desialex wrote: "14. The unarguable fact proven by both sony and microsoft way back when the the console were first coming out that the PS3 litterally has twice the processing power of the X360. (The X360 was able to preform at 1 teraflop, the PS3 preforms at 2 teraflops) meaning that the PS3 can do twice as much work as the X360, it's all just a matter of making the console do the work." I'm shocked there are gamers out there who still believe that. :|

hovanPS3 wrote: "Gamespot fails to mention that these are 2nd or 3rd generation 360 games and only 1st generation PS3 games, originally coded for the 360 and then ported to The PS3 (ala Madden 08 for example)." And you fail to mention that COD4 was coded by seperate teams at Infinity Ward for the 360 and PS3 versions (with their best programmers working on the PS3 version), and that the PS3 was the lead platform for Burnout Paradise, not the 360. :| Also, the generation arguement is irrelevent and meaningless. Last gen the XBox was released 18 months after the PS2, and yet most multiformat games looked better on the XBox from day one. The so-called generation gap didn't stop XBox games looking better, so why should it be an issue today? You mention comparing exclusives, but please point out such a comparison on any other major gaming website or magazine. There a reason why such a comparison isn't done. The fact is, comparing exclusives (i.e the games from different devs on different consoles) tells us very little about how the consoles compare, since even the exclusive games from different devs on the same console can vary greatly in quality (look at Haze compared to Resistance). :|

JHKHLUJNM wrote: "I have oblivion for ps and ps3 as well" and "I own ut3 on the s3 and pc!!". I see, so you just so happen to buy games twice, one version for the PS3 and one version for the PC. Sure, I believe you, no really I do. ;) BTW, why haven't you mentioned the graphics card you have in your PC?

JHKHLUJNM wrote: "YOU DORK THAT WAS SARCASM!!! I own ut3 on the s3 and pc!! that was my point they said sony has no good developers" I was waiting for your list of games on the PS3 which are superior to the PC version (still waiting), so don't act as if it's clear who you're responding to when you make NO effort in your posts to quote who you're replying to. And please grow up and cut out the insults. I haven't throw names at you here, so please show the same level of maturity when responding. :|

JHKHLUJNM wrote: "LOL yeah cause epic doesnt make games for the os3 or insomniac you guys are stupid. or bethesda damn go down on bill and sht up" Yes, Insomniac only create games for Sony consoles, but ever heard of Unreal Tournament 3? This is Epic's game running on both the PS3 and PC. The PC version is superior. Ever heard of Bethesda's game Oblivion? Again, it's on PS3 and PC (and 360). The PC version is superior (a PC of the specs being spoken of here of course). So you were saying? :) Shall we add some more to the list?

thenephariouson wrote: "Sorry to interupt guys but to say that the 360 has reached its 'Full Potential' simply do not know what they are talking about!...." Exactly. Well said. :)

shanerenaud66 wrote "Its been out for a couple years now and the graphics really havent changed so i think the ps3 has reach it potential." Far from it, neither the 360 nor the PS3 are close to reaching their full potential. The graphics and capabilities demonstrated by both consoles will continue to improve for years to come.

gamewhat wrote: "These PS3 games were evidently ported over very well except for rainbow 6 vegas 2...." I didn't realize that about RB6, I'll check it out now. Thanks. (EDIT: Oh I see, you were referring to Grid, not RB6, but thanks for the link :)). You can also add COD4 to that list (each version coded by seperate teams where Infinity Ward put their best programmers to work on the PS3 version) and Burnout Paradise, where the PS3 was the lead platform (Criterion always lead on Sony consoles).

JHKHLUJNM wrote: "yeah 4 proccessors on a single dye sharing pipeline, is faster riiiiiight." Great, so now you're going to list all those multiformat games running on PS3 and PC where the PS3 version is superior to the PC version. I look forward to your list. :)

JHKHLUJNM wrote: "Jooohny you obviously dont know crap about hardware" Look whose talking. ;) "Thats funny A quad core with a 8800 gtx istn as powerfull as the ps3 nice try." And yet UT3 looks and runs better on such a PC compared to the PS3 version, as does every multiformat game on both machines. "The ps3's 8 spe's dont even need a graphics card look at killzone 2's alpha shots thats with no shaders" *Sigh* What are you talking about? KZ2 is making extensive use of RSX. And btw, it is 7 SPEs in the PS3 with 6 available for games (one reserved for the OS). Like I said, please stay off the tech arguements please, you just don't understand it (sorry, but it's true). :| "Also GOW did push the 360 to the limit you inside the box thinking idiot." Well that insult must apply to me too then. Read my post below and watch the video for some of the improvements for Gears of War 2. http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32198.html