Your right.Comparing the bible to star wars is ridiculous.Star wars makes more sense.

I dont know who made that little picture, but they seriously need to brush up on their scientific knowledge because atheists never claim that everything came from nothing.But im not going to waste my time explaining the science because you could care less.As long as you think that your being watched and think your special you couldnt really give a ****.

Do yourself a favor.Go to the bookstore, head on over to the science section and read up on everything.And i mean really read it, so you can get an idea of what scientific theory, method and discovery is all about.

xxDustmanxx

Believe it or not, I actaully am very interested in Science. I actually own a few books and here is my theory as last night I could have worded it better. I believe in Theistic Evolution. Science is actually the realest thing out there when discussing nature and elements, BUT when they started making claims THAT THEY HAVE LITTLE TO NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE such as the bigbang, you tell me which one is more science fiction.

I am intrigued by Science because it explains a lot and without scientists and researchers, we wouldn't have near the amount of luxury or freedom, but when they start to make bogus claims, then it becomes a battle between believers(who believe that God created the Universe, but has no factual evidence to support it) and non-believers(who believe this universe came by chance and everything magically appeared, but also has no factual evidence to back this up).

Science and Religion can peacefully co-exist.It actually makes perfect sense, and they do tend to fit together like a jigsaw puzzle. Religion explains how the Universe was made, while Science explains how it evolved. Also, is there any proof that there ISN'T a God. The ONLY reason you do not believe in a God is because you physically can't see him or understand some of what he does, and honestly, I would rather believe in God and find out he doesn't exist, than the other way around. God helps me coupe with life and he helps me through difficult times. One of the main reasons why I am still living on this cold and cruel planet is because I know God placed me here for a reason, I do not know what, but if I did, it would spoil the surprise :P.

That girl in the article died because God let here die. She did what she needed to do in this life, and now she has moved on.

I have a proposal. Why don't YOU give Religion a try, such as reading the bible, saying a prayer or two, and maybe even go to mass once. I have already gave science a try, maybe you should do the same for Religion.

Not only does that quote generalize every religious person as a God-fearing extremist, it was also posted JUST to cause controversy. Honestly, out of the thousands of truly inspiring qoutes, you decided to choose this one. If this isn't flame-bait, then I do not know what is.

Here is one of my favorites seeing as controversial qoutes is the name of the game-

"There is no such thing as an Athiest in a foxhole" -Don't know

[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="luke1889"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="FFseries_Fan"]you have the free will, you do what you do , but its like god knows your future .. use your brain and ull understand. its god u know , we dont know he works exactly we just have to believe in what he told us in the holy books.

smarb001

How can people believe in this BS?

I ask myself this every time I enter a religion thread. It's sheer nonsense.

Why, because you have no comeback besides "you have to BELIEVE!!!"

As I said earlier:

Religion is a fraud and was created to pacify the masses and get money for the priests/church, as well as to answer the basic questions of the universe that can now be answered with science, making all religion an exercise in futility. Prayer and belief in a holy being has never and will never help anyone, being pro-active will.

Okay. ALL-KNOWING, How did the Universe start? Was it the Big-Bang? What caused the big-bang? What was before the big-bang? How did a bunch of elements form into complicated living life-forms? Energy can never be created or destroyed, but at some point, it HAD to be created. Science has answered very little and I find it humorous that you call Religion a Fraud when it makes more sense than Science ever has.

Tbh i can't even understand how people can believe in religions.

The so called holy books is more fictional than any sci-fi book i ever read.

It's just stuff some primitive people wrote, not the words of some god. Believing in what's in the bible is as freaky as people believing starwars is real. Harsh but true.

Do you really think if a god really existed he would care about people blindly worshiping him, and spend so much energy arguing about his true nature, and invest so much emotion in their wildly erroneous imagery that they end up killing each other over differences in definitions of something they clearly haven't got a clue about.

There is nothing that make less sense than religions, and people actually believe in them with everything pointing out at them being just fallacy. But no they prefer to ignore the facts, they don't even want proofs and just have faith because that make them feel more secure.

Dunno why i'm even arguing about it tho, if some simple minded people want to believe in religions so be it, meanwhile i'll just direct my own life and let the religion fanatics have their life directed by some book written by primitives.

