Well i'd have to say no, Since Paying 50$ a year obviously does not include really anything other then Allowing you to connect to the internet (that you already pay for in another bill) just to play online. You do Not get friends list. You do not get Messaging. You get a Tad of a chat feature. You do not get voice messages. You do not get Achievements. Those all are free with Silver Live. They are INcluded as Gold, But you obviously are not Paying for those features, only to play games against other people.

Many people obviously confuse themselves with that fact :( When the PS3 gets the integrated XMB Its going to be rock solid. I like Live, But only because it has alot of players. Thats what i feel i pay 50$ for. The organization to allow more vast players to organize into specific games instead of all spread out- and thats still only in some games sadly. Lives dedication is not renouned, the gameplay is not incredible (as the Devs do that), It doesnt give anything other then the ability for you to walk through a gate in its entirety. The PSN already does that for free, it just doesnt have the integrated XMB (something we get for free/ Nothing you pay for). So basically its giving us 1 free (connecting to the PSN) and limited more free with abilities(messaging outside of games/chat/friendslist). While the XBL is giving us 1 free (the abilities- chat/messaging/friendslist) and making us pay for the other (connecting to live).

-Dead Or Alive 4

-Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter

-Kameo: Elements of Power

-The Outfit

-Perfect Dark 0

-Project Gotham Racing 3

-Ridge Racer 6

-Saints Row

This was just launch... not counting the rest of the year.[ ----HAHAHAH wow, Someone Obviously Did NOT own a 360 at launch, that list there is for the entire first year + Gears, chromehounds, Full auto, and Dead rising and minus GRAW as it was Not an exclusive]

How many exclusives did the PS3 have on launch... oh right not worth the post for 2.

sadikovic

Ok, Minus Graw Ill show you how distortedly stupid that post was- (firstly avoiding the fact that over half of those games were NOT available anywhere near launch).

at PS3 Launch-

-Dark Kingdom

-Resistance: Fall of Man

-Ridge Racer 7

-Genji: Days of the blade

-NBA07

-Gundam Crossfire

==== Followed by (since you liked listing games that came out much later than launch)

-F1 Championship

-Motorstorm

-Ninja Gaiden Sigma

-Warhawk

-Uncharted: Drakes Fortune

-Heavenly Sword

-Ratchet and Clank

-Lair

-Folklore

and soon to be UT3, though just after a year. And thats how the PS3 exclusives dominate the exclusive field. Thats only the PS3's first year list of Exclusives..lol..cant wait for Year Number 2, Not just a handful of Exclusives, but TONS. The First year exclusives entirely kills what the 360 experienced, and moves on to compete against the 360 this year exclusives. Thats How Its not just "Wait", For those like me who actually OWNED a damn 360 for its first year, we know just how bloody it was.. Playing COD2 and lagging the place so bad for like the entire year because it was the ONLY decent game to play online..until Gears.

If you want to try and prove how the 360 had Fewer exclusives, by all means stick behind that argument- (where you said "This was just launch" proves you didnt own a 360 at launch btw)

I played it for maybe a week, but ended up getting sick of being shot down by a GIANT MISSILE even though I did flips and barrel rolls and crap like that.

Also, the servers are a damn pain for me, I mean really... Connecting.... Connecting.... Connecting.... So by now I know I am NOT getting into the game I wanted to get into.... but NO you just gotta keep trying to connect until FINALLY the server is full screen comes up. Takes me almost an hour (exaggerating) just to find a ranked server I can play on!

Chrome_Demon

Uhh it hasnt done that on my end since they fixxed in in 1.1...

On the Plus side im still enjoying this game nonstop. Yeah you can say its hard, or that you can get shot down, But whats the fun in playing on a scaled 1 plane map thats limited in availabilities among other various strategies. Where as on Warhawk, I prefer the intensity, the difficulty, the nontstop constant push that you Have to be apart of or you'll get swept aside. I love the fighting there. For Games like Halo or COD4 or even RFOM, they just cant reach this kind of peak.. just jumping into a warhawk and blast rocketing straight up into the clouds higher than any missile could go.. and just hovering around staring up int he sky for a moment or so.. before falling back down and chasing some warhawk or guy down.. and then landing in their base and being able to jump on the back of a jeep or into a tank or even another warhawk and take back into the skies.. just really is a Lot more fun, then Respawning, and slowly approaching the enemy position from the same old way but maybe getting lucky because he had to reload or something and getting a kill instead of dying again.

