray"

And the fourth version boots up, runs through the first cutscene and after the "Mass Effect" logo, sometimes runs through the second cutscene and sometimes freezes on the logo.

Nice job.

Europeans got screwed again.

I'm talking about the PAL version. Or is it region free altogether?

Still, I'm tired. I'll just change it for Kane and Lynch. Screw you, Mass Effect!

mynameisdigo

I don't think that's a good idea. I saw the Kane and Lynch videos...looks awful. Get your 360 checked out because there's no way the disk can't be read. It's your hardware dudebro.