Yes.

It should be called, "Chuck Norris Kills All Game Icons and Pop Celebrities."

It would be an extremely easy game, but fun all the same.

I'm extremely skeptical of first-party games and always have been.  I have very little faith and trust in the intellectual property of a company that weds its console buisness intrests so closely to games.  The content, especially its orginonality, is often sacraficed before the altar of safe and steady profit.  The games are typically shallow, "safe," friendly, and disgustingly familiar.

Nintendo is especially bad when it comes to experimenting with gaming as a means of entertainment, and knowing when to produce bold and new content.  Most of their first-party games are mindless renditions of ANCIENT franchises that are built around the demands and expectations of children.  Sketchy content, or anything that might spice the game up and make it more appealing to more mature consumers, does not often make its way into first party games.  Other first party games, thus far, have amounted to little more than childish video games that only consumers who embrace gaming as a child's toy could enjoy without question or higher demands.

I like to see freedom in game development and it sickens me to see one company -- especially a company so bent on making games as childish, simple, pointless, and meaningless as finacially possible -- domiante any console. 

Honestly, read a book. Romance is a theme ill conveyed in videogames, especially since female characters are exagerrated and objectified more often than not.soultron

Why?  I'm personally sick of people thinking that video games and their failures thus far have been pre-determined and are not fixable.  Video games are more than capable of incorporating meaningful forms of romance, and I hate to see people say they are not because little Johnny's demands as a consumer seldomnly require such.

Best romance in a game I can think of is Baldur's Gate II romances.  You can pick about 4, and they unfold throughout a game that is longer than 80 hours.  The choices are extremely different and wacky. 

With 25% approval rating, 3,400 US soldiers dead in a meaningless, illegal, and unwarranted war, enormous growing economic gaps, the restriction of American freedoms, legalized torture, rising energy prices, dogmatic and superstitious use of religion in government decisions, the corruption and moral degregation of conservatism in general, and his backward immgiration policies?

Bush? A third term?

ROFLCOPTER boarding, all aboard!

[QUOTE="xaos"]Freedom to act according to your own wishes is the default state for humans... freedom from consequences is not. The former in no way needs to be granted, the latter, as someone else pointed out, is not provided by government, religion or generally by civil society.flavort

I agree with freedom of consequences. God though is not a religion

What is God?  How do you come about knowing God?  Can you be certain your method of knowing God is sufficent for gaining knowledge?  Why do millions of people disagree with you about God?  Why do people who believe in "different" God(s) practice vastly different levels of freedom?

I don't mean to offend you, but I do not think that God is the source of all freedom.  Freedom to act comes from the sentient and rational mind of a human.  Consequences, by large, are determined by the community for a large number of reasons.  I think religion is actually one of the most anti-free ideologies that humans have dreamed up. 

It's not really a matter of deserving.

Nintendo has done a wonderful job at lowering the standards of their fans, providing a poor quality product at an inflated price, and reaching out to a broader audience under the sales pitch of, "here, kids, moms, grannies, everyone, come play this fun little toy -- isn't it neat to hit the ball across the screen, ^___^;;."  I'm surprised how effective these 20 year old franchises, apparently gamers don't mind being fed the same trash for thing 6th time in a row, have been at retaining a fan base who would acknowledge the console as a peice of garbage if it had been made by any other company. 

It's a sick and sad thing for gaming, especially for Nintendo fans, when consumers sacrafice important values to justify their trust in a console.  Things like hardware quality, the freedom to develop all sorts of games on a console, cost, and orgionality should be universal values that go across console-lines.

But, as I've said, when you judge Wii by the values that we have always considered key and important, the console shines for what it is -- a pile of underpowered, overpriced, "family friendly" garbage.

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[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]I really hope you haters never go into business cause yall sure as **** would go bankrupt. The first thing you ever learn in economics is that you go into to business to make a PROFIT. That is your number one goal. Seriously you haters sound so pathetic. If yall really think the Wii is a ripoff, then I guess you think almost everything you buy is a ripoff. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your HDTVs was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your shoes and clothes was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture them. You do not normally go into business to lose billions of dollars. Do you get the point? bloodychimp

Haters? I'm a consumer, first and foremost. I like to know a company is busting its butt to offer me the best quality product, at the lowest possible price, while paying the highest possible prices to its employees. The Wii is all about exploiting people to sell an antiquated, inferior, and lame product that relies heavily on worthless franchise tags and the "family friendly" audience to make a dollar.

