[QUOTE="DryBomber5"]

Ok so besides bad vieiwing angles, and poor colors, is there really anything else wrong with a TN panel compared to an IPS? Because from what I've heard, that's about it...

I wanna do a recap and make sure I understand

Heres the link to the monitor I ordered: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049

Here are my questions that I have.

1) Will there be any ghosting? And if so, how bad?

2) Is 2ms (monitors response time) going to be hard to adjust to from using an SDTV?

3) Will I experience any other issues? (Besides viewing angles and colors)

superclocked

Ok so besides bad vieiwing angles, and poor colors, is there really anything else wrong with a TN panel compared to an IPS? Because from what I've heard, that's about it...

I wanna do a recap and make sure I understand

Heres the link to the monitor I ordered: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049

Here are my questions that I have.

1) Will there be any ghosting? And if so, how bad?

2) Is 2ms (monitors response time) going to be hard to adjust to from using an SDTV?

3) Will I experience any other issues? (Besides viewing angles and colors)

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

lol I dont know what to say. If you have a TN panel with such blacks and perfect viewing angles you REALLY should put it on ebay as it seems to me you got your hands on a prototype from the future.

IPS panels are still much better than TN. And btw dell doesnt make the best TN panels, thats why your son's LCD seems crappy.

superclocked

Can you provide a link for your monitor, on say perhaps newegg or something.

yeah haha

Flamingpostman

I usually play as a one-handed sword and shield person with heavy armor. Love sneaking with my bow for the extra damage. Lockpicking was enjoyable in Oblivion, not sure what it is going to be in Skyrim. Really don't care for magic, might cast it once in a while to try and get more spells.

Totemz

Superclocked, which monitor do have (link would be great but listing the specs is fine if you can't provide a link) and how does it compare with mine? You previously stated that while ips monitors are better with colors (you forgot to mention viewing angles), tn panels are better for games because they're faster.

Now before we go any further, I just want to say this. I really don't care about how much better the colors are on the ips panel than the tn panel. From what I understand, IPS panels are more expensive than TN panels and I think we get that for better quality, the IPS wins out. I'm perfectly okay with that fact, but I didn't come on here to ask about IPS panels did I? No, infact I didn't even ask about TN panels until it was brought up. So please let's stop with the "tn vs ips" discussion because (and I truly feel this way) I really don't care which one is better for colors and/or viewing angles.

ALL I CARE ABOUT is if the games I play on it will look smooth and ghost free. (Now that I understand the difference between motion blur and ghosting, I now know the main issue I had with my samsung 32" 720p 60hz hdtv and it was ghosting. There were other issues I had of course, but not significant enough...)

So can we please address that? Superclocked, I asked you about refresh rate on the monitor and a tv and you said they're "about the same either way" which kinda worried me a bit. Because that imples that my samsung (which is an lcd hdtv) could have the same refresh rate as this monitor. Now my question to you is this, what does fresh rate determine? If it's not ghosting, then that's a relief but that leads to another question, what causes the ghosting? (response time?) Can someone please inform me about ghosting?

I appreciate the feedback from everybody and apologise for all these questions, it's just frustrating when you're searching for answers and people expect you to just take their word for it...

What I would like to know is ; will Skyrim be one of those games that you should play all of the other ones before that to really enjoy and understand how to play the game. Because I really would like to buy it judging by how mny hours are in the game but will I be lost if I have never played th past elder scrolls games?guetta123

One hugely important advantage of IPS is color uniformity.

Plus I cant understand how having much more lifelike colors is not something important for gaming.

Now people say viewing angles dont matter which is again ridiculous. Do you only play games with keyboard/mouse? If yes then maybe they dont but if you game with a gamepad as well then you will essentially be gaming at 2 very different angles and postures. With a TN panel you will have to adjust the display if you wanna play something with a gamepad relaxing back in your chair. Same is the case with watching movies.

And lastly there is no input lag or ghosting on my IPS panel and if you think I am saying it cuz I own it then you dont know how many times I have criticized it as well for other reasons.

Now back to topic, every TN panel and pretty much every IPS panel LCD monitor will have blacks that depending on the individual and lightning conditions could be called pretty acceptable, barely acceptable or downright terrible but no such thing as "great blacks".

VA panel monitor have superior blacks however the shadow detail is almost unacceptable and the response time is really bad so they are not considered superior.

120Hz TN panel will have superior motion on the desktop and in games where the FPS exceeds 60FPS but 60hz TN monitors really dont have much of an advantage if at all with motion smoothness and ghosting.

Gambler_3

This topic was about the black levels, but I want to switch to motion blur, because if I understand correctly, the two really have nothing to do with each other. Black levels just has to do with how truly the color black appears. Motion blur is a different issue and I am concerned with this the most, because who wants to play game if the video doesn't play back smoothly? So, I guess my question is, is there gonna be motion blur on this monitor? (if you don't know, please check the link for the specs)

Now, Gambler_3 you mentioned how 120hz tn panels are better than 60hz tn monitors which really brings me to an issue that still has yet to be addressed. I understand refresh rate enough to know that on bigger screens, refresh rate is obviously important and this applies mostly with LCD/LED's TV's. (I don't wanna bring plasmas to this discussion, so don't bring them up). But on a 24", I just don't see any reason to think 60hz would be an issue... I mean, do you see what I'm getting at here?

[QUOTE="DryBomber5"]

For those who use LCD monitors to display their console games (or pc games) are the black levels good or the same as they are on an LCD hdtv?

WiiRocks66

They're just as terrible as on LCD tvs, yes. And they tend to have more backlight bleed than LCD tvs do.