1.They are making profit, the Xbox debt is now on Windows Phone and the Xbox brand SPECIFICALLY (not the whole entertainment division) is in the green. 2.Sony is here to make money to, elaborate on this. 3.How did they fail? They are in second place. 4.MS has more exclusive games than Sony. They also have better selling exclusive games, and XBLA and Kinect count. 5.You say that PS4 won't make the same mistake but they did. they slowed down their god speed popularity severely, and have hurt themselves. Not saying that they will fail, but MS is much more broad than they were before 2005, and is a large brand now. So i am not seeing how you think PS4 will have a better chance than the 360? Sony didn't really care about FP exclusives the PS1 and PS2 days, that's not the reason why people brought those systems to death. 6.MS is in second place. 7.It's not just Forza, gears, and Halo. I have no idea why you think that. Notice I am actually tlaking about your post nine and you are not responding?[QUOTE="DerveCreaves"][QUOTE="DerveCreaves"][QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]
Im sure you all read the latest article from Forbes this morning.Ms is a very rich company, but even throwing their money around, they have yet to dominate.MS isnt going to keep making consoles if they have yet to make profit overall with the Xbox brand. Theyre here to make money, not please its fanboys. Thats something the Xbox brand has yet to do. Even with their closest rival, Sony, making as many mistakes as they have this gen, MS couldnt get the job done. They failed against the Wii and PS3 despite having more than triple their combined market cap. MS needs to realize its passion for the business that will bring them ahead, not money. MS would rather throw 500 mil on marketing then make exclusive games. With Sony coming back to top form with PS4 (no 600 dollar price tag, easier to develop for, etc) MS wont have the advantage like they have this gen. So the question is, If MS couldnt get the job done this gen (coming in last place) with its competitors making mistakes, how are they going to manage with smarter competition. I think its time to put effort into more exclusives then wearing out the tired Halo, Gears, Forza cycle.
NineTailedGoku
Better selling exclusive games?
www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/
IN order in millions(AA budget and up titles only, original Retail only in time frame): using VGcharts(lol): 2006: (Ps3)Genji:1Mill>Full Auto:200,000(360)=PS3 (PS3)RR7:1.31m>PDZ:740,000(360)=PS3 (360)Gears 1:5.98Mill>Resistance 1:4.11 Mill(PS3)=360 (360)N3:270,000>Railfan:9,000(PS3)=360 2007: (360)Halo 3: 11.71 Mill>Motorstorm:3.7Mill(PS3)=360 (360)Crackdown:1.69 Mill>Warhawk:1mill(PS3)=360 (360)PGR4:1.96Mill>Lair:470,000(PS3)=360 (PS3)Heavenly Sowrd:1.57Mill>Ace Combat6:940,000(360)=PS3 (360)Lost Odyssey:840,000>Folklore:250,000(PS3)=360 (pS3)R&C:ToD:2.41Mill>KuF:350,000(360)=PS3 (PS3)Uncharted:4.63Mill>?(360)=PS3 2008: (360)Too Human:750,000>Disgaea3:410,000(PS3)=360 (PS3)Valkria:1.09Mill>InfiniteUndis:650,000(360)=ps3 (PS3)Haze:930,000>Viva:TP:420,000(360)=ps3 (PS3)MGS4:5.72Mill>Fable II:4.09Mill(360)=ps3 (360)Gears2:6.50Mill>LBP:5.12Mill(Ps3)=360 (PS3)Socom:Confront:1.19Mill>BanjoN&B:710,000(360)=ps3 (PS3)Motorstorm:PR:1.24Mill>740,000(360)=ps3 (PS3)Resistance 2:2.34Mill>?=ps3 2009: (360)Halo Wars:2.27Mill>Demon Souls:1.67mill(PS3) (360)Halo3:ODst:6.12Mill>Killzone2:2.88Mill(PS3) (360)Forza3:5.33Mill>Yakuza3:1.04Mill(PS3) (PS3)GT5P>?(360) (PS3)Infamous>?(360) (PS3)Uncharted 2>?(360) (PS3)R&C:ACiT>?(360) (360 ran out of big(AA+) budget(not score) exclusives way to0 early and had most of them at the start of the year in 2009) 2010: (PS3)MAG:1.27Mill>DeathSII:220,000(360)=ps3 (PS3)Heavy Rain:2.26Mill>Crackdown2:1.05Mill(360)=ps3 (360)Halo: Reach:9.35Mill>GOW3:4.5Mill(PS3)=360 (360)Dance Central:2.94Mill>Yakuza4:870,000(PS3)=360 (PS3)Sports Champions:3.46Mill>Kinectimals:1.62Mill(360)=Ps3 (360)KinectAdv:19.73Mill>The Shoot:270,000(PS3)=360 (PS3)GT5:8.65Mill>Kinect Sports:5.48Mill(360)=Ps3 (360)Motionsports>?(PS3)=360 (360)Sonic Free Riders>?(Ps3)=360 (In 2010, both Sony and MS made the mistake of releasing the big core games early, and the PS3 ran out of AA budget exclusives at the end to compete.) 2011: (PS3)LBP2:2.83mill>Kinectsports2:2.10mill(360)=PS3 (PS3)Killzone3:2.40mill>Gunstringer:320,000(360)-=Ps3 (360)Gears3:5.73>Disgaea4:420,000(Ps3)=360 (360)Forza4:3.84Mill>Motorstorm:A:340,000(PS3)=360 (360)Dance Central3:1.87mill>Socom4:750,000(Ps3)=360 (PS3)Infamous2:1.52mill>Ravingrabbitkinect:210,000(360)=ps3 (360)HaloAnv:2.10Mill>Resistance3:1.25mill(360)=360 (360)Disneyland Adventures:2.09mill>R&C:All4one:980,000(PS3)=360 (PS3)Uncharted3:5.61mill>Seasamestreetkinect:410,000(360)=ps3 (Not counting 2012 as that will not gain sales legs until the middle of the year for both consoles.) Conclusions: Not before just counting that winners of each, the whole chart is based off Vgchartz(lol) since many users are using that for ownage(lol). So using Vgchartz, let us see if the PS3 does have as good or better software sales buy counting all the added totals of each whether they won or lost in the release timeline(not counting the times they did not have games to compete: PS3:79,899,000 Xbox 360:106,830,000 Difference:26,931,000 The Xbox 360 has over 26 million more software sales. Which is a ton. 2012 games need more legs grown for both consoles before adding it. Excluding the top 3 biggest selling Xbox games, which people clame are all the Xbox has, it would still be ahead by a considerable amount. Therefore TC's own logic does not work. What do you say about half your thread TC?
Then they cut the budget, for no reason. Then they cut out all projects and abandoned them accept the Jaguar. Then they dropped development of a few other devices and wasted money. Which then they cut the budget again. Which then we got some good companies on board but had terrible advertising after launch. Do the math with the school teacher worked for awhile but that was pretty much the biggest we could afford. Then we started to recoup but to save money skimped on improving dev tolls and other dev assistance. Then that made the Jaguar unbearable by 1995. Then it seemed like dumb management stopped giving a fluck. Then at 1998ish that was pretty much it. Like 3 games showed up and most of the money was spend on project scraped for no real reason but managements stupid heads thinking things may not work. After the money was already wasted. Good times.
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