COD4, Halo, RFOM, Warhawk. Theyre all great games for me, but Warhawk is just extremely unique.. Thats why a lot of people seem to not like it. A) they suck at it and so complain to everyone that they should give up on the game. B) they dont like having to constantly try to be aware of all thats going around them at once (theres a crapload to consider) C) they like easy plain simple ground squad based tactical routines more than anything or D) they dont like all the ways someone could kill you in Warhawk. Kinda ties back into B but with B its more like being aware of what youre trying to accomplish on top of watching the radar and see what positions the enemies taking over ontop of incoming enemies lol.

Oh crap and not to mention the huge updates they have planned for the game- a whole new map (The LArgest one ever) up and coming with a new vehicle and new ways to fight for it. So yeah, Warhawk is definitely one of my favorite games still.

[QUOTE="Fenrir-VII"]

Losing Exclusives? Hardly a bad reason, The PS3 has Tons of exclusives to counter any that are lost, while you guys make that so obvious. Questions like.. What if Bioshock or Gears never were for the 360? Well the 360 would be Dead, and only us Halo people would be owning one. But what if the PS3 never had RFOM? or Haze? Or Warhawk? Well It would resemble what we went through for the 360 on its first year, but not even that bad. And theres alot more exclusives to definitely overshadow those few losses (where as those few would accumulate to many for the 360). And beyond that, most of those games the PS3 somehow "lost" as exclusives are Still for the PS3. Only a real few standout games, Breaking Down faster then people going to hell, Small online fighting, less action, Only good for Halo, sounds like my 360.

DrkLrdofSth

Your argument is unfounded and you have shown no proof to back it up. Follow your fellow cows to the slaughter house.

And your response is a slaughterhouse for logic.

Proof is only in our minds, My opinion though is solid.

Xbox 360 First year- COD2 WOohoo, Graw, woohoo, PGR3 woohoo, prey wohoo, Dead Rising Finally! Something that looks lots better than games on the PS2! Saints Row score! OMGZERBLITZ! GEARS OF WAR!! FINally A good game.. but wait.. its multiplayer still Sucks like CRAP... Thats the 360s first year. Not even a decent 360 exclusive multiplayer game. Maybe Graw, but how could we hide behind something that was also (even if in less quality nonetheless) on the PS2? Now if they never had Gears or Dead rising.. Rofl trouble... My argument is Rock whether you like it or not. I owned and experienced the 360 for its entirety from launch on, and Everyone can talk about how the PS3 is losing Exclusives, but Its had Warhawk, RFOM, HS, NGS, F1, and others, and its Still not a year yet, If the PS3 lost Warhawk or HS or whichever, there are still plenty of others, let alone in the next year, many Good Multiplayer and storyline driven games. Rofl then you turn around and ask again, What if the 360 never had Bioshock or mass effect this year? .. PS3 can stand to lose exclusives and still have many more. Where as if the 360 had lost any or losses any, its a lot worse..

Losing Exclusives? Hardly a bad reason, The PS3 has Tons of exclusives to counter any that are lost, while you guys make that so obvious. Questions like.. What if Bioshock or Gears never were for the 360? Well the 360 would be Dead, and only us Halo people would be owning one. But what if the PS3 never had RFOM? or Haze? Or Warhawk? Well It would resemble what we went through for the 360 on its first year, but not even that bad. And theres alot more exclusives to definitely overshadow those few losses (where as those few would accumulate to many for the 360). And beyond that, most of those games the PS3 somehow "lost" as exclusives are Still for the PS3. Only a real few standout games, Breaking Down faster then people going to hell, Small online fighting, less action, Only good for Halo, sounds like my 360.

PSN ID: FenrirVII

Online Gaming Recently: Warhawk, RFOM, ArmoredCore4, GRAW2, and Any SOCOM. Gaming Soon: COD4, HAZE, and UT3.