The Wii is offering the worst hardware on the market, at a ridiculous price, and making a profit off consumers who are wound up in nostalgia, utilizing low standards to judge games, or considering games as little more than a childish plaything. The fact someone could say, "THIS IS NP, LOLOL" disgusts me. It is an example of how deluded, backward, and strange this industry has become. We should all be unified against something as vile, pathetic, and disgusting as price-gouging customers.

Don't buy this garbage.

Stop thinking how this industry wants you to think. Both companies are doing bad things. Acknowledge the flaws of both. MS is almost as bad, although not as dangeous to the future of gaming, as Nintendo is when it comes to ripping off consumers.

Microsoft not dangerous to the future of gaming? So I've been imagining them trying to turn the free world of PC gaming into another market for their microtransactions? I don't like the Wii personally (I'm sad that Nintendo has turned its back on its core fanbase to make crap like Brain Age, Wii Orchestra, and Mario and Sonic at the Olympics) but they aren't "destroying gaming" any more than Microsoft is with thier microtransactions or Sony is by trying to shove a potentially useless video format down your throat. 

Actually, I've yet to see Microsoft raise a blade against the functionality and depth of gaming as a format of entertainment itself.  Microsoft seems to be content with simply nickle-and-diming customers for features that should remain free.  Nintendo is the only company at the moment that is guilty of attempting to cause a regression in the depth of gaming as a form of entertainment and the importance of high-quality hardware.

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Haha, this is so wondeful.  So many Nintendo fans have become so deluded and desperate to defend a product that has sold them down the river, reversed the natural progression of this industry, and is attempting to butcher to gaming to little more than a childish plaything that they no longer care about the integrity and consumer friendlyness of this industry.

God, I hate this industry.  And it's not Nintendo that I hate the most, either.

SER69

Blah blah blah... I'm an adult who has to worry about things like games staying affordable and remaining competitive with other forms of media... blah blah blah, I'm sick of seeing this sad industry remain in an intellectual torpor, and want to see gaming embraced as a meaningful and respectable form of entertainment...

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[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]I really hope you haters never go into business cause yall sure as **** would go bankrupt. The first thing you ever learn in economics is that you go into to business to make a PROFIT. That is your number one goal. Seriously you haters sound so pathetic. If yall really think the Wii is a ripoff, then I guess you think almost everything you buy is a ripoff. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your HDTVs was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your shoes and clothes was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture them. You do not normally go into business to lose billions of dollars. Do you get the point? peaceful_anger

Haters?  I'm a consumer, first and foremost.  I like to know a company is busting its butt to offer me the best quality product, at the lowest possible price, while paying the highest possible prices to its employees.  The Wii is all about exploiting people to sell an antiquated, inferior, and lame product that relies heavily on worthless franchise tags and the "family friendly" audience to make a dollar.

The Wii is offering the worst hardware on the market, at a ridiculous price, and making a profit off consumers who are wound up in nostalgia, utilizing low standards to judge games, or considering games as little more than a childish plaything.  The fact someone could say, "THIS IS NP, LOLOL" disgusts me.  It is an example of how deluded, backward, and strange this industry has become.  We should all be unified against something as vile, pathetic, and disgusting as price-gouging customers. 

Don't buy this garbage.

Stop thinking how this industry wants you to think.  Both companies are doing bad things.  Acknowledge the flaws of both.  MS is almost as bad, although not as dangeous to the future of gaming, as Nintendo is when it comes to ripping off consumers. 

Wow, have we forgotten what Capitalism is?  If people are willing to pay $40 for something then you charge that!  See those Nikes on your feet?  Probably cost a dollar to make yet you paid 60 for em. 

Lets use all 2 of our brain cells... oh wait this is system wars. 

cametall

Wow, have we forgotten what being an intelligent  consumer means?  Forgive people for not standing up and screaming, "OH GOD!  I LOVE YOU MARIO AND ZELDA! SO MUCH SO, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE PLAYED FOUR GENERATIONS WORTH OF YOUR POINTLESS, CLICHE, AND REPTITIVE GAMES, THAT I NO LONGER CARE THAT YOU ARE ARTIFICALLY INFLATING THE PRICE OF YOUR PRODUCTS!!"  Ripping off customers is not a virture, nor is it something a rational person should praise.

Don't you love when people cite an idea that is as self-serving, primitive, and backwards as capitalism to justify a wrong that is being done to consumers, and then go so far as to say, "well, it isn't wrong," to justify their support in a console that is clearly working against the intrests of consumers in this industry?