Tykain

Honestly, out of all the Atheist (I am assuming you are Atheist) comments, this one bugs me the most. Comparing God and the bible to starwars is ridiculous. It is true that the bible does contain alot of fictional elements, escpecially the old testament, but the majority of the stories in the bible are meant as metaphors. Do you really think Eve ate a forbidden apple, and God decided to doom us all? No! It is a metaphor conveying the message to listen to God, for he knows what is right.

Also, I feel the need after all this bashing of christianity to post this picture-

You may feel that Praying, The Bible, and Christianity as a whole is "stupid", but I feel that the belief in God fills in a lot of voids that science can't possibly fill. In my eyes the only way that the Universe makes sense is through the belief of an almighty creator. What these parents did was horrible, and the should get into serious legal trouble, but in no way does this prove that praying doesn't work. God does EVERYTHING for a reason, and just because the human mind can't comprehend, it doesn't mean it automatically is false. Alot of people dismiss anything they cannot understand which separates believers and non-believers. Some people choose to believe only what theysee, and others choose to believe what they feel.

Faith is a complicated thing, and you shouldn't throw the belief in God to the side because YOU haven't seen him or seen any of his miracles in person. He is all around us, and it is up to the individual to decide if they choose to look.

No. Statistically, everything happens to people at the same rate regardless of whether they pray or not. It's a complete waste of time.

If you pray for something and it happens, it was going to happen anyway. Similarly, if you pray for something and it doesn't happen, it wasn't going to happen anyway.

luke1889

Can I have that crystal ball of yours after your through with it.

Also, tell me what harm can come from praying. The worst that can happen is it doesn't work. The best outcome is God grants your wish, and hey, to me that is worth taking an extra minute out of my day for.

There is a reason why it is called "faith". Trying to make sense of God's divine plan is too complex for any human mind or super computer to comprehend. What if God answered every prayer that he received? The World would go to hell in a handbasket. What I do know is that praying does work, and I have proof of that. The problem with atheists is that they THINK praying doesn't work because they don't BELIEVE it CAN work. You can't expect to just say a prayer and have it magically granted.

But I will say this. If you truly believe in God and accept him as your saviour, then he will help you out. Maybe he won't answer your prayer exactly as you hoped he would, but some of God's greatest gifts are unanswered prayers.

Sorry for being all preachy, but someone has to balance out all the atheist comments :P.

[QUOTE="FatMan1945"]

That is a hard question to answer, because i believe in BOTH creationism and Evolution. I believe that God created the universe and the most basic life forms, and then let Evolution take its course.

I find it kind of disconcerning just how many athiests swarm this board at night, but hey, at least you guys aren't bashing thiests like many athiests tend to do :).

DeeJayInphinity

Then welcome to the twilight zone, cause I just did the impossible :twisted:.

That is a hard question to answer, because i believe in BOTH creationism and Evolution. I believe that God created the universe and the most basic life forms, and then let Evolution take its course.

I find it kind of disconcerning just how many athiests swarm this board at night, but hey, at least you guys aren't bashing thiests like many athiests tend to do :).

Come on, America isn't in THAT bad of shape. I would like to see Clinton become president because Bill Clinton helped our nation out greatly, and Hillary is basically a Bill with make-up. McCain is too militarian (if that isn't a word, I just made it one) but could still end up being a good president. If Obama gets elected, I am going to jump over the border into Mexico.

It is actually funny that you bring Canada up. I am actually planning on moving there once I finish college. It is not only because of the government though. I just do not like the hostility your average Joe living over here posseses. I just love the friendliness of the Canadian People.

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Imgangsterdawg

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Ok, because of you (and the fact that I am utterly bored), I decided to test you little "theory". I ran Winamp 5.52 which is FREE, and I had Supreme Commander running and playing a skirmish with the highest detail my GPU possibly can. And on top of it, I opened the biggest picture in my pictures folder. Here are the results-

Supreme Commander-

CPU=42%

Mem=199,000Kbs out of 2GB

Winamp-

CPU=0%

Mem=8,000Kbs out of 2GB

Total-

CPU=42%

Mem=207,000kbs or .207GBs out of 2 GB

Also, my keyboard has this neat little button at the top that when you press it, the music pauses :shock:! Even more impressive is that you press it again and the music starts back up! I also have a neat little button labeled volume, but I won't go into too much detail because you won't be able to understand it anyways.