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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Question for anybody, would you rather man determine everything or a God (God, Allah, Brahman, whatever)?battlefront23

God.Man can't make descision for all of man ..

So are you an Agnostic or an atheist or what? This issue is one reason I believe in God.

I'd rather A god did. However i dont think we have that luxury.

So are you and agnostic or an atheist (devilsjoker)

I dunno, ive been described as 'An open Athiest' before, basically i think its a great idea, would help alot, but the idea of taking any sides is so pointless and results in such a impairment of the pure enjoyment of life (Of which im brimming with) that i'd rather stay out all together, not even object, just have no opinion of the subject. I only think about religion if someone else brings it up. Its not an issue to me, its an option.

Do you think there's ANY evidence for a higher... entity, spirit, etc.

Im perplexed by infinate questions like 'Is there ever an end to space, the universe, whats beyond the universe, how did energy start, if it cannot be created only transfered' Stuff like that, its those questions that keep me open to all options, they arent so much evidence, as a reason why i would never rule it out.

Please don't tell me you're apathetic though.

I dont know what that means in this sence, so im guessing not.

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Question for anybody, would you rather man determine everything or a God (God, Allah, Brahman, whatever)?battlefront23

God.Man can't make descision for all of man ..

So are you an Agnostic or an atheist or what? This issue is one reason I believe in God.

I'd rather A god did. However i dont think we have that luxury.

So are you and agnostic or an atheist (devilsjoker)

I dunno, ive been described as 'An open Athiest' before, basically i think its a great idea, would help alot, but the idea of taking any sides is so pointless and results in such a impairment of the pure enjoyment of life (Of which im brimming with) that i'd rather stay out all together, not even object, just have no opinion of the subject. I only think about religion if someone else brings it up. Its not an issue to me, its an option.

Do you think there's ANY evidence for a higher... entity, spirit, etc.

Im perplexed by infinate questions like 'Is there ever an end to space, the universe, whats beyond the universe, how did energy start, if it cannot be created only transfered' Stuff like that, its those questions that keep me open to all options, they arent so much evidence, as a reason why i would never rule it out.

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Question for anybody, would you rather man determine everything or a God (God, Allah, Brahman, whatever)?battlefront23

God.Man can't make descision for all of man ..

So are you an Agnostic or an atheist or what? This issue is one reason I believe in God.

I'd rather A god did. However i dont think we have that luxury.

So are you and agnostic or an atheist (devilsjoker)

I dunno, ive been described as 'An open Athiest' before, basically i think its a great idea, would help alot, but the idea of taking any sides is so pointless and results in such a impairment of the pure enjoyment of life (Of which im brimming with) that i'd rather stay out all together, not even object, just have no opinion of the subject. I only think about religion if someone else brings it up. Its not an issue to me, its an option.

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Question for anybody, would you rather man determine everything or a God (God, Allah, Brahman, whatever)?battlefront23

God.Man can't make descision for all of man ..

So are you an Agnostic or an atheist or what? This issue is one reason I believe in God.

I'd rather A god did. However i dont think we have that luxury.

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Magnum are you religous?battlefront23

Exactly my thoughts, ive hit this wall of 'IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG *Fingers in ears* BLAAH BLAAAH BLAAAAH' to many times before.

Well for the most part I agree with him. I do believe there are moral absolutes and that truth is never relative.

Well, truth obviously is never relative. Truth is the word meaning something that is. Good and Evil which is what he is discussing are words used by one side, to say the otherside is not only wrong, but damaged in some way, thus why they are wrong and therfore dont belive them, or you are damaged, and evil. We are good however, and its a high podium we can stand on from our side and laugh at the evil dooers because they are morally inferior to us. And you will find the other side feels exactly the same way back, that they are on a podium, looking down on you. The truth is, neither side is.

In almost every aspect you're right. Muslims do suicide-bombings because they think its right, Stalkin killed millions because he thinks is right and etc. with other religions. But this is how I sum it up.

God= ultimate good

Satan= ultimately evil

I cant agree or disagree because im not relgious. So i can't comment on your perspective. But if you agree with how i feel, and thats a summary in your eyes, then its nice to know.

Though you're not religous what religion do you think deals with this issue the best or explains it the best?

None, they all say 'We are good, others are evil' No relgion will ever say 'We might be evil, it depends whos eyes you look at us through'
Thats whyi stay away.

Well whats your opinion if not determined by others at which religion is the best?

I dont think its appropriate to use the term 'Best' for things like relgions. It shouldnt be a compotition. I support all religions as individuals, i just have problems when they start accusing the others of being wrong, and visa versa. Because obviously, theres some extreme hypocracy (Spelt wrong). But yea, if you belive god is ultimate good and satan is ultimate bad and that works for you, then good stuff. My definition was just a way to express that, without any need to religious references.

One thing I hate is the whole "if its good for you thats good but its not good for you" I think that is so incorrect.

Oh, if you took that as me saying 'Well done, if your happy with that then good *pats head*'I really wasnt, i was just saying that from our very seperate stand points we reached the same conclusion but in different words. Your definition is as good to me as mine, as long as i knew what u ment by it.

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Magnum are you religous?battlefront23

Exactly my thoughts, ive hit this wall of 'IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG *Fingers in ears* BLAAH BLAAAH BLAAAAH' to many times before.

Well for the most part I agree with him. I do believe there are moral absolutes and that truth is never relative.

Well, truth obviously is never relative. Truth is the word meaning something that is. Good and Evil which is what he is discussing are words used by one side, to say the otherside is not only wrong, but damaged in some way, thus why they are wrong and therfore dont belive them, or you are damaged, and evil. We are good however, and its a high podium we can stand on from our side and laugh at the evil dooers because they are morally inferior to us. And you will find the other side feels exactly the same way back, that they are on a podium, looking down on you. The truth is, neither side is.

In almost every aspect you're right. Muslims do suicide-bombings because they think its right, Stalkin killed millions because he thinks is right and etc. with other religions. But this is how I sum it up.

God= ultimate good

Satan= ultimately evil

I cant agree or disagree because im not relgious. So i can't comment on your perspective. But if you agree with how i feel, and thats a summary in your eyes, then its nice to know.

Though you're not religous what religion do you think deals with this issue the best or explains it the best?

None, they all say 'We are good, others are evil' No relgion will ever say 'We might be evil, it depends whos eyes you look at us through'
Thats whyi stay away.

Well whats your opinion if not determined by others at which religion is the best?

I dont think its appropriate to use the term 'Best' for things like relgions. It shouldnt be a compotition. I support all religions as individuals, i just have problems when they start accusing the others of being wrong, and visa versa. Because obviously, theres some extreme hypocracy (Spelt wrong). But yea, if you belive god is ultimate good and satan is ultimate bad and that works for you, then good stuff. My definition was just a way to express that, without any need to religious references.

Hitler was Criminally insane. I'm begining to see many of you are as well. Opinion? Let me explain opinion. Insane people have insane opinions, because... they are insane. Just because it's an opinion doesn't mean it's rational reasonable or sane.

You know what the instructor would do? He would grab the guy by the hair and drag him in thecorrect direction and continue to do so until the reject learns which way is the right way.

If your opinion is 2+2=9... that's too truckin bad because it's wrongso your opinion isn't worth spit. Jerks are full of unreasonable ideas. Always have been.

MagnumPI

Haha, wtf. Your instructor was just a tool to give an instruction in an analogous situation, and now hes grabbing peoples hair! haha, thinking free of 'The masses are right' isnt being criminally insane. Check the definition.

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Magnum are you religous?battlefront23

Exactly my thoughts, ive hit this wall of 'IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG *Fingers in ears* BLAAH BLAAAH BLAAAAH' to many times before.

Well for the most part I agree with him. I do believe there are moral absolutes and that truth is never relative.

Well, truth obviously is never relative. Truth is the word meaning something that is. Good and Evil which is what he is discussing are words used by one side, to say the otherside is not only wrong, but damaged in some way, thus why they are wrong and therfore dont belive them, or you are damaged, and evil. We are good however, and its a high podium we can stand on from our side and laugh at the evil dooers because they are morally inferior to us. And you will find the other side feels exactly the same way back, that they are on a podium, looking down on you. The truth is, neither side is.

In almost every aspect you're right. Muslims do suicide-bombings because they think its right, Stalkin killed millions because he thinks is right and etc. with other religions. But this is how I sum it up.

God= ultimate good

Satan= ultimately evil

I cant agree or disagree because im not relgious. So i can't comment on your perspective. But if you agree with how i feel, and thats a summary in your eyes, then its nice to know.

Though you're not religous what religion do you think deals with this issue the best or explains it the best?

None, they all say 'We are good, others are evil' No relgion will ever say 'We might be evil, it depends whos eyes you look at us through'
Thats whyi stay away.

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]So you're saying the mob is the supreme authority? (I hope I'm right in saying this)battlefront23

Erm... Im not sure what the term supreme authority is supposed to mean, or what context mob is used in.

mob=the masses, human general opinion

supreme authority= truth, or good and evil

Oh, then yea. I think good and evil are what the majority agree with. Like right and wrong. If 9999/10000 Belive 2+2 = 6, then the person who belives otherwise will be branded wrong. Equally if hitler kills millions, and 9999/10000 belives he is evil, then the one who doesnt, is also evil. Once again, because he is on a different side.

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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Magnum are you religous?battlefront23

Exactly my thoughts, ive hit this wall of 'IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG *Fingers in ears* BLAAH BLAAAH BLAAAAH' to many times before.

Well for the most part I agree with him. I do believe there are moral absolutes and that truth is never relative.

Well, truth obviously is never relative. Truth is the word meaning something that is. Good and Evil which is what he is discussing are words used by one side, to say the otherside is not only wrong, but damaged in some way, thus why they are wrong and therfore dont belive them, or you are damaged, and evil. We are good however, and its a high podium we can stand on from our side and laugh at the evil dooers because they are morally inferior to us. And you will find the other side feels exactly the same way back, that they are on a podium, looking down on you. The truth is, neither side is.

In almost every aspect you're right. Muslims do suicide-bombings because they think its right, Stalkin killed millions because he thinks is right and etc. with other religions. But this is how I sum it up.

God= ultimate good

Satan= ultimately evil

I cant agree or disagree because im not relgious. So i can't comment on your perspective. But if you agree with how i feel, and thats a summary in your eyes, then its nice to know.